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We gave members an inch and they tried to take a mile.
I think it's a lot better that these words are filtered as there is now no confusion regarding abbreviations.
In all honesty I fail to see why you need lmfao instead of lmao. There is no need to swear. Habbox Forum has been fine without swearing for 6 years.
This is a classic example of us listening to the opinion if our members, then it being ruined by the minority who decide to take it too far and abuse our generousity.
No the members didn't take it to far, only one did and whoever else agreed with him in that thread, so like 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
i dont see why people should lose out on something just because of someone who took an infraction to far.
a rule should be made saying you're not allowed go against a admin/mods decision in public or w/e. He should have just reported it instead of making it a big deal
I made a feedback thread becuase i did not understand the rule which i was within my rights to do so. Several well respected members even said it wasnt clarified what you were and wernt allowed to post, hence why i originally posted it. Management then agreed that its unfair to have one filtered and one unfiltered becuase of the confuseion. I didnt take the infraction to far, nor cry about it, i made a simple thread about it. If any1 is making a fuss or crying as you sed in your other post, its you. Least when its filtered people dont get confused of which they can and cannot post, which WAS the case before.Quote:
Originally Posted by sex
they said lmao and omg with f was unfiltered? how is that confusing? thats all that got unfiltered
My word, the amount of cack-handedship in this thread is unbelievable :O
So one person complained about an infraction? Big whoop. It's nice to see moderators, general management and forum management pussy footing around minor problems :rolleyes: The abbreviations in question did no harm, I'm shocked to see some people saying "I don't see why you need the F in there anyway" - LMFAO is common on the internet, abbreviations in general are - why are you bothering to go against common internet language? It's no wonder HxF has a bad name when it comes to pointless moderation and rules, they're trying to put rules and regulations in place which no where else does because it's too common to uphold. Heck, using this logic, why bother with abbreviations at all? Infact, let's start a riot over a new pointless forum rule "Do not use abbreviations - the only ones allowed should be LOL, LMAO, OMG etc".
I really do not see why they were re-filtered, and there appears to be no reason behind it either, other than some half-arsed excuse :/ Especially when someone says:
"This is a classic example of us listening to the opinion if our members, then it being ruined by the minority who decide to take it too far and abuse our generousity."
So the minority ruined it? Why ruin it for the majority, when it was such a petty thing. Pathetic, to be honest :/ One step backwards.
That would be really be a step back as that's is what the feedback forum is for, surely.Quote:
Originally Posted by sex
I agree. IMO anything that is changed should be incorporated in the rules as I suggested here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Titch
http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost....4&postcount=23.
It is therefore in black and white and shouldn't cause anybody confusion if they check the rules. However the problem arises that many members and not just Titch were confused as to what they could or could not say and others said that if those had been unfiltered why not the rest. Now this can be seen as quite a valid point to make and so the decision has made in the interests of the members to avoid any confusion and possibly get penalised because of the confusion. A sensible decision as it is not really possible to lift the whole filter on a Habbo Forum. Quite honestly I really don't see the need to swear on the forum anyway.
Can I just clarify that Forum Management are given a considerable about of leeway in regards to the decisions we make. Sammeth regularly gives us advice and opinion but generally allows us to make the decisions we want to make under his guidance, he is in no way controlling and in fact I would say we have the most freedom than ever before. He is, however, perfectly within his rights to make executive decisions above our heads where he feels something needs to be done and should not be criticised directly because of it.
Tough, it was and is a poor decision :/ So when will we see it reversed? Because clearly he nor the forum management seem to know why the action was to refilter and disallow the use of harmless abbreviations. Heck, the fact there were no guidelines posted when it was allowed (even though there shouldnt be the need for guidelines as there are rules already in place for pointless posting and "rudeness"). The fact CBA (with an F at the end) and LMAO (with an F in the middle) are harmless and used in daily life (LMFAO in particular). It's astonishing how petty the management appear to be with something so harmless and petty. Do you not have other things to worry about, like making the rules readable and not a lecture? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Garion
I only agreed with Titch because I believe CB'F' is just a harmless abbreviation which is used uncommonly, mainly because it's common internet knowledge that abbreviations are harmless exaggerations and actions which show the persons emotions or thoughts behind something that is said. No-one says LOL in real life, nor do they roll around the floor laughing, so it's shocking how little the forum management seem to know about net speak, if they think abbreviations are rude and naughty :rolleyes:
He didn't complain about an infraction, he was after some clarity on the rule which led to the discussion of the filter and then, logically, the change you seem so against for no particular reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
That's probably the most stupid thing I've ever seen you say, and I've seen you call Garion clever. All swearing is extremely common on the internet and in real life, so going against "common internet language" makes sense because it's so completely unnecessary to have swearing on here. You know first hand that off this forum I swear just like the next person, but it's no issue at all for me to refrain from it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Yeah you're right, the fact that it was basically allowing swearing on a non-swearing forum is a totally half-arsed excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Fairly sure they do know, everyone else other than you seems to.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Aaaand again, back to the original point. Swearing is common blah blah blah unnecessary blah blah shhhh put your toys back in the pram.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
If it includes swearing then yeah that is kinda rude, do you have a real point that makes sense or did you just want to make a fuss?Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
I only just checked it properly. It's even worse knowing all he did was ask for information which resulted in the pointless removal of common abbreviations.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
And this is possibly the most stupidest thing you've ever said. You clearly did not read what I wrote. I said abbreviations are common on the internet. You're attempting this "let's put words in his mouth" tactic, which is a fools tactic. Abbreviations are common on the internet, indeed. So is swearing. The difference? Swearing is rude, abbreviations are not unless you're an 80 year old lady who finds any informal speech wrong and unGodly ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Abbreviations are not swearing. Fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Shows how much you know. Alot of people have found this to be a poor decision. Read the thread :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Catszy disagreed with sex. about how pointless it was for Titch to enquire about the abbreviation rule, thus resulting in this pointless course of action where someone seems to think abbreviations are rude and swearing. Pyroka even created this thread. So yeah, you appear to be trolling - kicking up a fuss to get off of it. Nothing new there though ;)
What a stupid thing to say. Come back when you've read into what the problem is. Abbreviations are common on the internet. I don't particularly care about the swearing side of internet and this has little to do with swearing, as abbreviations are not a form of swearing. *REMOVED*Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
"Kinda" ;) Are you trolling m'dear? I believe you are. It was a stupid thing to do, refilter the abbreviations, when there has been no problems other than with someone's faulty opinion on them. The thread Titch made was asking for information more than anything, as you so rightly agreed. So why were they refiltered? No reason has been posted, as the forum was reporting little to no problems with OMG with an F, LMAO with an F, ***, SMC etc etc. So yeah, you appear to be trolling. It's quite funny really, this two-faced view coming from you. The way you speak on MSN compared to this is LOL worthy ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Can someone just let Oli and Garion do their jobs? They seem to not understand what is wrong here and it's incredibly rude of Sammeth to take matters into his own hand - using his opinion on the matter rather than any source of actual information :/
Edited by Jamesy (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude to other forum members.