Can the police be trusted?

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16-01-2011, 03:25 PM
Nationalism

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Originally Posted by Conservative

I've never had a bad experience with cops. They all seem friendly round my area, just a tad lazy. I've seen year 8s walk out of school smoking and CSO (Community Support Officers) on the other side of the road ignoring it, having a nice chit-chat about eastenders or whatever. I mean I know they're not full police but I thought it was their jobs to get rid of that stuff?

So, to answer the question - yes I can trust police and I think it's silly not to. Even if you have personal experiences, that's one policeman/woman. There are thousands. You can't say a kid is bad because they wear the same shirt as a bully you know. You can't say a cop is corrupt because one happened to give you a bad experience, who knows - maybe you deserved it?

Actually you can say a kid is bad because the local bully wears the same t-shirt - it's called stereotyping people.
Just because somebody is a police officer doesn't mean somebody can't stereotype him as a heavy handed, corrupt officer.
Also PCSOs are an absolute waste of time and money, they can't even arrest you.

Nobody deserves to be brutally man handled by a police officer, it's our right as a citizen and whether or not we committed a crime is not relevant - innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
In my own personal experience of being mis-treated by a police officer, the officer was pulling my clothes (because he didn't like the way i was wearing them), making offensive remarks about my belongings and clothing and proceeded to bang my head off a metal fence - justify that?
16-01-2011, 04:06 PM
Moh

From past experience with the police, I trust them.

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Originally Posted by Nationalism

Actually you can say a kid is bad because the local bully wears the same t-shirt - it's called stereotyping people.
Just because somebody is a police officer doesn't mean somebody can't stereotype him as a heavy handed, corrupt officer.
Also PCSOs are an absolute waste of time and money, they can't even arrest you.

Nobody deserves to be brutally man handled by a police officer, it's our right as a citizen and whether or not we committed a crime is not relevant - innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
In my own personal experience of being mis-treated by a police officer, the officer was pulling my clothes (because he didn't like the way i was wearing them), making offensive remarks about my belongings and clothing and proceeded to bang my head off a metal fence - justify that?

Which country are you from? o.O
16-01-2011, 04:10 PM
AgnesIO

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Originally Posted by Nationalism

Actually you can say a kid is bad because the local bully wears the same t-shirt - it's called stereotyping people.
Just because somebody is a police officer doesn't mean somebody can't stereotype him as a heavy handed, corrupt officer.
Also PCSOs are an absolute waste of time and money, they can't even arrest you.

Nobody deserves to be brutally man handled by a police officer, it's our right as a citizen and whether or not we committed a crime is not relevant - innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
In my own personal experience of being mis-treated by a police officer, the officer was pulling my clothes (because he didn't like the way i was wearing them), making offensive remarks about my belongings and clothing and proceeded to bang my head off a metal fence - justify that?

Not sure if I believe this, if it was in Britain.

And personally, I prefer the Scottish court way. Guilt until proven Innocent.
16-01-2011, 04:33 PM
Nationalism

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Originally Posted by Moh

From past experience with the police, I trust them.
Which country are you from? o.O

Britain.

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Originally Posted by Milestone

Not sure if I believe this, if it was in Britain.
And personally, I prefer the Scottish court way. Guilt until proven Innocent.

Yes, because i'd lie about something like that. If was for a pretty serious offence which me and some buds were supposedly meant to have committed, until we were proven innocent of course. He caught me running then proceeded to make comments, rag my clothes and push me - very good policing however i don't say all police are like that because they're obviously not.
I think the moment kind of over-took him as, like i said, it was for a pretty serious offence - one of which i was a found innocent.

If you believe guilty until proven innocent then you are very silly, you'd be the first to criticise if you were arrested, actually innocent but treated like a criminal whilst you were arrested.
16-01-2011, 04:44 PM
AgnesIO

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Originally Posted by Nationalism

Britain.

Yes, because i'd lie about something like that. If was for a pretty serious offence which me and some buds were supposedly meant to have committed, until we were proven innocent of course. He caught me running then proceeded to make comments, rag my clothes and push me - very good policing however i don't say all police are like that because they're obviously not.
I think the moment kind of over-took him as, like i said, it was for a pretty serious offence - one of which i was a found innocent.

If you believe guilty until proven innocent then you are very silly, you'd be the first to criticise if you were arrested, actually innocent but treated like a criminal whilst you were arrested.

That's the thing. I don't socialise or do things which could get me arrested.

The police in England are far too soft.
16-01-2011, 06:12 PM
Nationalism

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Originally Posted by Milestone

That's the thing. I don't socialise or do things which could get me arrested.

The police in England are far too soft.

Neither do i, like i have stated numerous times now - i was proven innocent, so take your little comment back.

The police are not too soft at all, judges are sentences are.
16-01-2011, 06:16 PM
AgnesIO

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Originally Posted by Nationalism

Neither do i, like i have stated numerous times now - i was proven innocent, so take your little comment back.

The police are not too soft at all, judges are sentences are.

I don't believe a police man just beat the **** out of you. If he did, he wouldn't be in his job now.

Judges sentences are too soft. Police don't have enough power.
16-01-2011, 07:05 PM
Nationalism

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Originally Posted by Milestone

I don't believe a police man just beat the **** out of you. If he did, he wouldn't be in his job now.

Judges sentences are too soft. Police don't have enough power.

I didn't say a police officer beat me up, i said he shoved my head against a metal fence - there's a difference.
I wouldn't come to HxF and lie.

Policing powers are fine, although some things needs addressing, it's the courts, judges and sentences that need looking at.
16-01-2011, 09:37 PM
Arch

Milestone you put far to much faith in police,
they're human, just like you or me when we get mad we might hit someone - if you make an officer chase you theres a good chance hes gonna hit you at the end of it
16-01-2011, 09:48 PM
AgnesIO

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Originally Posted by Arch

Milestone you put far to much faith in police,
they're human, just like you or me when we get mad we might hit someone - if you make an officer chase you theres a good chance hes gonna hit you at the end of it

I don't have 'too much faith in the police' - I just know when I need help, they will help me.

That is all what ever has, and ever will matter to me.

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