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Lol cod style, he had a throwing knife and everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen
It was a sentence to basically describe how much of a joke the yank firearm mentality is, guns = gangs.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStratocas
English people don't want to end up with a country which replicates the USA, most urban areas in the states have gang members, fact.
Your from NY, you should know this.
i pack two guns with me all the time
youre right, i do live in new york, so i think i'd know the situation here better than someone half way across the world. while it is undeniable we have a serious firearm problem, its pretty ridiculous to say that everyone who owns a firearm is in a gang. and most urban areas EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD have gangs. its a typical symptom of highly populated areas. so your "fact" was incomplete. the reason why there's more gun violence in american urban areas is because there are actually guns available -- if the same availability existed everywhere else it would be exactly the same. the mentality is the same everywhere, the only thing that is different is what tools are used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayme
yeah yeah i understand we do have exponentially more gun deaths than any other country, but suggesting that you cant turn a corner without seeing a gang member is just dumb. in ratio theres no more gang members here than anywhere else.
No disrespect to the victims or anything, but this was just a one off. I mean sure, there's still a bit of gun crime in the UK, but it's not anything to raise concerns.
It's still a lot better than USA, they can have one for protection.. but the only thing they need a gun for protection is against other people with a gun.. who got theirs for protection? But hey, thats America!
I agree and for once I agree with David Cameron, we shouldn't have a knee-jerk reaction to this. It is a one off and events like this are much more common in countries like America where large numbers of the population own firearms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack120
Maybe you do know the situation better than me because you live in the states, i don't know. If you read my posts correctly you would see that i'm NOT saying that everybody who owns a gun is a gang member, i'm saying the increase in LEGALLY obtained guns would lead to ILLEGALLY obtained guns and lead to alot more gang's in the UK because of the firearm black market. Its ridiculous to say that this wouldn't happen, the UK already has an underworld wich consists of drugs, gangs and guns - but having every normal law abiding citizen carry one would make this crime underworld turn mainstream.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStratocas
Guns are easily available in different places across the globe yet its always the yanks that we hear about shooting each other for nothing? You lot have a serious gun problem and its needs sorting out.
To say my post was dumb when you haven't even read it properly, is hilarious. Please find some evidence that suggests the USA has the same ratio of gang members than another country?
Your country is rife with gangs and guns, admit it.
This is what i thought when i heard about it! I see no reason for anyone to need to own a gun, apart from farmers really, but at the end of the day, why do they need them? In my opinion guns should be banned from the country all together.
I disagree, it's not asif they just hand them out to anybody lunatic who wants one.
I totally agree. Hunting shouldn't even be a sport, every time someone gets a gun something bad happens, this time it was really bad!
Erm, yeah...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibs960
My opinion on hunting is that if what you hunt can be killed swiftly and is good to eat (it will save you from eating factory meat for that day, if the animal is good sport it is still fine), for example, North American wild Turkey. An example in Britain is Deer or Pheasant etc. Things I don't agree with are ones where the animal is killed JUST for sport, like Foxes.