Opt in/Opt out swear filter

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Originally Posted by Eoin247

I'm guessing the first part was directed at me considering i was the only one who posted reasons since your last post. Read that post a bit more carefully and i hope you'll understand better what i meant.

The part in bold was quite funny i thought. Sure would be kinda hard to find them since they quit and aint here...

Most people just leave without giving reasons, but i can guarantee you that the No. 1 reason that people leave is that they feel they have outgrown the forum. Like it or not, making the option to turn on/off the filter (or at least part of it) makes the forum feel less like a kids forum to these people while giving other members just as much filtered things as there are now .

In fact that was the reason habbo brought in the optional filter wasn't it? They said that they realised that they now had a group of people who are older than their original target area and so were going to act appropriately. Not long after, the optional filter came in. Habbox is a habbo fansite that now has a group of people that are also older than the original targetbase.

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Why do you need to try and act smart? "They aren't here to ask why they left" - I am sorry, but if anyone leaves because of a swear filter I personally could not give a damn - anyone who feels like a child because they can't see "the f word" needs to jump in to reality, and grow up.

YAY someone else bringing up the "HABBO HAVE AN OPTIONAL FILTER" - not on their forums they don't. Ooooooh loving my post count going up from repeating myself in this thread :D

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Originally Posted by Milestone

Why do you need to try and act smart? "They aren't here to ask why they left" - I am sorry, but if anyone leaves because of a swear filter I personally could not give a damn - anyone who feels like a child because they can't see "the f word" needs to jump in to reality, and grow up.

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Says the person who gets information from seemingly nowhere and then tries to use it as an attack on somebodies posts (yeah i am bringing the other thread into this one, exactly what you did with the other thread). Before you acuse others of trying to be smartarses, look at what you post. At least what i said in my post made sense as compared to that post you made about awards.


With regards to catzs post. Fair enough if people dont want it. However it seems that there are a sizeable amount of people that do want it. Just look at this thread constantly coming up and the people that have wanted it, and thats just the people that voice their opinion on this matter.

That said. It's not too big of a deal for me. I believe it should be introduced for the reasons i gave, but if its not it really wont affect me much.

There's nothing wrong with the word filter. No-one needs to see the F word littered in every nook and cranny. The only time you would ever need to get rid of it is if it impedes on conversation and discussion, and the last time I checked you do not need to say any of these words :/

yay my valid point about habbo not having an optional filter on their forums gets ignored again by those in favour of this :D

I agree with Gomme.

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

It's a feature wanted by a few people who feel the need to swear in every post

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I want this feature and I don't feel the need to swear in every post. There goes your argument right there!

Swearing can add emphasis no words that people on this forum would understand could, including (I'd imagine) most of the staffers. It's not exactly like this forum is smart by any measure so you can't exactly fall back on the "some people might understand it", because they wont.

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Originally Posted by Agnostic Bear

I want this feature and I don't feel the need to swear in every post. There goes your argument right there!

Swearing can add emphasis no words that people on this forum would understand could, including (I'd imagine) most of the staffers. It's not exactly like this forum is smart by any measure so you can't exactly fall back on the "some people might understand it", because they wont.

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The people on this forum are capable of speaking and understanding English and can substitute other words for these swear words. Your argument is extremely stoopid.

It would benefit Habbox in some ways I suppose, but I agree with what David says; there are substitute words even though sometimes you get in trouble for avoiding the filter etc. etc.

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

YAY someone else bringing up the "HABBO HAVE AN OPTIONAL FILTER" - not on their forums they don't. Ooooooh loving my post count going up from repeating myself in this thread :D

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That's just what I was thinking. :P

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Originally Posted by Eoin247

Says the person who gets information from seemingly nowhere and then tries to use it as an attack on somebodies posts (yeah i am bringing the other thread into this one, exactly what you did with the other thread). Before you acuse others of trying to be smartarses, look at what you post. At least what i said in my post made sense as compared to that post you made about awards.


With regards to catzs post. Fair enough if people dont want it. However it seems that there are a sizeable amount of people that do want it. Just look at this thread constantly coming up and the people that have wanted it, and thats just the people that voice their opinion on this matter.

That said. It's not too big of a deal for me. I believe it should be introduced for the reasons i gave, but if its not it really wont affect me much.

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But there is not a sizeable number of members that do want it compared to the size of the forum. I would guess that more members do not in this thread. Normally if members actually 'want' something they take the time to post. :P :)

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

yay my valid point about habbo not having an optional filter on their forums gets ignored again by those in favour of this :D

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Just like how you ignored my valid points about how certain members of management were conducting themselves a few months back. Kinda ironic as it's actualy related to this in a way.

But now i will answer your point. It's pretty obvious that habbo is primarily client. Habboxforum is primarily... well a forum. Barely anybody on habbo.com uses the forums in groups, whilst everybody on habboxforum uses the forum because that's all it is. It's obvious that habbo don't pay any attention to these group forums. The evidence in that is that they are the exact same as they were when they were first introduced years ago.

The habbo.com forums are extremely poor. They have very few options and as i said have never been updated not even when the filter was introduced. Habbo concentrate on their client, just as habboxforum concentrate on the forum.

All these updated client features (client chat, client messages) allows the optional filter. You'll probably see the optional filter introduced to the group forums once they are eventualy given an update.

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Originally Posted by Eoin247

Just like how you ignored my valid points about how certain members of management were conducting themselves a few months back. Kinda ironic as it's actualy related to this in a way.

But now i will answer your point. It's pretty obvious that habbo is primarily client. Habboxforum is primarily... well a forum. Barely anybody on habbo.com uses the forums in groups, whilst everybody on habboxforum uses the forum because that's all it is. It's obvious that habbo don't pay any attention to these group forums. The evidence in that is that they are the exact same as they were when they were first introduced years ago.

The habbo.com forums are extremely poor. They have very few options and as i said have never been updated not even when the filter was introduced. Habbo concentrate on their client, just as habboxforum concentrate on the forum.

All these updated client features (client chat, client messages) allows the optional filter. You'll probably see the optional filter introduced to the group forums once they are eventualy given an update.

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I doubt that very much, they still have a forced filter on the chat system and minimail system too, both of which have recieved numerous updates over the past year.

I spoke with bucho6 about the reasoning he thought was behind this when he made an appearance at Habbox in 2009, he had noticed a filter thread in our feedback forum and brought it up that Habbo kept the filter on their forums for the same reasons we echo in this feedback forum every time this thread comes up, the fact that with swearing (or ******) everywhere it looks very messy and unprofessional - you may cry out that we're a Habbo fansite and we don't need to be professional but may I remind you that Sulake constantly remind fansites that as they are "approved" by Sulake we must be professional to a certain standard or they will remove us from the fansite list.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any other official fansite has an optional filter, they may have more lenient filters but not an optional filter - this is for a reason.

I will once again bring up the point that our filter is also used for security purposes, therefore making it optional would be putting some users at risk.

It's not going to change, my mind is made up as is that of every other official here at Habbox.

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Originally Posted by Ouft

It would benefit Habbox in some ways I suppose, but I agree with what David says; there are substitute words even though sometimes you get in trouble for avoiding the filter etc. etc.

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Not if you don't say the word you don't.

Obviously if you say the f work without the c you will be told off.

But if you say 'oh for flip sake' you won't get punished.

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Originally Posted by Moh

Wont work, as I'm sure the words are filtered out in the database and not when they're displayed.

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Did anybody read this?

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Originally Posted by Moh

Did anybody read this?

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Not sure what oyu meant.

Do you mean you can't have the option, as they are either there or they are filtered?

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Originally Posted by Moh

Did anybody read this?

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Of course not, just like they didn't read all the other valid arguments against it.

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Originally Posted by Milestone

Not sure what oyu meant.

Do you mean you can't have the option, as they are either there or they are filtered?

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That's correct. If they turned the filter off, the words that have already been filtered will remain filtered. You can't unreverse the filter, so an option wouldn't make any difference. I tried it on HabbCrazy and ran into this problem :P No way around it without a fair bit of recoding and it'll use more server resources.

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

I doubt that very much, they still have a forced filter on the chat system and minimail system too, both of which have recieved numerous updates over the past year.

I spoke with bucho6 about the reasoning he thought was behind this when he made an appearance at Habbox in 2009, he had noticed a filter thread in our feedback forum and brought it up that Habbo kept the filter on their forums for the same reasons we echo in this feedback forum every time this thread comes up, the fact that with swearing (or ******) everywhere it looks very messy and unprofessional - you may cry out that we're a Habbo fansite and we don't need to be professional but may I remind you that Sulake constantly remind fansites that as they are "approved" by Sulake we must be professional to a certain standard or they will remove us from the fansite list.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any other official fansite has an optional filter, they may have more lenient filters but not an optional filter - this is for a reason.

I will once again bring up the point that our filter is also used for security purposes, therefore making it optional would be putting some users at risk.

It's not going to change, my mind is made up as is that of every other official here at Habbox.

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Now why didn't you say that in the first place? Had you said that habbo staff actualy told you this it would have stopped the thread dead in its tracks.

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Originally Posted by Moh

Did anybody read this?

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

Of course not, just like they didn't read all the other valid arguments against it.

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lol. If what he said is true Oli then it's impossible to have an optional filter in the first place.

So if it really is impossible to have an optional filter, why didn't you just say that?

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Originally Posted by Eoin247

lol. If what he said is true Oli then it's impossible to have an optional filter in the first place.

So if it really is impossible to have an optional filter, why didn't you just say that?

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The logistics of things really only get looked into when its actually going to be considered. Seeing as (quite rightly) it was never going to be considered, I doubt he would have spent time looking into the plausibility of it all and probably didn't know the technicalities that may arise. Hence not being able to say that in the first place. I imagine thats right anyway.

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Originally Posted by Sammeth.

The logistics of things really only get looked into when its actually going to be considered. Seeing as (quite rightly) it was never going to be considered, I doubt he would have spent time looking into the plausibility of it all and probably didn't know the technicalities that may arise. Hence not being able to say that in the first place. I imagine thats right anyway.

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Sammeth. be right.

And I did mention that I think Habbo filter their forums for the same reason as us, but couldn't remember the conversation exactly as it was 2 years ago, which is why I posted it after checking this morning - I have more important things to do at the moment (such as revise for exams) than back up points in threads about something which isn't going to happen and many reasons have been given why :P