*DEBATE* Should public smoking be banned? Winner = Klock

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Originally Posted by BLuweesH

That, I agree with. But what can be done about it? Absolutely nothing, unless the smokers shouldn't be smoking in the area of it isn't allowed, you either gotta put up with it, or be elsewhere. That's the unfortunate way.

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That is the whole point of the debate. What you have just said is proof that smoking tobacco should be banned in public areas. If people want to smoke, fine, just don't bother others while doing it. Go somewhere where other people aren't being annoyed or harmed (your house..) and that way no one will complain.

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Originally Posted by Lozza

Another point. If you smoke, your house tax and everything to do with housing goes up, a lot.

This is true.

Its the way life is. Put up with it, or change.

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Where does it say this? I never knew this.

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Originally Posted by ssricky

they put that big price on smoking to discourage people from smoking cuz it is costy

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Yet the government puts the money to waste.

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Originally Posted by Corey777

That is the whole point of the debate. What you have just said is proof that smoking tobacco should be banned in public areas. If people want to smoke, fine, just don't bother others while doing it. Go somewhere where other people aren't being annoyed or harmed (your house..) and that way no one will complain.

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Unless you're smoking alone, there will always be people bothered by it. But most likely they'll say nothing, or they'll just make coughing noises or wave their hand infront of their nose.


Edit - ACK jeez I just noticed I double posted. Sorry >_<

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Originally Posted by BLuweesH

Where does it say this? I never knew this.



Yet the government puts the money to waste.

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My mum works for the council and has told me. My mates dad smokes and his house is near exactly the same as mine, and they pay more than my mum; which is a non smoker. I have no evidence, thats why I didn't put it in my section.

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Originally Posted by Lozza

My mum works for the council and has told me. My mates dad smokes and his house is near exactly the same as mine, and they pay more than my mum; which is a non smoker. I have no evidence, thats why I didn't put it in my section.

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Well. Either the Government really have a cunning way to stop you, or they just want more revenue.

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Originally Posted by BLuweesH

Unless you're smoking alone, there will always be people bothered by it. But most likely they'll say nothing, or they'll just make coughing noises or wave their hand infront of their nose.


Edit - ACK jeez I just noticed I double posted. Sorry >_<

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If you are the only smoker in your home, most likely you will be smoking alone. The rest of the family won't let the smoker smoke in the house (most likely) as it affects everyone else's health and in my opinion leaves a nasty stale smell. So, they will probably be smoking in the backyard alone, in the privacy of their property.

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Originally Posted by bluweesh

Well. Either the Government really have a cunning way to stop you, or they just want more revenue.

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Sadly, Im thinking the second option is more likely.

Like corey says tobacco companies are private companies none are governmentally owned.

A lot of people have died from cancer which was the result of passive smoking, just recently the owner of my local had to sell his pub because he developed lung cancer despite being a non-smoker for 30 years. Also its not just adults that get effected its children too.

Technically the term public should mean an area where the general members of the public are there so if I smoked in my car I am not effecting anyone else really.

Also I see no statistical evidence only claims, like I said before 52% out of 1500 people surveyed were for the ban of smoking in public places 1/3 smokers themselves.

I don't think your comment of looking "cool" or "hard" is well justified as to be fair their are many laws people break not to look cool or hard just for their own convinience.

Also the so call "Fashionable Smokers" are generally underaged teens and they by law should not be buying cigarrettes anyway but they still do (although its not illegal for them to smoke them)

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If the non-smokers choose to take a route to work, and they pass many smokers, and they think they are at risk, they the should reconsider there route to work.

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Erm infringement of human rights? That would be an infringement of my freedom if I had to reconsider my route in a public area due to certain people making me feel uncomfortable. This is why this is such a delicate subject because we need to consider the point of view of the smokers and non-smokers.

I usually have to smoke outside or at the very least dangerously leaning outside my window, so it really isnt effecting others or my housing prices.

The government puts most that money back into the NHS for the people effected by smokers and other anti-smoking organisation. yeesh lighten up on the way they handle money.

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Originally Posted by Corey777

If you are the only smoker in your home, most likely you will be smoking alone. The rest of the family won't let the smoker smoke in the house (most likely) as it affects everyone else's health and in my opinion leaves a nasty stale smell. So, they will probably be smoking in the backyard alone, in the privacy of their property.

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Say I got married to a smoker, I wouldn't care, The only time I'd tell my husband not to smoke is if I became pregnant and when a young child is born. Except from those exceptions, he could smoke in the house. By the way, this is my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Lozza

Say I got married to a smoker, I wouldn't care, The only time I'd tell my husband not to smoke is if I became pregnant and when a young child is born. Except from those exceptions, he could smoke in the house. By the way, this is my opinion.

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That would be your choice, which would be fine. But, smoking in the public is against many people's will as they would rather not have to worry about health issues from passive smoking.

Also, what about when the child is developed. Do you really think that it would be fair on the child, who probably has no real intelligence on smoking to smoke in the house? I don't think so.

To throw in my final point of tonight,

IF there was a public ban and people were more likely to smoke in their homes, would their be an increase in deaths by fires due to cigarette butts?