Can moderating just stay as it is

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

I agree with you about the useful information but surely it would be enforced if I directly went 'OH YOU BROKE RULE A#' surely?

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there we go.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Best get reporting those warnings/infractions! Totally legal! WTF!

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Well I said f off, IS THAT ALLOWED??? Can someone tell me @xxMATTGxx;

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

I agree with you about the useful information but surely it would be enforced if I directly went 'OH YOU BROKE RULE A#' surely?

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I added a bit to the end of my post but you got to it too quickly apparently :P

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Originally Posted by Lee

But then people are free to say dont be rude -ontopic part here- which could lead to arguments hence the origin for that particular rule I think.

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'Don't be rude' doesn't break any rules.

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Originally Posted by Catchy

Well I said f off, IS THAT ALLOWED??? Can someone tell me @xxMATTGxx;

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If you said it directly to someone then yes, if not then I don't think so. Like you could say that when you lose an event or something? Wouldn't be rude to anyone. That's always what I've followed/been told.

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Originally Posted by Catchy

Well I said f off, IS THAT ALLOWED??? Can someone tell me @xxMATTGxx;

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If its directed to a forum member, no - otherwise yes.

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Originally Posted by Catchy

Well I said f off, IS THAT ALLOWED??? Can someone tell me @xxMATTGxx;

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I don't believe that is one of the exceptions.

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Originally Posted by Catchy

Well I said f off, IS THAT ALLOWED??? Can someone tell me @xxMATTGxx;

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No it is not allowed it's rude, avoids the filter and it not an abbreviation. FO is the abbreviation but would still be rude.

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Originally Posted by Lee

No it is not allowed it's rude, avoids the filter and it not an abbreviation. FO is the abbreviation but would still be rude.

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...*Sigh*

It is allowed.

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F off, I just won £170 on the lotto!

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Originally Posted by Lee

But then people are free to say dont be rude -ontopic part here- which could lead to arguments hence the origin for that particular rule I think.

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Isn't saying "don't patronise me" also telling a user not to be rude? I don't think telling somebody to use manners is attempting to impersonate a moderator. There's an obvious distinction between someone correcting someone and someone impersonating a moderator, for example:

A) Don't be so rude...
B) You must respect other users rules a32 says:

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Originally Posted by Lee

No it is not allowed it's rude, avoids the filter and it not an abbreviation. FO is the abbreviation but would still be rude.

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Pretty sure F is an abbreviation

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Originally Posted by Kardan

'Don't be rude' doesn't break any rules.

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I mean if theres a rude comment towards another then someone else comments saying dont be rude to others.

Sorry should have been more specific.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

If its directed to a forum member, no - otherwise yes.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

I don't believe that is one of the exceptions.

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Originally Posted by Lee

No it is not allowed it's rude, avoids the filter and it not an abbreviation. FO is the abbreviation but would still be rude.

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What about if it was in a joke context though...

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Originally Posted by Lee

No it is not allowed it's rude, avoids the filter and it not an abbreviation. FO is the abbreviation but would still be rude.

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Depends in context really?

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Pretty sure F is an abbreviation

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I may have got the wrong idea then :)

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Originally Posted by Lee

But then people are free to say dont be rude -ontopic part here- which could lead to arguments hence the origin for that particular rule I think.

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I don't see too much of a problem in saying 'don't be rude -on topic part here-' to be honest. What's wrong with saying don't be rude?

If you were to say 'That's really rude and I'm gonna report you straight to a moderator and I hope you get banned for ever' then maybe that's a rule-breaker but a simple 'don't be rude' is hardly bad.

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Originally Posted by Catchy

What about if it was in a joke context though...

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That's when it gets hard for moderators to determine whether something like that is a joke or not.

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Originally Posted by The Don

Isn't saying "don't patronise me" also telling a user not to be rude? I don't think telling somebody to use manners is attempting to impersonate a moderator. There's an obvious distinction between someone correcting someone and someone impersonating a moderator, for example:

A) Don't be so rude...
B) You must respect other users rules a32 says:

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Would Matt telling Lee to 'use his brain' be rude though? I know it's not that major or anything but it could be borderline.

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Depends in context really?

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Yeah if she/he goes theres a fly in my room f off then.. Personally I wouldn't want to see f off since its soo obvious. I'd class that as avoiding the filter.

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Originally Posted by Catchy

What about if it was in a joke context though...

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Once again, common sense should prevail, usually it's pretty clear if the post is offensive - but the moderators will probably act on it.

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Originally Posted by The Don

Isn't saying "don't patronise me" also telling a user not to be rude? I don't think telling somebody to use manners is attempting to impersonate a moderator. There's an obvious distinction between someone correcting someone and someone impersonating a moderator, for example:

A) Don't be so rude...
B) You must respect other users rules a32 says:

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Woops looks like I was trying to moderate a moderator

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Would Matt telling Lee to 'use his brain' be rude though? I know it's not that major or anything but it could be borderline.

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Nowhere near as rude as Oli telling people to "piss off" back in the day. But I don't see how that relates to someone impersonating a moderator lol

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Originally Posted by Matts

I don't see too much of a problem in saying 'don't be rude -on topic part here-' to be honest. What's wrong with saying don't be rude?

If you were to say 'That's really rude and I'm gonna report you straight to a moderator and I hope you get banned for ever' then maybe that's a rule-breaker but a simple 'don't be rude' is hardly bad.

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I think if they said don't be rude, it should be fine providing they post on topic. If they went don't be rude you ******* ****, then that would be hypocritical.

Gotta love @Richie;'s feedback threads :) anyways, it was deffo in a jokey context and in spam lmao but oh well...

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Originally Posted by The Don

Isn't saying "don't patronise me" also telling a user not to be rude? I don't think telling somebody to use manners is attempting to impersonate a moderator. There's an obvious distinction between someone correcting someone and someone impersonating a moderator, for example:

A) Don't be so rude...
B) You must respect other users rules a32 says:

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Personally I feel that option B still isn't impersonating a moderator, it's just a bit snotty and not needed :P The only way you can really impersonate a moderator, and I've never seen it happen in a real context in my 8 years here, is by using the red text thingy.

Epic thread by the way, not seen so much activity on one thread in months!

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

I think if they said don't be rude, it should be fine providing they post on topic. If they went don't be rude you ******* ****, then that would be hypocritical.

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Yeah, as long as the post is on topic then its fine IMO.

And yeah obviously if they said "Don't be rude you stupid ******* loser" or whatever then yeah that's clearly breaking a rule (however IMO there's nothing wrong with the don't be rude bit- its the other bit thats in the wrong and would be edited for rudeness).

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Would Matt telling Lee to 'use his brain' be rude though? I know it's not that major or anything but it could be borderline.

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Probably, depends how people felt.

I don't think any1 would be so sad enough to copy and paste the rules tbh. Never know though...

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Probably, depends how people felt.

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Are you openly admitting you've probably broken the rules :(

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Originally Posted by The Don

Nowhere near as rude as Oli telling people to "piss off" back in the day. But I don't see how that relates to someone impersonating a moderator lol

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True, unless they were rude when telling them they broke a rule. I remember a while back I -repped someone for posting in the wrong section as opposed to telling them.

That's a thing, if you -repped someone for breaking a rule/telling them they broke a rule, and gave the rule broken would that be moderated or am I overthinking it?

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Would Matt telling Lee to 'use his brain' be rude though? I know it's not that major or anything but it could be borderline.

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No because that would be ridiculous. We're trying to relax the rules.

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Originally Posted by Catchy

I don't think any1 would be so sad enough to copy and paste the rules tbh. Never know though...

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Me and @Kardan; did not so long ago in this thread... -awkward-

It just doesn't seem like mods are using their trusty tool 'discretion' very often anymore.

I think it's a little obvious to spot what right and wrong is:

Don't be rude
-Inserts massive opinion here-


Don't be rude
-Leaves blank empty gap for moderators edit-


If it's spam and someone replies 'Don't be so rude!!!' you can tell they're joking so it should be left alone but if someone makes a massive rant in discuss anything and it's a serious thread, then some ejit comes along and says Don't be rude -Leaves back empty gap for moderators edit- then it should be edited.

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Originally Posted by Catchy

I don't think any1 would be so sad enough to copy and paste the rules tbh. Never know though...

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Another fansite stole HabboxForum's rules so it wouldn't surprise me ;).

Anyway, think context depends on what gets moderated or not, maybe a simpler version of the rule as a lot appear unsure what is correct or not.

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Originally Posted by Lee

Me and @Kardan; did not so long ago in this thread... -awkward-

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o... that's 1 of them 1s lmao. You know what I mean!!

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Originally Posted by Lee

Me and @Kardan; did not so long ago in this thread... -awkward-

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He means in a context of impersonating a moderator.

And no, whatMatt said isn't offensive. I mean, if moderators have to take offensive sentences into context, then why can't they take jokes into context?

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Originally Posted by Lee

Are you openly admitting you've probably broken the rules :(

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Well no I don't think I've broken any forum rules in this thread. Some people may find it rude, others may not. If people have that much of a problem with the post then I'll simply write a PM to myself telling me off.

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Originally Posted by Chris

No because that would be ridiculous. We're trying to relax the rules.

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However, as said before in previous threads if Lee wished to report that wouldn't it have to be sorted? I thought that occurred if the person it was aimed at took offence, or has that changed too?

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Well no I don't think I've broken any forum rules in this thread. Some people may find it rude, others may not. If people have that much of a problem with the post then I'll simply write a PM to myself telling me off.

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Nah I'll tell Sierk about you, he'll warn you in a year or two.

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

However, as said before in previous threads if Lee wished to report that wouldn't it have to be sorted? I thought that occurred if the person it was aimed at took offence, or has that changed too?

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That's a load of crap if that's how it works, what if I reported someone for calling me ginger or tall? Just because someone is offended doesn't mean its a rule break.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

That's a load of crap if that's how it works, what if I reported someone for calling me ginger or tall? Just because someone is offended doesn't mean its a rule break.

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I'm not saying it is but that's what we were told previously, I know in some cases it's obvious when it isn't a rule break etc.