LimeWire Shuts Down After Losing Court Battle With The RIAA

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

It wasn't destroying it anyway, its a well known fact illegal down loaders are more likely to actually buy music and so on then other people.

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no? that statistic doesnt mean anything. they key part of that 'fact' is more likely. the internet has in a way helped the industry (promotion etc) but it has also taken a lot of money of it. just look at the average sales for albums. since 2000, sales have been absolutely bombing, because people can download an album for free instead of forking out £9 or whatever

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Originally Posted by Haaaaarry

no? that statistic doesnt mean anything. they key part of that 'fact' is more likely. the internet has in a way helped the industry (promotion etc) but it has also taken a lot of money of it. just look at the average sales for albums. since 2000, sales have been absolutely bombing, because people can download an album for free instead of forking out £9 or whatever

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And even so, artists are rolling in money. Honestly i dont see what the issue is. Unless its an indie artist, then i see no reason not to pirate.

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Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo

And even so, artists are rolling in money. Honestly i dont see what the issue is. Unless its an indie artist, then i see no reason not to pirate.

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not as much as you think, thats quite ignorant. unless you sell a lot you dont get barely any money from record sales. most artists get the majority of their income from touring. its especially difficult for new artists to break through and earn a living, because they won't have a loyal fanbase yet that will run out to the shops and buy their records, people will just download them

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Originally Posted by Haaaaarry

not as much as you think, thats quite ignorant. unless you sell a lot you dont get barely any money from record sales. most artists get the majority of their income from touring. its especially difficult for new artists to break through and earn a living, because they won't have a loyal fanbase yet that will run out to the shops and buy their records, people will just download them

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Exactly, they make most of their money from touring anyway so it doesn't matter if they lose a few sales. I'm not saying its a good thing that people pirate but there's no need to get super angry over it.

And for a new artist to think they're going to make their living off music through record sales is incredibly naive so that doesn't really matter

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Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo

Exactly, they make most of their money from touring anyway so it doesn't matter if they lose a few sales. I'm not saying its a good thing that people pirate but there's no need to get super angry over it.

And for a new artist to think they're going to make their living off music through record sales is incredibly naive so that doesn't really matter

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im not getting angry about it, it doesnt affect me. but its a fact that the internet and illegal downloading is harming the music industry. its not even just the artist, its all the people that work for the labels. where do you think their money comes from? and its not just a "few" sales, its a very large percentage.

that last sentence of yours basically sums up what im saying. if this was 30 years ago it wouldnt be naive to think that, but today it would. because of the internet.

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Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo

Exactly, they make most of their money from touring anyway so it doesn't matter if they lose a few sales. I'm not saying its a good thing that people pirate but there's no need to get super angry over it.

And for a new artist to think they're going to make their living off music through record sales is incredibly naive so that doesn't really matter

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Its the same with movies, they make profit just from the box office, before decent illegal copies are even available.

Illegal downloading hardly harms the music/movie industry.

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Originally Posted by Moh

Illegal downloading hardly harms the music/movie industry.

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LOL
well it does

http://www.billboard.com/news/album-...04095638.story

Studios and recording companies were worried tapes and VHS were going to see the death of them, the same went for CDs and now they're worried about the internet.

It's same old, same old. They moan and moan yet still roll in money. If anything, the corporations are to blame for giving so little of the sales money to the artists themselves.

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

Or an even better alternative; don't be a **** and buy your music/films/TV instead of illegally downloading them. If you can't afford whatever then wait until you can or don't buy it, just like how everything else in life works.

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LOL NO FNX. BRB PIRATING.

i am not going to pay for something i don't have to, end of.

I only pay for movies and games. Music isnt that good that i'd pay £8-£9 for about 9 songs which in all seriousness id only like 1 for half a week.

WinMX was the ultimate music download client back in the day.