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Well, one bit of evidence for this is my friend. As I've already said. I'm currently on my phone so I shall show written evidence on this later.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbgtz
Also when you're finding out your BMI you usually have to select what body build you are for it to be accurate.
Its practically common sense to know that people have different body builds.
Its usually determined by your genetic makeup. For example my friend Amys mother also has a large body structure but she isn't fat.
You do realise that the term ‘fat’ is subjective, meaning everyone has different opinions on what is ‘fat’ some would class it as being slightly overweight, others would say someone’s fat if they’re obese. Your friend Amy isn’t evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by -toxicflames
Some BMI calculators may ask you for your body type, but that doesn’t matter unless, as I’ve already stated you’re a body builder etc. Your friend is most likely overweight, however I haven’t seen her or know anything about her to make a judgment.
I pardon that you excuse me for taking the liberty of looking at the photos you posted in the picture thread. Based on the info you have given on the forum including your photo and your current weight and height I would say that it is true that you are overweight. Try simple changes at first - try to make your diet a bit healthier each day, for example. You don't have to rush yourself to the gym and exercise if it is too much trouble for you. Granted, going to the gym will give you more muscle mass and faster results. Just bear in mind that something as easy as rewriting your diet and cutting some bad foods out can take off the weight that bothers you.
When doctors in hospitals first take you in they get your body type etc, so tbh it must matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Don
And she really isn't overweight.
She has a rugby players body, and she got this from her mum. I mean honestly, everyone has different builds. Excuse me for trying to be nice and say he's not overweight, he might just have a different body build to everyone else!
And btw, Obese and fat are two completely different things in the terms of medical scienticts.
And my friend is evidence, as she gives examples to what I am saying. My body build is very small bones, so I weigh 5stone, she has much larger bones compared to me, so she weighs around 10stone.
Sorry, I’m lost as to what you’re talking about, please elaborate.Quote:
Originally Posted by -toxicflames
Again, I don’t know her weight, height or waist/dress size to make a judgment.Quote:
And she really isn't overweight.
A rugby players body? There are different roles in rugby which require different characteristics. For example, props are usually the stronger, heavier players. They need to be heavy as well as strong to give them the best chance of winning in the scrum. You wouldn’t have someone with the body type of a prop playing fallback as they need to be quicker so obviously the extra weight wouldn’t be helpful.Quote:
She has a rugby players body, and she got this from her mum. I mean honestly, everyone has different builds.
I presume you are using the term ‘rugby players body’ to describe the first example I used, which suggests that your friend is indeed, overweight/fat. Again, I don’t know this I can only summarize from what you’ve said.
Telling someone they aren’t overweight/fat when they are causes more harm than being truthful which might hurt their feelings initially, but it’s far better/healthier in the long run for that person.Quote:
Excuse me for trying to be nice and say he's not overweight, he might just have a different body build to everyone else!
Yes, Obese is a medical term for the extremely overweight, Fat, is not a medical term, and again, is subjective.Quote:
And btw, Obese and fat are two completely different things in the terms of medical scienticts.
She weighs around 10 stone, not due to her bone density, but because of other differences e.g how tall she is, her fat content etc.Quote:
And my friend is evidence, as she gives examples to what I am saying. My body build is very small bones, so I weigh 5stone, she has much larger bones compared to me, so she weighs around 10stone.
1) You said that BMI doesn't really matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Don
2) If you don't know anything about her, then don't automatically jump to conclusions eg: she's overweight.
3) I'm using a rugby players body to mean that she has a rugby players body, as she plays rugby.. her whole family pretty much played rugby, so their bodies changed overtime to suit the roles that they're playing.
4) I am being truthful, from what I've seen of him, he isn't overweight, he looks like his bone structure is different. It's like someone has fleshy cheeks. That doesn't mean that they're fat, it just means that they were made different, because guess what, nobody is the same so everyone obviously has different bodies and structures.
5) Fat is just another term for overweight. Overweight is not obese.
6) She weighs 10stone DUE to her bone density. She is the same height as me, and eats WAY less than me, and I eat like a pig! So fat content definatly isn't a factor.
Ask any doctor or science teacher, and they will tell you that people appear to be larger than others because of their bones.
(makes longer so i can respond)Quote:
Originally Posted by -toxicflames
on a mad one akeaaaaaaaaam, to be on topic... just keep up the gym.
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Oh wow, I'm sorry, but are YOU a doctor then?
Considering my mum is a highschool teacher, she mainly teaches science and she said, and I quote: 'What this person is saying is utterly stupid, as everyone has different body structures, just like boys and girls bone structures are not the same. He/she needs to read up on their facts.'
And also the HEAD of science at our school taught us only last week about this.
And what I said about the fat = overweight is true, considering once again, we learnt it in school.
Did I ever say she evolved to have a rugby players body from her parents? No. What I said was that SHE is a rugby player, so her body ends up adapting its self in slight ways to suit being a rugby player.
If she had tiny little bones, like some people, they'd just snap.
And about the BMI, you said 'Some BMI calculators may ask you for your body type, but that doesn’t matter' so I just replied that it does matter.. before you start to try make me look like an idiot on saying stuff about BMI, maybe you should remember stuff that you wrote on previous posts?
Oh god. Arguing about something which I'm obviously correct in (as most people know) *Removed*
You know what? get google out, and find out *Removed*
Edited by Jordan (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude to others
I think you'll find you're the one doing that, oh also it's pretty rude that you don't have respect for someone older than you because as far as I'm aware The Don is an adult :PQuote:
Originally Posted by -toxicflames