BNP prospective MP & BNP Councillor cause controversy in South Wales

Halal meat is wrong in every way. However you need to remember that if this plant is not in place then the meat can simply be imported from other areas, the demand for Halal meat will still be there whether this plant is there or not. The simple fact is that this plant should be built or the meat will just come from elsewhere. People should be given jobs whether they are black, white or asian, it shouldn't factor it.

I'm sorry JRH but I completely disagree with you. Just because you would consider some of their policies good it doesn't mean you should vote for them. It doesn't detract from the fact that they wish to unjustly prioritise white people above everyone else and clearly don't understand how immigration massively benefits this country through both tax and cheap labour. If you don't believe me then tell me why since immigration has increased so has Economic growth?

To everyone voting BNP, UKIP because of New Labour: Tell me if Labour is so bad why they have overseen the longest period of Economic growth in recorded history which was only ended because of a Global Recession?

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Originally Posted by FlyDuo

Halal meat is wrong in every way. However you need to remember that if this plant is not in place then the meat can simply be imported from other areas, the demand for Halal meat will still be there whether this plant is there or not. The simple fact is that this plant should be built or the meat will just come from elsewhere. People should be given jobs whether they are black, white or asian, it shouldn't factor it.

I'm sorry JRH but I completely disagree with you. Just because you would consider some of their policies good it doesn't mean you should vote for them. It doesn't detract from the fact that they wish to unjustly prioritise white people above everyone else and clearly don't understand how immigration massively benefits this country through both tax and cheap labour. If you don't believe me then tell me why since immigration has increased so has Economic growth?

To everyone voting BNP, UKIP because of New Labour: Tell me if Labour is so bad why they have overseen the longest period of Economic growth in recorded history which was only ended because of a Global Recession?

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That is why many on this forum and around the country have chosen the conservative UK Independance Party over the socialist British National Party. Most people want immigration; I want it, everyone I know wants it. However what yourself, Labour and the other two ruling parties fail to grasp is that we want controlled immigration which does not allow militants into the UK, does not allow people who we do not require into the UK and a system which does not allow criminals into the UK. Now please tell me what is so wrong with that, its a simple request yet the three main parties simply refuse to give us that system we want. The big and vital difference between UKIP & and the BNP is that UKIP wants to allow those who wish to work hard and help our economy and those who want to be part of our way of life to come here whereas the BNP wishes to close the door completely.

The second point; the general well-being of an economy is not down to a government, it is down to global growth in most cases. You say it was a global recession - true yet you fail to mention the fact it was global growth also. I dont blame the government for the recession and I never would, capitalism requires boom and bust to function and whether we had UKIP, the Liberal Democrats or the Greens incharge it would of occured.

What I have conflicts over are;

• The refusal of the government to cut down on the immense waste.
• The ever-rising taxes to fund this immense waste.
• The refusal of government to adopt common sense policies.
• The nationalisation of the banks which has failed as banks are still refusing to lend to small business.

That is what we are annoyed about and that is why we are fed up to the back teeth, we look at the three main parties and we see more of the same although I would applaud your leader Nick Clegg for at least adopting a partly Thatcherite policy in regards to the economy, although it does not go far enough. UKIP on the other hand do go far enough.

Good, the more jobs the better in my opinion. I disagree with halal but think it's hypocritical when these people complain who I doubt eat organic meat. The conditions and methods of killing in slaughterhouses certainly give no cause to take a moral highground.

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Originally Posted by jrh2002

Halal is by far the most inhumane and worst way to kill an animal you could wish for :o If this was not done in the name of a religeon full of hypocrites picking the bits out the kuran that suit them there would be uproar and the the RSPCA would be going crazy.

I agree with the BNP here but believe they should consider being renamed the ENP :o I am sick of the Welsh and the Scots getting extra perks out of the tax pot ALL of britain pays in to. I think its about time England cast off these countries and they stood on their own 2 feet with their own tax systems and then do as they please with their industries.

I find it a little rich from the Welsh shouting about the BNP racists and thats because Wales is the 2nd most racist place I have ever witnessed in my life and the only one I find more racist is Scotland. I spent almost 12 months in Wales and have travelled all over the world so do have a lot to base this accusation on.

I do admit there are a higher percentage of racists in the BNP than most other political parties but they do have some great policies but people just jump straight on them shouting racist even if they were going to do something amazing for ALL of us.

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If you are talking about the welsh nationalists I would agree with you. The majority of them are anti - english but are a very small minority in Wales. I think your opinion is rather over the top though as the majority of people living in Wales are most definitely not. Can't talk about Scotland as I don't know enough about it. As far as the Barnet formula is concerned I would agree with you as it is outdated and needs looking at. Again your views are somewhat over the top as Wales and Scotland are part of the UK unless you want independence for England? By the way I am actually English but live in Wales :P This thread though is about the BNP opposing investment and jobs in Wales - would you begrudge that if you want 'Wales' to stand on it's own two feet? What amazing thing could the BNP do for us all ?

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Originally Posted by FlyDuo

I'm sorry JRH but I completely disagree with you. Just because you would consider some of their policies good it doesn't mean you should vote for them. It doesn't detract from the fact that they wish to unjustly prioritise white people above everyone else and clearly don't understand how immigration massively benefits this country through both tax and cheap labour. If you don't believe me then tell me why since immigration has increased so has Economic growth?

To everyone voting BNP, UKIP because of New Labour: Tell me if Labour is so bad why they have overseen the longest period of Economic growth in recorded history which was only ended because of a Global Recession?

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Immigration is fine and much needed as long as that person comes here to contribute to society and fill skilled jobs where we are lacking numbers and expertese from our very own UK citizens. We have so many economical migrants/immigrants/illegal immigrants who have rolled up here and claim our benefits from the pot they have never paid in to so is that ok? I wish to put all UK tax payers before any freeloader be it an immigrant or a benefits claimer.
The more I feel that I am being let down by this country the more sympathetic I get towards the BNP like millions of others will so if us law abiding tax payers dont stop being taken for mugs we will revolt and if that upsets people then good. The amount of support the BNP are starting to get must make the big parties realise they need to put things right before it does end in disaster.

The economic growth you talk about was built on a bubble of borrowing and pumping money in and making all these quangos etc which lowered unemployment by giving people jobs that really were never needed to exist. Look at the NHS employing 3 times the amount of management to the amount of people on the floor like the nurses and doctors :s is that right? The bubble of debt got so big of course it was going to go POP. When labour got in to power look at the level of debt the country had and also look at the level of debt there was when they got in the time before that :o now look at the level of debt they left last time they were voted out and also how much we are in now. Spend spend spend instead of save in the good times and have plenty to keep us afloat in the bad.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

If you are talking about the welsh nationalists I would agree with you. The majority of them are anti - english but are a very small minority in Wales. I think your opinion is rather over the top though as the majority of people living in Wales are most definitely not. Can't talk about Scotland as I don't know enough about it. As far as the Barnet formula is concerned I would agree with you as it is outdated and needs looking at. Again your views are somewhat over the top as Wales and Scotland are part of the UK unless you want independence for England? By the way I am actually English but live in Wales :P This thread though is about the BNP opposing investment and jobs in Wales - would you begrudge that if you want 'Wales' to stand on it's own two feet? What amazing thing could the BNP do for us all ?

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I dont agree with halal being allowed to be produced in the UK and believe they should have to import it if they want it here. I want all us tax payers treating the same if we all pay in and take out of the same pot :) If Scotland have free uni and the welsh free prescriptions then that is just wrong when the english who pay the majority of tax pay all this money out :o so its either equal for all or else I would like an independent England and then I can say I am English without being told it no longer exists and I am british. The Barnett formula is just a joke thought up by drunks i think lol. Of course Wales can do what it likes with its industry and should thank the BNP for highlighting this because when the factory does open there will be a lot of eyes on who it employs which will now have to be a fairer mixture of people instead of a top heavy amount of muslims that is what probably would have happened without this song and dance. If the UK is not equal for every tax payer like it should be and gives one countries people high cost benefits over another countries people then surely the only option would be to split up the UK? Seems what europe want and tried to do for 100s of years.

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Originally Posted by jrh2002

Immigration is fine and much needed as long as that person comes here to contribute to society and fill skilled jobs where we are lacking numbers and expertese from our very own UK citizens. We have so many economical migrants/immigrants/illegal immigrants who have rolled up here and claim our benefits from the pot they have never paid in to so is that ok? I wish to put all UK tax payers before any freeloader be it an immigrant or a benefits claimer.
The more I feel that I am being let down by this country the more sympathetic I get towards the BNP like millions of others will so if us law abiding tax payers dont stop being taken for mugs we will revolt and if that upsets people then good. The amount of support the BNP are starting to get must make the big parties realise they need to put things right before it does end in disaster.

The economic growth you talk about was built on a bubble of borrowing and pumping money in and making all these quangos etc which lowered unemployment by giving people jobs that really were never needed to exist. Look at the NHS employing 3 times the amount of management to the amount of people on the floor like the nurses and doctors :s is that right? The bubble of debt got so big of course it was going to go POP. When labour got in to power look at the level of debt the country had and also look at the level of debt there was when they got in the time before that :o now look at the level of debt they left last time they were voted out and also how much we are in now. Spend spend spend instead of save in the good times and have plenty to keep us afloat in the bad.



I dont agree with halal being allowed to be produced in the UK and believe they should have to import it if they want it here. I want all us tax payers treating the same if we all pay in and take out of the same pot :) If Scotland have free uni and the welsh free prescriptions then that is just wrong when the english who pay the majority of tax pay all this money out :o so its either equal for all or else I would like an independent England and then I can say I am English without being told it no longer exists and I am british. The Barnett formula is just a joke thought up by drunks i think lol. Of course Wales can do what it likes with its industry and should thank the BNP for highlighting this because when the factory does open there will be a lot of eyes on who it employs which will now have to be a fairer mixture of people instead of a top heavy amount of muslims that is what probably would have happened without this song and dance. If the UK is not equal for every tax payer like it should be and gives one countries people high cost benefits over another countries people then surely the only option would be to split up the UK? Seems what europe want and tried to do for 100s of years.

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A well constructed post some of which I agree with. Free prescriptions are great but don't assume it comes from the extra money as our NHS waiting lists are a lot longer. But the Barnet formula should be scrapped as there are just as many 'deprived areas in England ' They do waste a lot of money down here on pouring millions into a 100% equal welsh/english language where less than 20% actually speak fluently it and less write it. They should spend the money proportinate to the amount who do speak it. I will probably get flamed for that! Don't agree that the factory would have employed a majority of muslims as they have made a statement to the reverse and I do not have any basis to think they are lying. Its not the opposition so much as the scare mongering attached to it particularly from the BNP councillor.