This is a freeking shams

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Originally Posted by J1MI

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, having spoken to the owner of the only white smoke thats been traded recently we have worked on a more accurate value for this item. Please remember these values are only guides.
Thank you.

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Well said J1MI, Guides. Guides. Guides.

Very diplomatically put, however the credit lies with 8Freak8 and Sierk, as per the post in 'ask the rare values reporters' 8Freak8 did say he would contact Dan (-:Undertaker:-) for a reason as to why the value was changed, and also contact Sierk, as to which he did, Sierk then contacted a few select people via PM to ask for their opinions on the matter, myself included, i provided feedback and a more appropriate value as i am sure all the people he choose to contact did, the value was then updated accordingly. I feel the new value is a more appropriate guide value, given that there are so few of them, it is a hard value to keep accurate track of, as they are not traded very often. I hope this brings the matter to a satisfactory conclusion for everyone directly involved.

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Originally Posted by Boxiel

Why has hx put White smoke to 14 T?


There is only 2 on the hotel

nick still has his

and i certainally didnt buy for 14 T

so how can it be at 14 T?

CHANGE IT

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People can sell their White Smokes for however much they like, a number on a GUIDE site isn't going to change that.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

People can sell their White Smokes for however much they like, a number on a GUIDE site isn't going to change that.

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your values are based on what's being traded though, right? and well it wasn't traded at 14t?

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Originally Posted by lethal

your values are based on what's being traded though, right? and well it wasn't traded at 14t?

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Ive had a HRVR report it as 13T or 14T to me and I also asked the owner of a White Smoke say it was around that price aswell.

Big supers like this range in values all the time EG: The Purple Dragon when it was ranging from 35T - 70T

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Ive had a HRVR report it as 13T or 14T to me and I also asked the owner of a White Smoke say it was around that price aswell.

Big supers like this range in values all the time EG: The Purple Dragon when it was ranging from 35T - 70T

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but it was traded at 18t. you've always said you base your values on trades that are actually happening, and well someone 'reported it' being 13/14t, where the hell did they get it from? they asked a previous owner? what of what he thought it should be?

As I said it was reported to me at 13T/14T and I also checked with the previous owner.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

People can sell their White Smokes for however much they like, a number on a GUIDE site isn't going to change that.

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As many members use habbox values for guides, they expect them to be around the rough trading price, most people expect them to be what they are 'guide prices' and yes i am afraid it does affect what people are willing to pay for items, as you should be well aware of being the RVR manager. Habbox is mainly famous for it's values, that is what a lot of visitor's come for, they should be given high maintenance as well you should already know. It cannot be justified on a single trade to dramatically drop the value, or else if when i had the white smoke, had i wanted to quit or got stuck and desperate and sold it for 1T that would be the value? No! As you know, many factors can contribute to such supers, i have traded in just about every super duper rare, hence i kind of know what i am talking about, hence why i was asked for my opinion of what the guide value for it should now be. I also know where it will go ;)

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Originally Posted by fitcovboy

As many members use habbox values for guides, they expect them to be around the rough trading price, most people expect them to be what they are 'guide prices' and yes i am afraid it does affect what people are willing to pay for items, as you should be well aware of being the RVR manager. Habbox is mainly famous for it's values, that is what a lot of visitor's come for, they should be given high maintenance as well you should already know. It cannot be justified on a single trade to dramatically drop the value, or else if when i had the white smoke, had i wanted to quit or got stuck and desperate and sold it for 1T that would be the value? No! As you know, many factors can contribute to such supers, i have traded in just about every super duper rare, hence i kind of know what i am talking about, hence why i was asked for my opinion of what the guide value for it should now be. I also know where it will go ;)

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There are about 2 White Smokes in circulation, so it is very rare for them both to be traded around the same time.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

There are about 2 White Smokes in circulation, so it is very rare for them both to be traded around the same time.

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Who said anything about them both being traded? I know that Nick- still has the one i sold him, i know who sold Boxiel his and for what, i also know that throughout the threads this amount varies, if you look in the thread regarding habbox values he says he sold it for 17T, but despite what it was traded for there were circumstances behind this, the main reason for the drop in price was the speculation going around, that because the red smoke came out, so would the white one, anyway as stated i believe it is now a more justified guide price at this current moment in time, i will if motivated to do so, send Sierk values as and when, unless he specifically for some as he did today. I think this debate has run its course, the problem was presented and has been dealt with.