Yeah, some can be a little over the top, but I don't think all were. Some actually did bring discussion haha.Like my farts thread
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Originally Posted by Matts
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Yeah, some can be a little over the top, but I don't think all were. Some actually did bring discussion haha.Like my farts thread
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Originally Posted by Matts
I didn't read all 8 pages (sorry) but this shouldn't even be a poll. A forum is all about user-generated content and the direction a forum heads in is dictated by its user base. If the users want to create these threads and people participate them then clearly they're wanted. If they weren't, they'd have died down.
I suppose they did yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by e5
The poll results are interesting so we'll see ;)
I think that they should just stay where ever they are posted but if they are ridiculous like the coco pops then they should be moved.
To people saying it shows they are wanted..
Stick them in a forum with no post count. See if they are still wanted.
If they are, then people are not posting in them to spam and get post count. If people stop posting in them, it will be obvious that people didn't really want to post in them in the first place.
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The current rules will already ensure that the truely pointless ones (coco pops :P) are moved to Spam (which has no post count) so there's no need for another non-post count forum, imo :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
It's the only serious thread out of all of them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Matts
who even cares about post count and tokens not me
@Skandair;Quote:
Originally Posted by subo
I don't care about tokens..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
But you do care about post count...Quote:
Originally Posted by Skandair
Just post count, then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skandair
Yes, anything wrong with that? It's like an achievement score for a forum lmfaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
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Post count just, then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
Nothing wrong with liking post count. It becomes wrong when users spam the forum to gain it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skandair
I'm not saying there's anything wrong, I'm just saying people do care about post count, when many, many people have said 'But nobody cares about post count' in the past :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Skandair
It's not wrong though lol? It might be disliked but not wrong... it to say its spam ,it hasnt been moved to spam section much lmfaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
jus remove postcount problem solved lol
Just a reminder that the poll closes today at 20:35 BST (GMT+1)
"Don't change anything and let them continue" mhmm, the users voted ;)
The poll has now closed and results are in. The one with the most votes is:
"Don't change anything and let them continue"
Actually only 41/103 people wanted them to stay outright. In reality the vote against the threads was split. Therefore the vote was inconclusive though it does seem to imply primarily moving them to spam. However without full voting data it is impossible to tell.
Well everyone who said "move them to..." or "let them continue" must have felt they had something to add to the forum and weren't entirely pointless. So all those added together = 107 and the final two combined = 61.
It would have been much better with a simple "keep them" or "get rid of them" poll because then you couldn't really argue over what the best thing to do is.
Yeah.. adding them together won't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intersocial
Matt's given me some additional data on who voted what so I can do some better analysis on this. Twenty-nine people voted for "Don't change anything and let them continue" and did not vote for anything else. Since only 40% voted with that intention we can take the natural step of eliminating that as a viable option.
When those 29 people are added to the least controversial alternative (aka their likely voting intention if they could not vote to keep them), sub-forum with post count ENABLED, it leaves that as 61 people or 59% happiest (When a change is required) with the threads moved to a sub-forum with post count enabled.
The cross section of removing them altogether, moving them to spam or sub-forum by themselves is too similar for any of those to be a viable alternative over sub-forum with post count enabled.
The natural conclusion here would be to declare sub-forum with post count enabled as the victor. The real loser here is the FPTP system which is clearly demonstrated as unworkable. Clearly Habbox needs to move to a STV system.
CorrectQuote:
Originally Posted by Chippiewill
Little bit of logic goes a long way, kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skandair
I assume you are not actually going with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx
Don't change anything and let them continue; 41 votes
Move them to a sub-forum either with or without post count enabled; 66
The next stage should be a poll for a EITHER post count enabled or disabled sub forum, as evidently the most popular option is for them to be moved? :S
False. You CANNOT add the sub-forum totals together. The number of people who voted for either was too high. Having looked at who individually voted for what it HEAVILY implies that post count with post count enabled is favoured by far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
As a question to your post below, how did only 29 people vote for don't change anything when the poll results say 41? Am I missing something? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Chippiewill
But 62 INDIVIDUAL people MUST have picked one of the top four - which all ask for them to NOT stay as they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippiewill
29 of those 41 voted for JUST 'Stay as they are' and nothing else, therefore if it is eliminated as an option their votes would *normally* be lost. HOWEVER, I made the assumption (A fairly good one) that if they had to pick something else that they'd pick sub-forum with post count enabled. Therefore I essentially did a naughty AV vote and moved their votes to sub-forum with post count enabled which lands it with 61 people who would like it as an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intersocial
Yes, and looking at the data most people would have voted for sub forum with post count enabled if they could not have it stay as is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
That doesn't change the fact that "Don't change anything and let them continue" was the most popular option, as it received the most votes. Like I've said already, I really don't think anything needs to be done anyway and so I'm not really surprised that that was the option which received the most votes. There are already rules in place to deal with threads have no point and that really need to be dealt with, not to mention the problems with differentiating between a 'fast' thread and a 'normal' thread because of a difference of opinion which could cause arguments. So yeah, I still stand by my vote that nothing big like a sub forum needs to be done.
But more people voted that they didn't want them left as they are..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor
62 people voted one of the top four options, 41 people voted the keep them as they are option.
If you ask 100 people to pick fruit and 41 people pick Apple's, you cannot then say that more people selected an Apple than all the other fruits put together. For the final option to work, you would have to have 51 people or more to vote for it. Or in the poll example, you'd need a minimum of 52 people to vote for them to stay as they are.
This was a multiple choice poll though :P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
Indeed but the results show a MAXIMUM of 41 people voted to keep them as they are, whereas a MINIMUM of 62 people voted to have them moved/removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor
All the people that are debating the poll results are just kidding right? It was a multiple choice poll, everyone could vote for any option they thought was right, and it is clear which option won.
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Also worth noting that some of the 41 people are also some of the 62 people. And I'm afraid the thread poll wasn't 'Keep them' vs 'Have them moved/removed', if it was, you might have a case :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
And in that case, we best make the government non-conservative, because more people voted non-conservative than conservative.
The government should be formed by an independent candidate in a very small constituency then, considering they will have a large percentage of votes towards them, then votes against them, since the majority of the country didn't vote for them.
right u all listen here closely.
1) this poll was stupid and pointless in the 1st place
2) keep them as they r wins so shut up. it was multiple choice anyway so have several seats and move on with ur habbox lives. this alleged 62 of u or w/e wanting change couldnt even vote for the same damn option so u all want diff things so lol at u!!!! lol!!! keep it the same wins loL!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor
Almost. Imagine a (non multi choice) poll with the following options:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
Apple (Granny Smith) - 25 votes
Apple (Braeburn) - 26 votes
Apple (Gala) - 25 votes
Orange - 30 votes
You would not then declare the orange as the most popular fruit, you'd declare the apple with the Braeburn being the most popular variety.
Now of course our poll was multiple choice so instead we have the following data:
Apple (Granny Smith) - 25 votes
Apple (Braeburn) - 26 votes
Apple (Gala) - 25 votes
Orange - 30 votes
Total Unique voters: 61. Now we can deductively reason that:
Only 30/61 of those liked oranges
AT LEAST 31/61 of those liked Apples. Therefore the Apples won, we don't know which variety but we know they won. This is the situation we're in right now, less than 50% of people actually want them to stay despite the fact that it's the most popular option.
The people of the other side of the fence will settle in reality for ANYTHING that's not orange but did not explicitly express this. So Oranges are not an option to consider.
What we now discover is that of the apples, most people who liked just Orange would like Granny Smiths the most, if they had to eat an Apple. So what we can now do is take all of the people who voted for Orange and NOTHING ELSE and say they would vote for Granny Smith and move their votes to there, this is of course to determine the most popular of the Apples.
As it turns out, 25 of those who voted for Orange voted for nothing else, this leaves the Granny Smith apple at 50 votes, well above all of the others. Therefore it is the most agreeable option.
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I have done this with data that Matt has given me:
Subforum with Postcount Enabled: 32 (31%)
Subforum with Postcount Disabled: 34 (33%)
Move them to spam: 36 (35%)
Ban them altogether: 20 (19%)
Leave them as they are: 41 (40%) (29 voted as sole option)
Total 103
Clearly, Leaving them as they are as an overarching option was not the most popular. We can regard it as never a viable option for those on the other side of the fence and since it lost we can remove it entirely. People who voted for JUST Leave them as they are AND NOTHING ELSE, all 29 of them, get their votes moved to their most favorable alternative (Despite being a generalisation) of Subforum with Postcount Enabled. This leaves us with this picture instead:
Subforum with Postcount Enabled: 61 (59%)
Subforum with Postcount Disabled: 34 (33%)
Move them to spam: 36 (35%)
Ban them altogether: 20 (19%)
Total 103
It is painfully obvious now that Subforum with postcount enabled is the least controversial of ALL of the options.
Whilst this is not incredibly precise, without doing another poll with 'leave them as they are' and 'banned altogether' removed (Which Undertaker would immediately criticise for being too like the EU) this is the best we have.
Please tell me you're trolling @Chippiewill; :P
For everyone's benefit, Habbox has always picked the option with the most votes when it is a community poll. And you have to look at the option with the most votes because it was multiple choice. It allowed me to pick my first and 2nd picks :P So you should go with the one with the most votes :)
False.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
Well, your argument is false really. Yes, Orange probably wouldn't be voted as most favourite if you looked into the stats, but if you are asked 'Which out of these options would you like' NOT 'Which fruit is your favourite', then Orange does win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippiewill
In this poll we were asked which of these choices would we like to happen, we were not asked 'Would you like them moved or not'.
Plus, you are only considering the multiple choice votes within the last option aren't you? 41 people picked the last and winning option, but you say only 29 of those people solely picked that option?
Then how many people solely picked the other options? I know I picked option 2, so that definitely doesn't have 34 unique votes, and I would be surprised if any of the other options have 29+ unique votes beating the winning option. (And the fact is, we don't even need to look at unique votes, if we did, the poll wouldn't have been set up for multiple choice).
Plus, looking at unique votes is pointless, since everyone who voted multiple options may have had preferences that wouldn't be taken into account. I voted for Option 2 and 5, but would prefer 5 over 2. You can't tell everyone's preferences in the poll.
TL;DR - Poll is done. It's clear who the winner is. People that are debating it really are just wanting their option to win :P (Although I'm sure you were an option 5 voter, I'll have to read through the thread again :P)
The poll was conclusive in demonstrating that people didn't want them to stay as is. The middle ground is clearly changing them in some way. How is this not obvious?