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We study Information and Technology (IT) but it is not required to graduate and we are not tested on it.
It is elective courses that are optional.
Interactive CD's
This means you need even more staff to develop the software on these cd's, as well as a full team to solve problems.
You would need desktop programmers (C#, C++, C, etc) to develop the software, or Lingo developer for Kiosks.
Which would cause even more problems, as you would have to debug it on a variety of machines and system setups.
Which makes it even more challenging because you need to develop a web API to communicate with these interactive cd's so they can login and interact with their web account.
I just don't see it working.
In the United Kingdom, it is also a choice to study IT/ICT. We arn't comparing to schools, this is an extra-outside-school development program.
We have not released any details of what will be on the CDs, therefore you can not say what will be needed. The CD image burning software and hardware has already been bought. Also at no point did we say the CDs will be interactive with the website :). More details are to follow on from this, however we plan to release CDs in early 2009.
you will NOT be ready by September. If you want to offer actual qualifications then you will have to go through a whole lot to get the paper work and I'm sure a company like ofsted will have to see if its upto scratch. You have to have the whole site up and by the looks of it its about a years work. Set a more realistic target than 3 months away. You'd going to have to put a lot of money in for the games and design and coding and no one is going to work for 10% of the profits unlike your friend (as you may have noticed in previous projects)
It doesn't matter if the courses are the same/same name. America does not really
recognise gcses, my friend has had to take the SATs to gain a place at university
Big whoop, you bought a CD burner.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
I found one that can burn 30 at a time for $20 at a trade lot. That means nothing, if it looks like ****.. and is boring.. then no one wants it.
It also needs to be interactive and dynamic with the website.. you make something that includes a major bug.. and you have burned 60 of them, that is 60 wasted CDs.
As stated, it is an in-house qualification, and not a registered approved qualifcation. We will be helping to develop a CV builder, and this will be like a reference qualifcation, from us. E.g more of a reference than a qualification,
We will be doing a softrun in September 2008, with atleast one system working and then run from there as a BETA, and develop the future systems. Matt is a joint owner in this project and owns 49.9%.
I hope no-one gets confused and thinks that I half own it.
Listen darren, something like this takes a long time to develope and releasing a finished product is better than a product thats sorta there but we couldnt wait to release.
If we feel that the system is not to standards, we can put the system release back.
so how do you plan to pay people that make the system? You cannot give up your shares in the business as you wouldn't be the owner anymore. Anyway, the share % means nothing if it fails or makes no profit
The system builder, Matt has rarely, accepted 49.9% of DevelopTomorrow as he believes he will make enough profit to cover his development costs.
How are you earning money off this?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
How much funding is inputted?
CD Mass printing costs:
£1500-£3000
CD Mass Printing is not expensive, if you do it in your house, 1 at a time :)
No money really needs to be put into this project, apart from advertisements.
Wow, sounds like an awesome project. I'll be interesting in learning a little more about computers. Good luck darren :)
I seriously can't see this project even going further than a "buisness plan" created in a word document. There are several downfalls which you will find very difficult to overcome.
First of all, there are already plenty of courses about with professional creditation all over the world by huge companies. For example the Zend Certification Certificate and Microsoft. You say in your document "In-house qualification", this is no good. What is the point in having a qualifcation which is only in-house. That is like going to school, passing an exam and being told "oh by the way you can't use these to apply for a job" - Pointless
Interactive CD's - A walk through the city centre or a quick search online and you will already find hundreds if not thousands of CD's out there.
Job Search - There are already massive job gateways online:
JobCentrePlus (UK Only) - http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/index.html
RentACoder (Worldwide) - http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/default.asp
GetAFreeLancer (Worldwide) - http://www.getafreelancer.com/
Employees - If this were to be a success and to get decent employees in to do the "jobs" you will need a lot of funding. Based on current buisness rates per annum:
Website Developer (PHP, HTML, MySql, Flash) - £20-25k
Actionscript Flash Game Developer - £20-25k
Database Administrator/Builder - £20-25k
Legal Representative - £25-30k
Marketing Executive - £30k
Web Content Designer (Web 2.0 Themes) - £15-20k
Community Developer - £20k
Social Networking Application Developer - £15-20k
TOTAL: £165,000
Most of the big web design companies now a days do not accept applications with just experience. They require a degree in the field or a degree with relevant modules. Accreditation in other items is just a *small* advantage.
In order to gather proper accreditation within the UK alone you must get approval from the British Accreditation Council. Note - This is UK Only and not World Wide.
To have a successful program you need excellent content, do you have anyone who is experienced in writing professional content for learning or looked into it, e.g. consulting trainned personnel - Lecturers
Looking at the market trends from http://www.learnframe.com/aboutelear...rningfacts.pdf
This is a very competitve market to go into, the market is worth $2 trillion.
As pointed out in that document:
Huge companies are already getting in on the act. The public are more likely to go to a huge company offering a course rather than a small learning site.Quote:
Many giants in the technology world are investing in and providing advanced products for
and services tailored to the learning market. These companies, which are expected to make
great inroads into e-Learning, include AOL, Yahoo, Microsoft, IBM, AT&T, Sun Microsystems,
Oracle, and Harcourt.
But if you wish to continue with it, I wish you good luck :)
& Blank CDs with decent space £15 per 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
You'll be producing around what 3,000? More?
3,000 x 10 = £30,000
Fo shizzle thats owned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baving
You only get a total of £165,000 if you go to companies. My website developer has cost me nothing, and I will be able to pick up a flash developer very cheaply. Community director will work for free, social networking developer - will find someone with some free time, marketing - again someone for free.
I see your points, however there is inner and outer markets. People like microsoft are always going to get more people than the smaller businesses, however without the smaller businesses, there would be no choice.
EDIT: No idea what you are speaking about :S http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50-RIDISC-LIGH...QQcmdZViewItem
So, a 10 pack of decent CDs, £15, you'll want to make about 3,000 at first.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
3,000 x 15 = £45,000
Fo shizzle thats owned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baving
Don't argue with him, he knows at least 100x what you imagine that you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
David Tennant <3Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
You're just asking for trouble if you want me to be totally honest...Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
Okay, my honest views. Like nearly everyone else on the forum I don't think it will work considering the numerous other threads on this and such; but when you have your mass CDs or whatever in September 2008 going around the country or worldwide or whatever your market is then PLEASE come back here and rub it in our faces...Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
Why do I think it won't work? Well, Splur Studios? I haven't seen that in awhile... 'MMOCCMonthly' or whatever that was... Some magazine thing? SuerteHeights? I think that was to do with you... I haven't seen that since...
If you want me to be totally honest, I'm surprised you're still here on this forum. I mean, back in the day you had numerous hate threads back when you were Woodrlly and Write-It and whatother account names you had... And in my opinion you have a bad reputation on these forums.
You need to find somewhere new... You may have matured and might be serious about these business proposals and so forth but this forum knows you too well and you'd be lucky to get anyone to help.
Good luck anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
Stock will run out, and you trust it over eBay? :rolleyes:
I won't be ordering CD's knowing you got them off ebay, anything could be on them!
Edited by SyrupyMonkey (Forum Moderator): Posts merged, forum error.
Kardan, SplurStudios, MMOCCMonthly and Suerte Heights were all failures, well I did manage to sell Suerte. This because they were going no where - this has the potential to do so.
I know people tell me that I should not come back to these forums due to past events, however surely people have the maturity to move on?
The CDs will be blank...and then we place our data on there and our lightscribe image.
What I can remember you always said they were a great success, SplurStudios etc that is. How do you even aim to market this product(s) of yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
We have moved on, but you keep coming back, with these projects, assuring us they'll succeed which end up dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenToogood
It's you who should move on.