Am I in the wrong?

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Originally Posted by Tim.

Well to be perfectly honest i didnt say ill 'wreck your reputation' I actualy said well ill just ask the people on habbox, and then 2 minutes later you decided to post it.

Also i understand labour costs to be when someone produces something which you can actualy use without having to pay others to sort it out so its actualy functional?

Look as i said earlier i know long care for this, you can argue, say crap about me, at the end of the day you can tarnish my reputation on here, but to be quite honest i'm not going to hang around on habbox all my life - So go ahead its only £5 but some of us arent loaded and dont have all the cash in the world.

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You do know you have to do

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or w/e for each line. And he has displayed it. Or are you too niave to understand this?

The point is you paid £5 for a reason (labour). He did £5 worth of labour easily. Web developers get paid WAY more than that in the real world.

He took it as a small deposit for a small ammount of work and so you would prove you're trustworthy I suppose. He would take the rest of the cash (for the rest of the labour + completion of script) after he had finished script.

But you wanted the deposit back. He was so wrong to give it to you. Even though it's 5 pounds, it's just the scenario.

Tim you have an extreme lack of understanding.

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Originally Posted by Tim.

Well to be perfectly honest i didnt say ill 'wreck your reputation' I actualy said well ill just ask the people on habbox, and then 2 minutes later you decided to post it.

Also i understand labour costs to be when someone produces something which you can actualy use without having to pay others to sort it out so its actualy functional?

Look as i said earlier i know long care for this, you can argue, say crap about me, at the end of the day you can tarnish my reputation on here, but to be quite honest i'm not going to hang around on habbox all my life - So go ahead its only £5 but some of us arent loaded and dont have all the cash in the world.

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You said "You've got a good rep on HxF, we'll see what they have to say won't we :)". I said go ahead. I posted it because I wanted to know if I was in the wrong but clearly I wasn't.

What are you on about functional? It all works with some quick PHP edits dude.

What reputation? £5 isn't much to me so I gave it back as you was crying in the conversation. It would have simply bought me a new domain that I wouldn't use or something.

Your a web developer you can charge what you like, I wasnt just paying £5, and that in my eyes wasnt worth it, sorry if you think otherwise.

and the part where you said ' I was crying ' GOD Thats aload of crap. You said We'll wait and see what the hxf users say, and you refunded because several told you to. I Said thank you. but you couldnt drop it because one member sticks up for you. Can you just drop this case, your calling me immature, yet have you seen yourselves i've said atleast twice now forget it i dont care, and you still keep going on and on trying to cause an argument, just shut up? I get the point. I dont give a crap anymore.

Tim, i think that you asked me to do this but i couldn't do as much as that

Those are exactly the same specs you sent me?

I think you should get a full refund for lack of effort tbh

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Originally Posted by Tim.

Your a web developer you can charge what you like, I wasnt just paying £5, and that in my eyes wasnt worth it, sorry if you think otherwise.

and the part where you said ' I was crying ' GOD Thats aload of crap. You said We'll wait and see what the hxf users say, and you refunded because several told you to. I Said thank you. but you couldnt drop it because one member sticks up for you. Can you just drop this case, your calling me immature, yet have you seen yourselves i've said atleast twice now forget it i dont care, and you still keep going on and on trying to cause an argument, just shut up? I get the point. I dont give a crap anymore.

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The £5 was for deposit, for my labour. By all rights I could have asked for half the payment upfront with no questions asked.

Yes you was theoretically crying in that msn conversation. Caps lock was on an awful lot. Yes I did, I said we'd wait to see if I was wrong or right.. Turns out I was right. I dropped it and you messaged me again, I don't know where you got me coming back from? I'll stop when you quit replying to my thread thankyou.

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Originally Posted by .:.:jjm261:.:.

Tim, i think that you asked me to do this but i couldn't do as much as that

Those are exactly the same specs you sent me?

I think you should get a full refund for lack of effort tbh

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I'm really sorry but do you work or have college? Do you know what it's like?

Excellent Drop it. Ok you've prooved your point. thanks alot for the support jjm.

lol ur fighting over £5

I got to take excellents side, college is a headache (esp if your doing an IT course and are infront of a computer all day, does demotivate you)

Ladies...

If you take on a job, complete it. If you know you can't complete, don't take the job. If you said "Oh, Christmas is also coming up so I might be delayed", don't take the job. It's your responsibility as the coder to produce the work to the highest standard and on time. If you can't manage your time properly then don't take the job.

I do college myself doing 6 AS Levels including IT and Computing yet I have time to do Flash work in the evening and post on Habbox. The fact is you knew you wouldn't have time and you should have said "It might not be completed until after xmas" in the first place. Otherwise you should have given him a refund right away.

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Originally Posted by Excellent2

I'm not crying about anything. He's been refunded. In all rights I should have kept it for my labour but ahh well.. never deal with kids as you rightly said matt :P

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Labour? I could have downloaded files just like that from some random tutorial site that offer downloadable versions of their tutorials. I could probably come up with somthing similar with no effort atall.

Oh: And if you can't reach the deadline then money should be paid back if the percentage done is less than the client is happy with.

Regards,