Does God Exist?

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Originally Posted by kizza149

weres the evadance that god doesn't exist?

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Plain an simply, the fact that he hasn't made a recent appearance in 'burning bush form' or 'cloud pillar form' or even as a regular human being who can perform extraordinary things is proof enough that he doesnt. Requiring proof for his existance has and will always be required for some people to believe in him, otherwise, him not being around for over 2000 years and the religion itself pulling all the strings, coupled with the low vailidity of the bible and other religious texts due to carbon dating or actually dated records will forever be a testement to people who simply don't want to believe in someone they can't see, hear or feel.

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Originally Posted by 7799car

I don't because:

• Adam & Eve = Everyone is related in some way.
  

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Couldn't you say the same thing about Evolution though?

If all things living evolved from the same place surely everything living on Earth is in some way related to one another?

I dont think there is a God, I'm a man of science n ting.

You see I went to church when I was younger, and even now still go. But I can't bring myself to believe in God, there is so much of the bible that makes no sense, can't be proved at all and is completely ludicrous. Of course it was a way for people to feel better about things, or maybe for people to control things. I don't know, all I know is I feel happy when I do go to church, even though I don't really believe anything the minister says. I am so much more spiritual.

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Originally Posted by .Sarcastix.

Plain an simply, the fact that he hasn't made a recent appearance in 'burning bush form' or 'cloud pillar form' or even as a regular human being who can perform extraordinary things is proof enough that he doesnt. Requiring proof for his existance has and will always be required for some people to believe in him, otherwise, him not being around for over 2000 years and the religion itself pulling all the strings, coupled with the low vailidity of the bible and other religious texts due to carbon dating or actually dated records will forever be a testement to people who simply don't want to believe in someone they can't see, hear or feel.

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How is him not 'making an appearance' proof that he doesn't exist? :S

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Originally Posted by Biohazard

How is him not 'making an appearance' proof that he doesn't exist? :S

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It isn't that he wont exist if he doesn't make an appearance, but making someone believe that something exists is far easier if they can see, hear and feel them. Some people aren't willing to wait and see if it could happen when it hasn't happened in over 2000 years, so people stop believing he exists if he doesn't make an appearance because its accepting that a higher power is a work that cannot be seen, heard or understood, something many humans refuse to accept because something can always be understood and learned, otherwise we would still be in the dark ages drilling into peoples heads to cure Schizophrenia and whatnot. We develop and grow, we learn from experience and better ourselves to understand the universe around us, if something can't be seen, heard or felt, whos to say that it exists. Its like saying if a tree falls in the forest with no one around, does it make a sound, logically yes, but who can prove it does, no one can be there through any means otherwise it changes the criteria for the example. The same applies to god, if no one can see, hear or feel him, does he exist?

I know I'm long winded (lol), my friend told me before that god does exist, but he's been retired for over 2000 years xD!

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Originally Posted by .Sarcastix.

The same applies to god, if no one can see, hear or feel him, does he exist?

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No one can see, hear or feel gravity, but it exists. In some philosophies God is described as 'limitless and unknowable' so naturally there isn't a problem with not being able to see, hear or feel 'him'. There are also still fish in the ocean that we have not seen, heard, or felt yet we know they exist because of signs they leave behind. The same with dinosaurs. No one has ever seen, heard or felt a real one yet we know they existed because of their fossils. A better argument would be 'if God exists why is there no sign that 'he' was ever here?'. Although the 'limtless and unknowable' excuse could be used there as well.

Stephen Fry has already answered this question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3NRT748hKA#t=6m15s

I believe in the Greek & Norse Mythology because it's much more interesting, what did God do, not much..?

And I do believe it was evolution/science that started the human race.

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Originally Posted by Neversoft

No one can see, hear or feel gravity, but it exists. In some philosophies God is described as 'limitless and unknowable' so naturally there isn't a problem with not being able to see, hear or feel 'him'. There are also still fish in the ocean that we have not seen, heard, or felt yet we know they exist because of signs they leave behind. The same with dinosaurs. No one has ever seen, heard or felt a real one yet we know they existed because of their fossils. A better argument would be 'if God exists why is there no sign that 'he' was ever here?'. Although the 'limtless and unknowable' excuse could be used there as well.

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You know gravity exists because you can feel its force keeping us on the planet like when you jump etc. The example of gravity is a good one, but you can feel it effects and you can see the effects, you drop a ball, it doesn't stay in place, it falls, hence the physical and visable effect of gravity. We know that there a certain fish in the ocean although we haven't seen them due to their ancestry and fossils, hence, they did exist because we can see their remains. I did explain this in another post relating to god, that he hasn't made an appearance in a while, what proof is there that he existed in the past, a bible and historical texts written at least a hundred years after Jesus died and over a thousand years after god created the universe. So I do agree with what you said, I was explaining something to someone in my last post (at least I think, I was drunk at the time), so it might not be literal as much as an example of what I was trying to put across.