Staff Returning

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Originally Posted by Wiizzz

Managers always work towards that. However, at that moment in time, you want the best people leading your department so you can make it better for your successor which you've trained up.

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yeah in this case its the right thing to do, but it has happened plenty before where there is good staff in waiting.

and above a few, it's a feedback thread about how staff are brought back, opinions, views.

& I mentioned recursion, thought it was him who returned as smod. still regardless he was a quality mod. I retract that previous line of argument.

I suppose now would be a bad time for me to request to return to HxHD then, huh!

Habbox needs to appoint the people who are best for the job, who will make the department the most successful and allow it to thrive the most.

It's just like in real life where the successful applicants are the ones most qualified, and best capable to assume a position within the organization. Habbox's goal is to maintain its popularity, and be successful. Unfortunately if promotions were purely based on fairness and determined based off who's been within the department for the longest duration of time, that wouldn't guarantee the best possibility for success.

The world is about experience. If I had the chance I would hire Bill Gates or Richard Branson over Uncle Bob, who wouldn't compare to their managerial experience and what not. On your CV, you will get hired based on experience, who cares if there's some new guy freshly graduated from Uni wanting the job, I'd give it to the old bloke with a proven track record, if they had similar qualifications.

Obviously, Habbox functions differently to reality. But I would like to think that with someone in power as a motivator and leader, who has done it before and knows exactly what a department needs and how it needs it, is what I would take priority for, than someone who say could do a decent job, but would not be the best possible solution

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Originally Posted by Grig

The world is about experience. If I had the chance I would hire Bill Gates or Richard Branson over Uncle Bob, who wouldn't compare to their managerial experience and what not. On your CV, you will get hired based on experience, who cares if this some new guy freshly graduated from Uni wanting the job, I'd give it to the old bloke with a proven track record.

Obviously, Habbox functions differently to reality. But I would like to think that with someone in power as a motivator and leader, who has done it before and knows exactly what a department needs and how it needs it, is what I would take priority for, than someone who say could do a decent job, but would not be the best possible solution

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The problem is, how do the managers KNOW that people in their department have never been Senior at other sites?

I for one have managed or been senior at 20+ sites but people don't ask me. I think the best way to go about it, if I'm honest, is applications. A few sites do that, but it just shows who actually DOES have experience, not who you THINK does. Because you never know, Uncle Bob in the corner could be Steve Jobs. So not only do you find out who actually has done that job before, but who WANTS it. Sometimes, although admittedly rarely, people don't WANT to be senior. Maybe because they don't have the time, or because the think someone else deserves it more.

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Originally Posted by Grig

The world is about experience. If I had the chance I would hire Bill Gates or Richard Branson over Uncle Bob, who wouldn't compare to their managerial experience and what not. On your CV, you will get hired based on experience, who cares if this some new guy freshly graduated from Uni wanting the job, I'd give it to the old bloke with a proven track record, if they had similar qualifications.

Obviously, Habbox functions differently to reality. But I would like to think that with someone in power as a motivator and leader, who has done it before and knows exactly what a department needs and how it needs it, is what I would take priority for, than someone who say could do a decent job, but would not be the best possible solution

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And you've also got to prepare for the future. You say track records, but people joining and leaving isn't an amazing track record, doesn't show good stability. I can only comment on what I see publically as I've never been staff but things should be built up when there's a strong current base. Like insecuriosity(sp from memory) said, it's like future managers, build them.

@robbie- habbox is a whole different ball game, imo.

lol I do love me some feedback threads on staff returning in higher positions.
1) They just make people feel bad
2) Most of the time they work out well e.g Oli, Martin and Jess.
3) If people who jump to a senior position quick they must have gained trust to be in such a position and might also have the experience.

It depends on the following really: the situation, person and the timing.

Oliver and Martin returned in a higher position and have been doing an excellent job with it. It made quite a lot of sense with their promotions as they both had admin in the past and are obviously trusted and they had a hell lot of experience.

I see no problem with this really, people just invent silly little problems.

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Originally Posted by Grig

The world is about experience. If I had the chance I would hire Bill Gates or Richard Branson over Uncle Bob, who wouldn't compare to their managerial experience and what not. On your CV, you will get hired based on experience, who cares if there's some new guy freshly graduated from Uni wanting the job, I'd give it to the old bloke with a proven track record, if they had similar qualifications.

Obviously, Habbox functions differently to reality. But I would like to think that with someone in power as a motivator and leader, who has done it before and knows exactly what a department needs and how it needs it, is what I would take priority for, than someone who say could do a decent job, but would not be the best possible solution

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How do you know that Uncle Bob isn't going to be the next Richard Branson or the next Bill Gates? He could have ideas Bill Gates or Richard Branson have never dreamed of - and that's saying something - and you wouldn't know because you've never had the guts to find out. Despite that, if it was real life with money at risk, I'd obviously not choose Uncle Bob either but Habbox 'functions differently to reality' and therefore we are able to take more risks and reap the benefits if that risk pays off. If not, you learn from your mistakes. :)

edit: oh btw, I'm talking about positions like Senior DJ etc not Assistant General Managers which are expected to be at Habbox for a long period of time to really make a substantial impact whereas staff like senior djs are less 'irreplaceable'

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Originally Posted by Conservative,

The problem is, how do the managers KNOW that people in their department have never been Senior at other sites?

I for one have managed or been senior at 20+ sites but people don't ask me. I think the best way to go about it, if I'm honest, is applications. A few sites do that, but it just shows who actually DOES have experience, not who you THINK does. Because you never know, Uncle Bob in the corner could be Steve Jobs. So not only do you find out who actually has done that job before, but who WANTS it. Sometimes, although admittedly rarely, people don't WANT to be senior. Maybe because they don't have the time, or because the think someone else deserves it more.

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Because that's where the dedication to Habbox factor comes in, we don't take people left, right and centre from the streets. They've been there before, we know they have and we know how well of a job they have done.

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Originally Posted by Callum.

And you've also got to prepare for the future. You say track records, but people joining and leaving isn't an amazing track record, doesn't show good stability. I can only comment on what I see publically as I've never been staff but things should be built up when there's a strong current base. Like insecuriosity(sp from memory) said, it's like future managers, build them.

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Well, you got to consider various factors, I would have to say it's a complex interplay. People just continuously joining and leaving will also be noticed and am sure won't get a job as easily.

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Originally Posted by Conservative,

The problem is, how do the managers KNOW that people in their department have never been Senior at other sites?

I for one have managed or been senior at 20+ sites but people don't ask me. I think the best way to go about it, if I'm honest, is applications. A few sites do that, but it just shows who actually DOES have experience, not who you THINK does. Because you never know, Uncle Bob in the corner could be Steve Jobs. So not only do you find out who actually has done that job before, but who WANTS it. Sometimes, although admittedly rarely, people don't WANT to be senior. Maybe because they don't have the time, or because the think someone else deserves it more.

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If a person has been management or senior on other fansites, that's nice to know and good for them in my opinion. You have to show your dedication and how much work you can do and what not while you are working for Habbox. Not while you worked for any other fansite, as that dedication could of dropped between them going from Fansite A to Fansite B.

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

How do you know that Uncle Bob isn't going to be the next Richard Branson or the next Bill Gates? He could have ideas Bill Gates or Richard Branson have never dreamed of - and that's saying something - and you wouldn't know because you've never had the guts to find out. Despite that, if it was real life with money at risk, I'd obviously not choose Uncle Bob either but Habbox 'functions differently to reality' and therefore we are able to take more risks and reap the benefits if that risk pays off. If not, you learn from your mistakes. :)

edit: oh btw, I'm talking about positions like Senior DJ etc not Assistant General Managers which are expected to be at Habbox for a long period of time to really make a substantial impact whereas staff like senior djs are less 'irreplaceable'

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Senior DJs are also not found here and there on the streets, trust me. It takes a long time to work there, and to show you can be trusted with such a capacity. Obviously with recent changes it's been different, but we'll discount that fact.