Abbreviations Rules

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Feedback like this is precisely why I was against unfiltering any of the abbreviations when it was suggested and then for some reason actually carried out. It just snowballs until you have no justification for what is and isn't filtered.




This.

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Fully agreed.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

What a crap excuse, when ever anyone says OMFG the F bit leaps up on you like a woman full of heat. Someone is saying porkies to save their bacon here ;)


Not a good idea at all. If it's not in the filter, it doesn't need to be in the rule list, as the point of rules is to suggest and advise people on things which are not allowed, and since OMFG, LMFAO and FML are allowed, adding them to the rules would be yet another reason to have the rules downgraded. Speaking of which, where are these new rules? :P

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Because Gomme the other abbreviations mentioned are considered to be 'avoiding the filter' if posted because if 'cbf' as exampled by Titch was posted in full it would be can't be ******. All abbreviations of fully spelt filtered words always have been. So putting the ones that are allowed make sense IMHO as the members know exactly which ones are allowed. This is no different to when 'ass' was filtered but it was in the rules for years that LMAO was acceptable. I am coming to the conclusion though, myself, that perhaps it wasn't a good idea as there is no line to draw as to when to stop as members just seem to want them all declared okay and aren't satisfied with the recent easing up on it.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

Because Gomme the other abbreviations mentioned are considered to be 'avoiding the filter' if posted because if 'cbf' as exampled by Titch was posted in full it would be can't be ******. All abbreviations of fully spelt filtered words always have been. So putting the ones that are allowed make sense IMHO as the members know exactly which ones are allowed. This is no different to when 'ass' was filtered but it was in the rules for years that LMAO was acceptable. I am coming to the conclusion though, myself, that perhaps it wasn't a good idea as there is no line to draw as to when to stop as members just seem to want them all declared okay and aren't satisfied with the recent easing up on it.

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Surely punishment should be handed out when it is considered rude, pointless or inappropriate? As many have mentioned, saying "CBF" is something they won't say in real life, same with LMFAO. It's an expression to show an exaggeration, not all people LMAO or LOL around when they make these comments, the F is chucked in for good measure and is quite common amoungst teenagers. For example:

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

I just pee'd my knickers.

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Originally Posted by Immenseman

LOL, you wear knickers?

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Originally Posted by sierk

LMFAO!

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

CBF answering this.

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If this is done in the spam forum, it's perfectly acceptable. It's common to glaze over expressions like LOL, because in reality, not everyone "Laughs Out Loud" when they say it. It's just to show the comment was "amusing".

An example where it is appropriate in a post counted forum could be:

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Originally Posted by Undertaker - In the Current Affairs Forum

I just don't think Gordon Brown CBF to be honest, he's given up all hope on the working class.

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Again, perfectly acceptable and the expression is just to exaggerate the idea that Gordon Brown cannot be bothered with the working class.

It's interesting how the use of abbreviations and how they are just mere exaggerations seems to not be looked at here. I see alot of people on Facebooks making comments like LMFAO in status updates. It's very common. If these comments are inappropriate in context, for example, formal discussions about the working class, then the members will self-moderate, which they do if odd, bizarre or completely out of context comments are made. Like when Jade Goody passed away from cancer. The ones who couldn't care less got "attacked" by the ones pro-cause or pro-Jade, who told them it was inappropriate. Serving members with medicine on a silver spoon kills a forum.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Surely punishment should be handed out when it is considered rude, pointless or inappropriate? As many have mentioned, saying "CBF" is something they won't say in real life, same with LMFAO. It's an expression to show an exaggeration, not all people LMAO or LOL around when they make these comments, the F is chucked in for good measure and is quite common amoungst teenagers. For example:






If this is done in the spam forum, it's perfectly acceptable. It's common to glaze over expressions like LOL, because in reality, not everyone "Laughs Out Loud" when they say it. It's just to show the comment was "amusing".

An example where it is appropriate in a post counted forum could be:


Again, perfectly acceptable and the expression is just to exaggerate the idea that Gordon Brown cannot be bothered with the working class.

It's interesting how the use of abbreviations and how they are just mere exaggerations seems to not be looked at here. I see alot of people on Facebooks making comments like LMFAO in status updates. It's very common. If these comments are inappropriate in context, for example, formal discussions about the working class, then the members will self-moderate, which they do if odd, bizarre or completely out of context comments are made. Like when Jade Goody passed away from cancer. The ones who couldn't care less got "attacked" by the ones pro-cause or pro-Jade, who told them it was inappropriate. Serving members with medicine on a silver spoon kills a forum.

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In my case i was being well behaved having a quiet chat in the spam forum and sed i cbf to post a thread for something me and ryan were discussing, i dont see how in any way that can be deemed as naughty :S

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Originally Posted by Titch

In my case i was being well behaved having a quiet chat in the spam forum and sed i cbf to post a thread for something me and ryan were discussing, i dont see how in any way that can be deemed as naughty :S

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Indeed, although it does depend on context. If you were posting for the sake of posting (which is annoying in spam and any walks of HxF life), then they have a point. But if you were saying you cannot be bothered or "CBF", in context with an event happening around the forum, then its perfectly acceptable as it isn't breaking any known rule as it is neither rude nor direct swearing (where it's out of context and serves no purpose). It's like mixing the pointless posting rules with another context really. If an abbreviation is pointless, guess what rule it (should) come under? :P

Again, I hope the new rule format is good, seeing as I posted a really good example of what the rules could be, without boring us with details.

I don't get that because Matt Garner told me 'omfg' was not allowed as I said it :/

I don't understand why wt.f is not allowed :S its not swearing.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Surely punishment should be handed out when it is considered rude, pointless or inappropriate? As many have mentioned, saying "CBF" is something they won't say in real life, same with LMFAO. It's an expression to show an exaggeration, not all people LMAO or LOL around when they make these comments, the F is chucked in for good measure and is quite common amoungst teenagers. For example:






If this is done in the spam forum, it's perfectly acceptable. It's common to glaze over expressions like LOL, because in reality, not everyone "Laughs Out Loud" when they say it. It's just to show the comment was "amusing".

An example where it is appropriate in a post counted forum could be:


Again, perfectly acceptable and the expression is just to exaggerate the idea that Gordon Brown cannot be bothered with the working class.

It's interesting how the use of abbreviations and how they are just mere exaggerations seems to not be looked at here. I see alot of people on Facebooks making comments like LMFAO in status updates. It's very common. If these comments are inappropriate in context, for example, formal discussions about the working class, then the members will self-moderate, which they do if odd, bizarre or completely out of context comments are made. Like when Jade Goody passed away from cancer. The ones who couldn't care less got "attacked" by the ones pro-cause or pro-Jade, who told them it was inappropriate. Serving members with medicine on a silver spoon kills a forum.

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I don't have an opinion one way or the other really - I just thought the rule could be clearer as to what is allowed. The merits as to what also could be allowed are up to the management/senior management. I can survive on the forum without saying any of these things but it seems some members seem to think it is important. Its a pretty subjective discussion because people express themselves in different ways but the forum management have to balance between what is acceptable to/for the younger members on the forum.

@gibs960 do you really think that the F in *** isn't swearing? :S

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

I don't have an opinion one way or the other really - I just thought the rule could be clearer as to what is allowed. The merits as to what also could be allowed are up to the management/senior management. I can survive on the forum without saying any of these things but it seems some members seem to think it is important. Its a pretty subjective discussion because people express themselves in different ways but the forum management have to balance between what is acceptable to/for the younger members on the forum.

@gibs960 do you really think that the F in *** isn't swearing? :S

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when i was younger i used to say what the froobs , could be that

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Originally Posted by Titch

when i was younger i used to say what the froobs , could be that

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I am so wet I actually quite like that. :D