Big Bang or Genesis?

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Originally Posted by Ella

How did the universe begin? And why do you think it? :)

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Well, nether, the big bang has never been the creation of the universe, its often confused with it, but never the less it is NOT it.
The big bang is thought to have happened a short time after the universes conception (a few milliseconds at most).

Evidence for this, is both background radiation we can still detect and the explanation for the expansion of our universe.

So yea, i believe the big bang happened, but it wasn't the start of the universe, a great number of different theories of how that occurred do exist, personaly i think M theory seems the strongest myself, although i dont keep up with the issue to well, so its likely being disproven and replaced by a better theory by now anyway.


So in summary, Science people, learn ya danm science right.

Secondly, genisis is a specific bible story in which god personally creates the earth, the rest of the universe along with dinosaurs dont actually exist if we take this as true. And the fact the world was apparently created in the middle of an agricultural revolution also needs to be ignored.

Im somewhat unsure how someone could really take the genesis side in light of all the evidence, but as einstine allegedly said "the only thing thats truly infinite is human stupidity"

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> Genesis being wrong does not disprove god, but it does mean everything the bible tells you about this god, is probably wrong.

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Originally Posted by 01101101entor

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> Genesis being wrong does not disprove god, but it does mean everything the bible tells you about this god, is probably wrong.

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I sort of agree with you there but the bible was written 1000 + years ago so alot of it is proberly fairy tailish. Alot of people do use the bible as a 'rule book '(sp?) which I think is wrong. I personally think most of the bible is to teach you 'lifes lessons' through storys.

The bible wouldn't really mention the rest of the universe because we hadn't really discovered much of it around the time it was written. But this also presents the problem that some people think the bible was written from Gods words which I also disagree with. As far as dinosaurs go I'm not sure when dinosaur fossils were first discovered but they'd proberly refuse to mention them in the bibble because they thought all gods creations were perfect but how can a perfect creation become extinct? So yeah I do think God exists but surely he has moved with the times like humans have?

I believe that the Big Bang happened but that was just the start of space, and like someone said, maybe the universe evolved through that. How God created the Earth as it did in the Bible is most likely not true, but that is not going against saying God doesn't exist. I believe in evolution, and not in How God made the first man and woman because it is much more scientific that we evolved from apes. But it is hard to find out how the universe was created, I mean nothing was there, no one to go back in time to see it, but I always had this strange theory. I thought that maybe our universe was created when there was a universe before us ended, like the sun exploded or something and the impact caused everything to implode or something and then out came a totally different universe, and.. yeah. Not believeable but it is just a strange theory.

I believe God made the big bang reaction take place.. or some other form of the universe..

Others theorise the universe has been here forever: so if the universe is infite: is it God?

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Originally Posted by Dan2nd

I sort of agree with you there but the bible was written 1000 + years ago so alot of it is proberly fairy tailish. Alot of people do use the bible as a 'rule book '(sp?) which I think is wrong. I personally think most of the bible is to teach you 'lifes lessons' through storys.

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Although as you say its a 1000+ years old, most the lessons about life dont really appy to the modern world.

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The bible wouldn't really mention the rest of the universe because we hadn't really discovered much of it around the time it was written. But this also presents the problem that some people think the bible was written from Gods words which I also disagree with. As far as dinosaurs go I'm not sure when dinosaur fossils were first discovered but they'd proberly refuse to mention them in the bibble because they thought all gods creations were perfect but how can a perfect creation become extinct? So yeah I do think God exists but surely he has moved with the times like humans have?

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God is supposed to be perfect, if he has to change with the times he cant have been perfect to start with. God shouldn't need to change, although the fact peoples views of him have had to proves the bibles a load of crap so far as being evdence for a god. If anything its good evidence against the one it speaks of.

The big bang because I am not religious at all, except in I believe in Jesus.

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Originally Posted by @K

The big bang because I am not religious at all, except in I believe in Jesus.

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What the..

He probably believes Jesus did exist, but doesn't think he had his 'magical powers'.

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Originally Posted by @K

The big bang because I am not religious at all, except in I believe in Jesus.

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what do u believe about jesus then if ur not religious :S

I dont know how an explosion is able to create plants and animals personally...