Account clear-out

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Originally Posted by Jin

The point of the perm ban isn't to keep people away from the site, it is so they realised they really messed up, as a result of the perm ban they lose their stats in form of rep, post count, subscriptions and status (in terms of how well known they are as they have lost their username also).

By merging the accounts it would completely defeat this purpose.

If someone gets permed they can create a new account, if they start messing around on that then that account get permed.

If it reaches a point where it is the evident the person has no intention of keeping to the rules they will just be permed and put on the auto-ban list where the objective is to keep them away. I certainly don't fancy seeing some of the old faces back on this forum if they were stupid enough to get perm banned then I don't see why we should let them back on, then again there are those cases where people get banned for things that were dealt with more harshly back then. Such as reopened a thread that has been closed by a mod.

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This is where it can get confusing as to who was banned for what reasons. It's basically just whatever gave the final blow. You could of got the majority of your infraction points from serious things such as posting inappropriate content and avoiding the filter, but then the final infraction point which auto perm bans the account comes from something petty like re-opening a thread. But this being said, in my opinion it's not the reason a user was banned that matters, it's whether or not they have matured and you think they are worthy of a second chance.

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Originally Posted by Jin

The point of the perm ban isn't to keep people away from the site, it is so they realised they really messed up, as a result of the perm ban they lose their stats in form of rep, post count, subscriptions and status (in terms of how well known they are as they have lost their username also).

By merging the accounts it would completely defeat this purpose.

If someone gets permed they can create a new account, if they start messing around on that then that account get permed.

If it reaches a point where it is the evident the person has no intention of keeping to the rules they will just be permed and put on the auto-ban list where the objective is to keep them away. I certainly don't fancy seeing some of the old faces back on this forum if they were stupid enough to get perm banned then I don't see why we should let them back on, then again there are those cases where people get banned for things that were dealt with more harshly back then. Such as reopened a thread that has been closed by a mod.

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This is the kind of view that is runing habbox in my opinion. You seem to be in the old mindset of dont give secone chances, people dont change, do things the old way, old way works best. to be frank, No it doesnt anymore. Habbox needs a complete fresh re-start. You have to remember this forum is for TEENAGERS, Teenagers act out, teenagers make mistakes, its what they do and its the way you learn in life. I certainly know if i hadnt of make the mistakes i made during my rebel stage, i wouldnt be the better person i am today. You have to give teenagers a chance to proove they have learnt from their mistakes, which you just dont ever seem to want to do.

If habbox wants to be here in future years to come, they need to come into the 21st century with there way of doing things and start a-fresh and reistablish itself within the habbo community. I can guartnee 95% of permed and autobanned people woulf come back a changed person and alot of them using there experience to help the community not go there way, as shown by Several very respected and high up figures of this forum (eg Oli, Nemo, Robbie just off top of my head). The other 5% that do come back and start to cause trouble, we they can just be picked off very quickly and got ridden off.

Simple fact is if you dont do something, Habbox will NOT ne here in years to come. FACT

Im for a mass un-ban.

People change, yes you can be immature and a trouble maker at one point (and get permed), but that person isn't necessarily going to be immature and a trouble maker 1-2 years down the line?
Surely if the user has proven that they have passed their worse, and are willing to contribute well and help the forum (like for instance immense), then unbanning surely isn't wrong?

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Originally Posted by Returning

This is the kind of view that is runing habbox in my opinion. You seem to be in the old mindset of dont give secone chances, people dont change, do things the old way, old way works best. to be frank, No it doesnt anymore. Habbox needs a complete fresh re-start. You have to remember this forum is for TEENAGERS, Teenagers act out, teenagers make mistakes, its what they do and its the way you learn in life. I certainly know if i hadnt of make the mistakes i made during my rebel stage, i wouldnt be the better person i am today. You have to give teenagers a chance to proove they have learnt from their mistakes, which you just dont ever seem to want to do.

If habbox wants to be here in future years to come, they need to come into the 21st century with there way of doing things and start a-fresh and reistablish itself within the habbo community. I can guartnee 95% of permed and autobanned people woulf come back a changed person and alot of them using there experience to help the community not go there way, as shown by Several very respected and high up figures of this forum (eg Oli, Nemo, Robbie just off top of my head). The other 5% that do come back and start to cause trouble, we they can just be picked off very quickly and got ridden off.

Simple fact is if you dont do something, Habbox will NOT ne here in years to come. FACT

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You make some good points. Also I couldn't help but wonder who you are as you don't really sound to be new here. xD

I want to retract what I said earlier anyway. Obviously, I want to be unbanned but it's not a determining factor in me staying here. I enjoy using Habbox. I think people should be unbanned too but I do see what Richie / Jin say when they say the ban was placed at that time for a reason and removing it makes it pointless. Although, I think the fact people can change and should be allowed their original accounts back outweighs this argument. It's unfair some people get unbanned / uncautioned and others don't in my opinion. If you're permed for having 10 infractions why should your ban be removed as opposed to somebody elses.

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Originally Posted by Apple

You make some good points. Also I couldn't help but wonder who you are as you don't really sound to be new here. xD

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Its titch. Still Iped and Autobanned. *watches this account get banned*

Also i think just from this post you can see i have matured, becuase we all know i would never post something like that before.

TO MODS: Approve this post before u ban me, becuase they deserve to knw who post was from and its giving POSITIVE feedback not negative :)

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Originally Posted by Returning

Its titch. Still Iped and Autobanned. *watches this account get banned*

Also i think just from this post you can see i have matured, becuase we all know i would never post something like that before.

TO MODS: Approve this post before u ban me, becuase they deserve to knw who post was from and its giving POSITIVE feedback not negative :)

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And now you are banned :(

I'm still for the idea of a mass unban, it'd be great seeing old faces coming back and it's not hard to ban some people but I doubt many would actually cause trouble again.

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Originally Posted by immense

People like Hecktix / Robbie / Alkaz / -:Undertaker:- / Neversoft / NaughtyNemo / Spuds / Milestone have all had previous accounts permed and now are some of the most influential members on the forum. There are much more success stories on the forum of people being unbanned (although some of the mentioned haven't) than people being ubanned and messing it up.

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Oh ssh Jake you are making us all blush :P I know myself, Neversoft and Spuds are just high posters but you know lol.

And remember none of my accounts are permed! :P

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I do not believe a mass unban is needed - however I think some users should be unbanned, and although I don't always agree with Jake, he is one of the users who I would consider unbanning as he offers so much activity to habbox - and he isn't getting cautioned/banned on his current account.

I also believe that users with no posts and havent logged in in over a year, should have their accounts deleted.

Or perhaps, invite users back, using that magical power you have in EMAILING the users.

You were permed though. This is my point. People can come back and be constructive / 'good' members.