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cutting doesn't help anything whichever way you look at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rihanna-cool
You know what.Quote:
Originally Posted by oli
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I think you should just step back for one second and take your head out from up your ass and realise that what your saying is inconsiderate, insensitive and it is hurting people, causing more damage than you could ever imagine in your perfect little world.
Edited by Dilusionate (Forum Moderator): Please do not be rude towards other members, thanks
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Originally Posted by oli
"everyone should just be me" - sorry, but everyone is different. People come from different backgrounds. People have different education. People have different issues. People can cope where others can't. How can people be happy and proud of who they are when it's people like you criticizing them for coping. People try to be happy but it can be others who bring them down. It's probably not their fault for some of the issues they have.Quote:
If you've got mental health or problems, such as depression or severe anxiety, you have a higher risk of self-harming. But if you do self-harm, it doesn't necessarily mean that you have a serious mental illness - it may just be that you're feeling alone, isolated, stressed, frustrated, or angry about issues out of your control. Such issues might include one or more of the following:
- Low self-esteem
- Poor body image
- Bullying or discrimination
- Unwanted pregnancy
- A serious illness that affects the way you feel about yourself
- Worries over sexuality
- Cultural/racial difficulties
- Feelings of rejection, lack of love and affection by parents or carers
- Parents getting divorced/family breakdown and conflict
- Physical, sexual or emotional abuse
- Domestic violence
- A bereavement
- Work pressures
- Money worries
- Depression
- The self-harm or suicide of someone close to you
- Isolation and loneliness
- Anxiety
- Drug and alcohol misuse
- Relationship problems
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Originally Posted by oli
this has been taken way too seriously
end it
ok so you're saying i care for nobody but myself, yet im not in anyway showing that so okQuote:
Originally Posted by :Cerys
my perfect little world isnt so perfect, but im happy n thats all that counts.
and i am being open minded, im just sharing my opinion with the group.
you're really mean you know cerys
unfriending u
@vls i know but alot of people care about it and have down it, olis pretty much saying theyre idiots for it
Oli
its does
emotionally for a while
Yes, you do only care about yourself. If you didn't you'd realise that people have their own problems and they have their own method of getting through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by oli
Yeh but it must be perfect because according to you nobody has problems, and if they do have problems they can just forget them in a flash!!
If you were being open minded you'd understand that people are DIFFERENT and they manage their lives in DIFFERENT ways.
w o w you just ruined my evening there mate, unfriending me is a low blow
heartbroken.
@oli; do you agree that all kinds of self harm are stupid or just cutting?
am surprised this is all going on
tbh im not saying i agree but everyone has their opinions on it
no point in trying to back up your side because oli obv thinks different
same as you're saying everyones different, he obv thinks differently like even if you think he isnt right
its his opinion and he obv isnt gna be changing it
u just lost a gr8 friend!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by :Cerys
and i still dont get how im only caring about myself but o k k k
whos saying i dont understand people are different? didnt say that once but o k k k
and its stupid if someone dwells on the bad parts of life, whats the point in that, if you're just gunna be miserable the entire time theres no point in you even being here, life is meant to be fun and if you're not gunna enjoy it ur just a waste
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cutting especiallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Comity
what other types do u mean
Other types could be starvation, drinking toxic fluids, burning yourself, pulling your hair out and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by oli
....you're unbelievable. I don't understand how someone can be such a little ****.
alcohol, drugs etc are all forms of self harm (i'm sure you have admitted to doing both)Quote:
Originally Posted by oli
you're harming your body with these its just not as obvious lol..
yh ive done bothQuote:
Originally Posted by Comity
theyre not good but im still gunna say i used them to have a good time ~ to enjoy life
oli m8 no offence but your arguments are weak as
especially the 'get a new family' one...lol
using them could probably be described as a relief? people find cutting themselves a relief in a sense... both are self harm, just because one is less obvious doesn't make it any different lolQuote:
Originally Posted by oli
i dont use them as a relief, i use them as a chance to let my hair down more than usualQuote:
Originally Posted by Comity
theyre not necessary to have a good time but they certainly help everyone become more comfortable n friendly
make your mind up?? it seems you can't decide whether or not you do it for fun or relief????? if they make you feel more comfortable surely that's some sort of reliefQuote:
Originally Posted by oli
never understood how putting yourself in physical pain can help your emotions. all it does is increase the number of problems you have because now you have to worry about "pls no infections, ow this hurts, stop stop looking at me".
communication i feel will always be the best form of help.
fine u win this 1 comityQuote:
Originally Posted by Comity
but drinking isnt the same thing as cutting, they are completely different situations
people drink just to have a laugh, people cut so that they feel physical pain
For me physical pain is much worse than emotional pain, therefore when I focus on physical pain I forget about emotional pain. Its temporary, obviously. Some use the fact that when the blood leaves, it's there issues going away. People do it for different reasons but I hope that helps you understand a little?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yupt
Communication is great when you're not nervous! I agree, but it's not always easy :P
I know what you mean but idk some people dont worry about that i mean i sure would like if it was that severe, but it does help, maybe not everyoneQuote:
Originally Posted by Yupt
i've just read as much of this thread as i can be bothered and jesus christ oli i dont even know where to begin. everything u have said is stupid as ****
do u believe wat u r saying? r u trolling?
:S
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so you're saying cutting isnt a stupid thing to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by subo
you're saying its clever?
Tbh, one of my friends who cuts says that he does it so not only it is his relief, but it is also so he knows that he can still feel pain. He feels numb from everything he has gone through etcetcQuote:
Originally Posted by oli
if you see what I mean.
There's so many reasons to cut, so it is ridiculous to say that every one of these reasons makes you an idiot/ungrateful/whatever else you said
but drink is self harm to an extent!! you just part-take in it so you agree with it lolQuote:
Originally Posted by oli
also a stubborn nature and stinking personality :¬:Quote:
Originally Posted by oli
this might be just silly me but isnt like over drinking, binge drinking technically self harm idk
Youre harming your liver? For future and mentally
IDK BINGE IDK
why doesnt he pinch himself instead?Quote:
Originally Posted by :Cerys
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yh comity is saying thatQuote:
Originally Posted by rihanna-cool
IM NOT LABELING CUTTERS THEY DONT NEED TO BE LABELLED ANYTHING. PPL THAT CUT R NOT STUPID.Quote:
Originally Posted by oli
U HOWEVER R STUPID!!!
why doesnt he pinch himself instead? are you taking the mickey? idk
so cutting is a clever thing to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by subo
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yeah that is much less severe than taking a knife to ur skin? ...Quote:
Originally Posted by rihanna-cool
Ok I'm done with this.
You're a pathetic little troller who clearly has nothing better to do other than make ridiculous 'points' about a topic you know nothing about on the internet.
Welldone, your life so far is going fab, keep it up.
I have quite a few friends who have cut (im not saying your wrong btw because obviously if that works for you then w.e) but they always saw their cuts as a constant reminder and no just got worse n worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detective
all im saying is there is more appropriate methods to relieve yourself of stress, pls it also isn't fair on others who legit care for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by rihanna-cool
pinch yourself lmfao i can't ahahhaha
what ridic pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by :Cerys
why wouldnt you just pinch yourself if you feel numb? pinching yourself still hurts but it doesnt leave a lasting effect.
Does it matter if cutting is/isn't clever or is/isn't stupid? Tell someone who cuts not to cut surely that's not helping them and it could easily cut more. You're calling them idiots, stupid etc. adding on to all the pressure they're already feeling. They don't feel happy, why would telling them not to do something help? You can't get a new life, you can change your life, but it will never be new no matter what you do. You will have those memories even if they're stored in your long term memory, it could just be a simple trigger that sets it off, all that hurt and abuse suffered, that sadness you felt. You're entitled to your opinion, but people on this forum may/may not self harm, so before you try to reply actually show some form of empathy or sympathy even if you're against it, you never know it may just help or change your views.
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.......... ...
no1 is saying its clever to cut. no1 is encouraging cutting as a clever thing to do. so pls stop repeating urself
I don't know if he's trolling right now or serious but if he has kids some day, I genuinely hope they don't come for his advice.
Imagine coming to your dad for help and his reply is "Grow a pair" :rolleyes_
i do feel sorry for them but its still not a very clever thing to do if one was to cut themselves...Quote:
Originally Posted by Samanfa
i know quite a few people who cut, and im not targeting any of u but half of them do it to get the attention of others around them, some others are depressed but it is still a very stupid thing to do, you should trust in the people who are close to you n mayb u wont need to cut yourself