UKIP candidate suspended over racist comments

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Originally Posted by Dander

Majority of the older members of this forum - who can actually vote - support Labour. Wonder why ...

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Really?

Where the proof?

Out of your bum?

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

That's the problem. They can't see to get any realistic perspective. If he has said extremist terrorist muslims who want to bomb and kill people using their faith as an excuse that would be fine. I also think there should be a debate about immigration then we will see exactly what they mean or don't mean.

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The muslim nutters was slang, hes not a professional politician but the party took the right action. UKIP has a clear policy on immigration, so what do you really think the policy is? - are you implying that we want to ban all muslims/blacks - if so, quite frankly your just one of the many who are pushing people to the extreme right (the BNP) because when they attempt to be moderate (UKIP) they are just called/made out to be racists.

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Originally Posted by Dander

UKIP are a dream party and unfornatunately you are naive enough to believe them. And ofcourse I can say that about UT that he doesn't see Labour's positives.
Majority of the older members of this forum - who can actually vote - support Labour. Wonder why ...

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I do see Labours positives; the continuation of the Trident nuclear missile defence. The points you make are quite frankly childish and i'd expect someone whos older than myself to give some good points and at least challenge me on some policy points - it doesnt matter what age they [people] are, infact while we are at it I presume that all your family vote Labour hence why you also vote Labour - that is not the case for most UKIP supporters because its a small party which is growing and growing at every election. That is all irrelvent anyway to the debate, the debates on here should be about policy and not things like the age of forum members which shows desperation to prove some sort of a point to everybody.

Every single Labour point you make, I always reply and say what I feel about it. Now lets talk immigration then and get something started; UKIP want to introduce a tight immigration system which will bar criminals/people of skills we do not need/those financially incapable of handling themselves from gaining entry to the United Kingdom

Now do you agree or disagree with that UKIP policy on immigration?

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Originally Posted by Jayme

What ill say to you Dander sir, is write a letter to Mr Brown and ask him to help out Middlesbrough, then ill have faith in the labour party.

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I wrote to my local labour mp and he helped me out straight away (woo go boro!).... well, until he died anyway. :(

I don't vote for UKIP but I agree with previous posters who say that one politican can't represent the entire party.

My local (Labour) MP has pretty much being helping my family since I was born. Helping my grandmother getting housing before I was born, helping my mother get housing when I was older, I interviewed him for the school, wrote to him about a few bothering things.

He's retiring this election, John Battle, and he's pretty much the most honest (and only) politician I've ever met.

Since he's going, along with Labour, it's only right for a new government to take its place. Out with the old, in with the new.

As offtopic as it gets really.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

The muslim nutters was slang, hes not a professional politician but the party took the right action. UKIP has a clear policy on immigration, so what do you really think the policy is? - are you implying that we want to ban all muslims/blacks - if so, quite frankly your just one of the many who are pushing people to the extreme right (the BNP) because when they attempt to be moderate (UKIP) they are just called/made out to be racists.

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No not at all I am saying they should word their press releases better so there can be no doubt as to what they mean.Too many male chicken ups and the moment. :P

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

No not at all I am saying they should word their press releases better so there can be no doubt as to what they mean. Too many male chicken ups and the moment. :P

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My bad as i've misread it obviously, apologies. :)

On the point of local MPs and councillors thats developed here;- my local MP (who is standing down this May) is Labour and he's the total opposite to my views however I respect him because he stands by his values over things such as the invasion of Iraq and isn't afraid to stand upto the offical party line - now thats an MP you can have some faith in. The guy in question in this epidsode (Peter Wiffen of UKIP) has now resigned as he made comments about the Queen as well it appears; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...nd/8620684.stm

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I presume that all your family vote Labour hence why you also vote Labour

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You are wrong :) I actually don't really know who my parents support. I doubt my brother gives a crap. So nope, I am not supporting Labour because my family is. I have challenged you on many policies, but unfortunately you just dodge them and make excuses, which gets a little annoying after a while. I therefore stop replying as you keep repeating yourself and keep avoiding questions. Then you think you have won, when in fact you haven't :).

Tell me Undertaker, do you want to stop people from other countries coming here for a job for the next 5 years?

I like how must of the debate between the hyper politically literate (compliment) is largely just "OMG STOP DODGING, DODGIN! I DIDN'T DODGE!"

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Originally Posted by Apeel

I like how must of the debate between the hyper politically literate (compliment) is largely just "OMG STOP DODGING, DODGIN! I DIDN'T DODGE!"

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Unfortunately, the fact is, thats what UT does alot of the time.

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Originally Posted by Dander

You are wrong :) I actually don't really know who my parents support. I doubt my brother gives a crap. So nope, I am not supporting Labour because my family is. I have challenged you on many policies, but unfortunately you just dodge them and make excuses, which gets a little annoying after a while. I therefore stop replying as you keep repeating yourself and keep avoiding questions. Then you think you have won, when in fact you haven't :).

Tell me Undertaker, do you want to stop people from other countries coming here for a job for the next 5 years?

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Originally Posted by Dander

Unfortunately, the fact is, thats what UT does alot of the time.

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No i'm sorry I do not dodge topics, I often end up asking you for a straight reply over and over again in debates to which you never seem to reply. So i'm glad your now getting involed in the immigration debate for once so i'll reply now; visas exist so people would not be prevented from coming here for a job over the 5-year freeze.