'Al-Qaeda links' suspect probed over US plane 'attack'

Everyone has different experiences. I remember in 2005 my family went to Orlando in December and once we have landed we all had to line up. We had to have our picture taken, finger prints taken etc. Then get scanned, scanned again before we could even get our luggage. But on the way back my auntie bought this dragon knife thing (to put on show obv) but due to that, her suitcase got broken into by security staff and I think it was taken out. I'm not sure but once we got back to Manchester the case had the homeland security tape or whatever is around us. But then they were pretty peeved off because they damager the case.

Just goes to show doesn’t it?

Security needs to be high, aviation is a very big target for terrorism and it can cause a lot of damage. We need to be strict all year round.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

A young extremist who was in Britain for a short period - a potential terrorist!? - surely not!

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Well the intelligence agencies do seem to of failed in this respect. However it seems it might of only been recently he became extreme and then went to Yemen, Ethiopia etc to undergo Al Qaeda training. And bare in mind he only went to those countries in the last few months. Oh and it's been quite a bit of time since he was in the UK so you can kind of see how he remained below the radar.

Well if its that easy to 'remain below the radar' then I fear for the UK' and US' airports.

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Originally Posted by Wolves,

Well if its that easy to 'remain below the radar' then I fear for the UK' and US' airports.

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We don't know when the last time he was in the United Kingdom so I don't think we have any major blame here. But what I have been reading some mistakes have been popping up within the US and other countries.

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Originally Posted by Wolves,

Tbh Saurav I have to agree. This time last year I went to Florida, and my nan who is in her 80s came because my mom and dad were getting married their. We went through all the checks, x-ray machines and what not, half way through the flight my mom goes to get some tablets out my nans bag to give to her, and what does she find? A pair of scissors?? which were not picked up? Like what the hell. How is that possible? God only knows why she was carrying scissors? But that's not the point.

I'm now ******** myself big time about flying on Tuesday.

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Oh come on, stop making a big drama about flying you big girls blouse. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of flights daily. Not very often does something like this occur, it's very rare. Then the chances of a terrorist getting onto your flight is tiny, you'd probably have more chance of winning the lottery. Also, security will probably be upped now so nothing to worry about.

I'm not being mean or trying to cause trouble but honestly, you sound silly. :P

I sound silly for being worried that the plane I'm going on may be blown up in mid-air by some Islamic extremist, so that's being a big girls blouse? Also when you said 'There's more chance of winning the lottery', what? how did you work this out? I was only saying it because I am flying to America on a transatlantic flight, like the one that only two days ago nearly got blown out of the sky.

Forgive me for being a little worried that I may die. (but yeah I agree, it'll probably never happen! ;))

If he was worrying about flying to any other country than USA, I would ask him to stop worrying.

Worrying about flying from UK to USA is understandable, especially after this event.

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Originally Posted by Wolves,

I sound silly for being worried that the plane I'm going on may be blown up in mid-air by some Islamic extremist, so that's being a big girls blouse? Also when you said 'There's more chance of winning the lottery', what? how did you work this out? I was only saying it because I am flying to America on a transatlantic flight, like the one that only two days ago nearly got blown out of the sky.

Forgive me for being a little worried that I may die. (but yeah I agree, it'll probably never happen! ;))

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I know your only human but think of it this way. Why is there any more chance you'll be blown up this week than last week? Last week it would of probably crossed your mind briefly but never really occurred to you much. Just cause there's been one last Friday doesn't mean there's anymore of a chance of an attack than there was last week. It's not like other terrorists will set them off to make up for his failure, oh and also there's temporarily heightened security, technically just after a terrorism attack, is one of the safest times to fly. So there's probably less chance if anything.

Hopefully that'll calm your fears a little but y'no, I'm not good with that stuff :P

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Well the intelligence agencies do seem to of failed in this respect. However it seems it might of only been recently he became extreme and then went to Yemen, Ethiopia etc to undergo Al Qaeda training. And bare in mind he only went to those countries in the last few months. Oh and it's been quite a bit of time since he was in the UK so you can kind of see how he remained below the radar.

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This country has absolutly not control over whos coming in or whos going out, so i'm hardly suprised that this guy has been in the United Kingdom before, and think of how easy it could of been for him to just blow up a bus or a building - nothing will get done about all this until someone important (an MP or an MPs' relative) is injured or killed, and then we'll all notice a crackdown.

On the airports, most of it makes no sense anyway as shown in Michael Moore's Farenheit 9/11 - people were allowed to travel after 9/11 with boxes of matches on the planes so in all its just a total joke, not to mention when they take time out to search old people for bombs - I mean, when was the last time a grandmother from the United Kingdom attempted to blow up a plane?

All in the name of Labour's multi-culturalism though hey, can't sterotype or that'd be racist!!

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

This country has absolutly not control over whos coming in or whos going out, so i'm hardly suprised that this guy has been in the United Kingdom before, and think of how easy it could of been for him to just blow up a bus or a building - nothing will get done about all this until someone important (an MP or an MPs' relative) is injured or killed, and then we'll all notice a crackdown.

On the airports, most of it makes no sense anyway as shown in Michael Moore's Farenheit 9/11 - people were allowed to travel after 9/11 with boxes of matches on the planes so in all its just a total joke, not to mention when they take time out to search old people for bombs - I mean, when was the last time a grandmother from the United Kingdom attempted to blow up a plane?

All in the name of Labour's multi-culturalism though hey, can't sterotype or that'd be racist!!

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Luckily my memory has served me correctly. As soon as there is terrorism you talk of crackdowns and you go on about easy it is to travel in airports.

Yet when Manchester introduced new "Naked scanners" in their airports earlier in the year. First of all you say;

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One more step towards a police state.

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And then you go on to say...

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

It is also known as common sense, with the level security at airports and the fact there has been no terrorist attack on a plane in the United Kingdom in recent years proves it is working, so why would the government take very extreme steps to protect us when there is very little to protect us from. The government allows criminals into the country, along with allowing islamic extremists to preach hate in the country and not be deported - so ask yourself are they genuinely protecting us or what.

My point is that democracy should be preserved and that we should avoid using the tools and techniques that Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin and Chairman Mao could only of dreamed of.

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You talk of a lack of threat seeing as there's been no "terrorist attack on a plane in recent years" and then go on to say this proves the current method is "working". This only shows that it is not the case.

I'm afraid there's no pleasing you as the government are always wrong when it comes to surveillance in your eyes.

And although you say it's not surprising he came into the country as we can't control our borders, he came to the UK to legitimately study, which is of course a fine reason to come into the UK, he was paying to attend our Universities. However you will be surprised to learn that earlier this year he tried to re-enter the UK and said that he would be attending some college, which later to be a fake college and he was rejected from entering the UK. Our immigration system is by no means perfect, but it isn't as bad as you claim. He was also flagged up by the UK intelligence agencies a long time ago, however he wasn't worthy of surveillance. For over two years the US also had their eye on him too. There is obviously many failings here for the UK & US intelligence agencies, and for the Dutch airport security however it is not as bad as you make out.