The Human Centipede II - UK Release BANNED

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Originally Posted by Misawa

I've no intention of doing that. I never have and never will for any film.

However, the censorship will result in those who can't see it using the internet to illegally download it, unless Six compromises and makes cuts. That's just bad business.

Six shot the film in London but he didn't make it to meet guidelines. Why would he shoot a film in a way that ensured the BBFC would approve? He's got the US market to consider where he can release a film unrated if he so chooses.

As you said, his film will shock and repulse people. We're talking about a genre called 'horror' here. If it horrifies people he has done his job. Horror movies aren't all about suspense, tension and masterful scares. Whether people like it or not, ridiculous amounts of anatomically-correct gore and violence are very much a part of the genre and are one of the market's biggest selling points. Do you know how many times distributors have asked to put my words (when describing the violent content) on the front cover of DVDs? I've even had one that merely said "Very bloody" and it was for a film that I detested.

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And that is the problem with today's horror. Directors just tend to have murder after murder, torture after torture etc. I miss the films that actually had some meaning, a purpose other than just wanting to make people vomit.

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Originally Posted by Misawa

Six shot the film in London but he didn't make it to meet guidelines. Why would he shoot a film in a way that ensured the BBFC would approve? He's got the US market to consider where he can release a film unrated if he so chooses.

As you said, his film will shock and repulse people. We're talking about a genre called 'horror' here. If it horrifies people he has done his job. Horror movies aren't all about suspense, tension and masterful scares. Whether people like it or not, ridiculous amounts of anatomically-correct gore and violence are very much a part of the genre and are one of the market's biggest selling points. Do you know how many times distributors have asked to put my words (when describing the violent content) on the front cover of DVDs? I've even had one that merely said "Very bloody" and it was for a film that I detested.

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i didn't suggest he made it to meet guidelines. i don't care what market he's looking at, but he KNOWS the guidelines given by the BBFC, so why is he throwing a hissy fit when he has breached them? if he only made the film with the US market in mind, then why would he be angry at the BBFC?

and yes i am aware of the concept of a horror movie, i just said i don't like gore, didn't say it shouldn't exist lol, it's just my opinion.

but my point still stands that if he wanted a UK release so bad, then he should've played by the rules. and if he just wanted to make the movie he wanted, then he wouldn't be so wound up about this.

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Originally Posted by peteyt

And that is the problem with today's horror. Directors just tend to have murder after murder, torture after torture etc. I miss the films that actually had some meaning, a purpose other than just wanting to make people vomit.

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I have no problem with gore movies. They are what they are and aren't exactly new to the genre.

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Originally Posted by Misawa

I have no problem with gore movies. They are what they are and aren't exactly new to the genre.

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But appear to lack a script. Too many directors are going down the same route of complete gore, no actual purpose, style, script. It's just gore, gore, gore.

The problem is new horror directors don't want to make an actual film, they just want to make a sickfest. They don't care about anything but topping the last film. Is it just a coincidence that Serbian Film was like the most cut film in 20 years and then this happens, as if the director is like I can be even sicker.

sounds so disgusting but because of that, I know it's a must see...

WOWWWWW I am reallly looking forward to this :D

All the rapists are gonna be wrapping barbed wire around their ***** now

I'd watch it for a laugh

I mean the film not the rapists

..and we find out yet again that the nanny state knows what is best for you! but besides, who are the BBFC? do we want them? when did we appoint them? do they know whats best for me? I will most likely watch regardless because now we have this fantastic tool which is very hard to regulate called the internet. In terms of movies, i'll watch because I like the shock and horror value of movies such as this which is basically what the horror genre is after all.

The fact it's banned makes me want to rebel and watch it.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

..and we find out yet again that the nanny state knows what is best for you! but besides, who are the BBFC? do we want them? when did we appoint them? do they know whats best for me? I will most likely watch regardless because now we have this fantastic tool which is very hard to regulate called the internet. In terms of movies, i'll watch because I like the shock and horror value of movies such as this which is basically what the horror genre is after all.

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The problem is horror can be so much more, about creating surreal and tense environments, often beauty within a nightmare.

Yeah horror is to scare, but can do a lot more than scaring. Today's modern directors just seem to think all horror fans want is blood and guts and cut the rest out. To me its pointless, degrading and just a waste of time to watch, but that's just my opinion.

Just saw this however. A website claiming that it isn't up against the BBFC. Not sure if this is true though
http://www.filmshaft.com/exclusive-h...c-as-reported/
I'm not saying this film should be banned, no film should be, but I think the director knew what he was doing. Horror used to be about creativity, now its simply about creating the next sickest film. Someone else is going to do something even sicker after this film, with no real script or real point, just so it can become the top of sickness, someone else after that and so on. And in the meantime what horror meant to me slowly dies.