Catzsys post isnt exactly encouraging management saying they treat staff unfairly :rolleyes:
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Catzsys post isnt exactly encouraging management saying they treat staff unfairly :rolleyes:
However, it may be Habbox's decision but surely they should exercise that with every staff member?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
Many staff have been fired for being inactive for just a week or so, so perhaps it should apply to this member of staff aswell?
Sierk doesn't fire people whom are high up and abuse powers, 8Freak8 was a lier and he didn't get fired?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
A code should be drawn up about treatment of staff, and rules that apply to staff need to apply to management. Sierk needs to have more power to be honest, otherwise Habbox will continue to go downhill.
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Oh dear I am never going to sleep at night now ;)
Galaxay you change your mind in every post and I waiting for the announcement that you have officially been appointed PA to Mr. Mad.
Sierk does not deal with the hiring and firing so he probably doesn't even know what's going on. All I do know though is that Sierk is very well regarded and is very keen to make sure staff are treated fairly and its seems that it is being ignored and the animal farm principle rules. 'All staff are equal except some are more equal than others' especially in this case
What people give as their official resignation reason and what they actually say they have resigned for is very different - any person knows that. Its what lies below the surface that counts.
You are an authority in some areas but thats more to do with rule breaking and bans I think. You do know more about that subject than I do ;)
Yes, most people do have a life. The difference is, those people with a life still manage to come on once every couple of days at least. 3 months and a couple of days are quite different. That argument is null anyway, if people's lives are so busy that they don't have time for Habbox any more, they should resign anyway so someone else who has more time can take their position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthquake
I've already questioned this point:Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
"Less active is a little bit of an understatement? There is no way you can say he is there for backup when he doesn't come on! Lets say Adzeh and PrtScrn go away on holiday at the same time - you PM Shabbs asking for him to cover them while they're away. Great. Sorted.
But wait! He hasn't been online in 3 months, he's not going to get that PM?! If you have an alternative contact for him, then fine and I am wrong. If you don't, this is ridiculous."
http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost....4&postcount=40
Thats why they'll have his msn or phone number :rolleyes:
Yes, but do they? No one has said they have, so we can't guarantee that they do. Maybe they do have his MSN (the more likely of the two) and maybe they can email him, but who is to say that he just doesn't bother coming online any more? He won't get the email then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
No offence but you're not the person I want to answer my questions, as anyone can answer in the way you answer - even I've contemplated the same thing, as you can see in my other post. However for a definitive answer, someone like MAD or Adzeh needs to reply, that's who I am waiting for and then this issue can be wrapped up.
Then perhaps you should pm management instead of making a thread, as making a thread gives me the right to reply to it where as PMing management i cant reply. ;)
Garion is not saying you shouldn't reply he is saying that you really don'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
possess the experience or expertise or authority to make a statement on behalf of Habbox - that's what he wants. Sending a pm also means that he quite possibly he won't have a reply;)
I am not saying I don't want you to reply, the fact I posted it publicly is so the issue can be debated openly. I think actually letting everyone know about a problem is more effective than keeping it quiet, as things rarely happen in that situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
What I am saying however, is that your replies are pretty pointless - as I've already recognised that they may have his MSN etc. However you don't know if they do, also you don't know if he bothers to check his email. MAD or Adzeh on the other hand probably do, so for this particular question, I am looking for them to answer - feel free to try to answer it yourself, but technically there is little point, because although you act that you know everything about Habbox simply because you are friendly with MAD, you don't.
Anyway, I am not getting drawn into an argument.
Edit - well said Catzsy (:
Somewhat more likely to get a reply via PM as they wont have as many PMs as there are new threads. ;)
I dont act as if i know everything because im friendly with MAD? Rofl.
You're joking, right? They get tonnes of PMs... besides I've already established why I didn't do it in a PM, I did so in my very first post in fact. I find posting threads more effective; causing controversy means things get done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
Have you ever checked the amount of threads made? :rolleyes: Nvr gets about 1000PMs a week? (according to him in staff forums :P) theres thousands of 'New posts' ;)
Sorry but I am sure Mad has a lot more pms than threads in Habbox FeedbackQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
asking him to reply:S- Hmm he is the GM. A person can ignore a PM. They are less likely (although in some cases not) to ignore a thread asking them a question in the public forum. Personally I don't think there will be an answer because there is no reasonable response to what Garion has pointed out except to admit a mistake has been made or to say we 'should know our place'. :)
As said before they're obviously keeping him on for a reason otherwise they would have fired him?
I was talking about threads in Habbox Feedback - there is no need for MAD or nvr or Adzeh to check every single thread posted on the Forum :rolleyes:. MAD always used to tell me that he would deal with PMs, posts in staff Forums and Habbox feedback. He also told me he had all other categories collapsed most of the time so he could deal with the priority situations first (it's a good idea, I think). So clearly, MAD thinks threads in Habbox Feedback are important. More important than the thread in the Spam Forum saying "HELLO LOLZ!!" anyway ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
You never stated Habbox Feedback forum so how was i to know ;)
imo it would be so much easier and probably end this thread if mad or whoever mentioned how they contact that person since he is inactive on this forum. if there were other methods then so be it, but if the only method of communication with is via pm then its just plain stupid as how do they know he will even come back to this forum, unless he has told admins that he will be off for a period of time.
^ if thats already been mentioned then soz, but im not going through 9 pages :)
Well I considered it pretty obvious, apparently Catzsy did also. Simple minds need further explanation though, I suppose. Anyway, I am going to wait for someone who knows what they are talking about to reply now, as this debate is getting pointless and off-topic :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxay
I find it humerous how Habbox give permanent job positions when in reality you rarely ever get them and I bet half those people with permanent jobs really do not need them. Give them a new user group which makes them have limited access to the Staff Forums, not waste a position on someone who won't use it. It just shows tacky management skills "/
How cheerful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny (:
There's a special usergroup for the "permanant staff". I believe this is something different, but I couldn't give you details since I'm not involved with this particular case.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Stop the arguing please or I'll have to close the thread.
http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=313 is a RVR and hasn't been on since June, there not a manager or assistant, so yeah? ..
Just looks like the Managers haven't kept track of their staff and checked for inactivity which personally the whole thing boils down to in my opinion but nobody will just say this is what has happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny (:
galaxay, your starting to **** me off.
let the people who will have an influence to what happens with Shabbs reply instead of you sticking your nose up managements *** and trying to take control of the situation
Couldn't agree more. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by harry!
Add me to ignore list then, simple enough. ;)
Doraemonkiller was an ex AGM (at that time ASM) and RVM, he keeps his permissions to pop in and visit, not to actually work the job. Others such as Properclone, Smiddy, 8F8 also keep a staff UG just so they can see the staff forums when they visit. Dora is not a working RVR, he just retains access for when he wants to pop by as thanks for all the work he did :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny (:
Shouldn't they just go under a new usergroup or something? If that's possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by nvrspk4
#Quote:
Originally Posted by harry!
It is possible.
SOMEONE (ADZEH / MAD) ANSWER MY QUESTION PLS. ty.
whos dora!?!
Doraemonkiller or whatever, was assistant site manager and RVM (as far as im aware)
Didn't realize they was ex agm- I guess it's understandable then with that person :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nvrspk4
He did use to have (Ex. Assistant Site Manager (Rare Values) as his usertitle.
I don't know if there is a proper usergroup, but maybe one should be made?
We do have a special usergroup, we put them in the "Habbox Staff" usergroup. However, as I said, we wanted Dora to have special access to the RV forums, due to the large part he played in shaping that department, whereas people such as Properclone didn't really need access to the RV forum, hence why it was much simpler to just give Dora the RVR Group as well.
Danny (: > No worries, you had no way of knowing.
So why can't you tinker with that user group and amke them see the staff chat forums? They don't need full permissions, there is no reason for it. All they need is an "Ex-Staff Member" title, not a full title they don't use. It's like allowing a person who was Assistant Manager at Pizza Hut to keep that title when they quit a year ago "/ Doesn't show good management, does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by nvrspk4
I believe the same is with 8Freak8, I believe he quit months ago, yet he still has that title "/ Give him the member title "Ex-Assistant Manager" rather than the official, proper title because it will cause confusion. Yes he did do alot of work for Habbox, buthe isn't an assistant manager anymore, so why keep him with a title he doesn't use anymore?!
I haven't seen a proper reason as to why these members need to keep their titles? Make a new user group, give them a title, give them permissions to a forum they need. Not permissions to a forum they really do not need to see when their knowledge of trading has changed since they were a manager.
Ok people I can't be bothered to read through every post as the majority of them are flaming somebody and I genuinely don't have the energy to see why people are being flamed.
Yes inactivity is frowned upon at Habbox, however if a staff member provides a legitimate reason for being inactive, then we are perfectly happy to accept that reason. In fairness, for all you guys know, there could be a perfectly valid reason why particular, inactive staff members, are still with us. For instance, 8Freak8 is no longer active, however he is still kept on the team for a specific reason.
Its perfectly fine to bring something like this up, but for those of you who have just come out with "hah, Habbox r idiots coz they fire inactive staff but keep inactive managerz" then I have no time for you :).
Whether there is a legitimate reason for Shabb's inactivity is between himself and senior management, and I should hope that I have stopped any doubt of his worth and efforts for Habbox.
A reason which is no valid because he is no longer works for Habbox "/Quote:
Originally Posted by Adzeh
Thus, I think he needs to be scrapped of his position, and given a special user group which allows him to view the staff forums and a member title stating he is not an assistant general manager. He isn't doing the job, so why make it out as if he is "/
Where is the logic? There is no reason to keep someone on a team when they're not on it "/
I worked with Shabbs and you for a long time, and I respect him a lot and I am not flaming him. I just wanted to know whether there was a valid reason for his long-time absence and whether you do have other means of contacting him should you need him. If that is the case, then it's fair enough but so far the answers that have been given have been empty or avoiding the main point...Quote:
Originally Posted by Adzeh
Yes I can contact him if I need him as he is on MSN quite frequently, it has been suggested before about how Shabbs could possibly be described as a back up for myself and Robald should we need him, and that is exactly what happens.
If we ask Shabbs to do a specific job for us, then he does it no problem.
And for the record GommeInc, Shabbs is not an Assistant General Manager :D, he is a assistant department manager.
I apologise for any pointless answers I may have given.
Any other questions?
I was talking about 8Freak8 :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Adzeh
Shabbs hasn't official left, so I don't really see a point of caring about him.
None now, you've answered the question that I wanted answered. Thread closed. Thanks :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Adzeh