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Also no, news integration isn't still happening as the point wasn't just look for a thread and link to it if it exists but to actually create such a discussion if there wasn't one already. "Read more & comment" is as popular as ever (that is, no-one uses it) and was supposed to have been completely taken out as it not only makes it look like news is completely unread but also gives no incentive for any readers you do get to integrate with the community. In the whole of October and November so far there have been 4 comments on articles, 2 of which were Laura wanting to win VIP for looking at articles (seriously worst use of free VIP ever) and the other 2 not related to the article at all. In 37 articles that's nothing, so the feature is obviously pointless

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Egocentric post of the year goes to...


Also no, news integration isn't still happening as the point wasn't just look for a thread and link to it if it exists but to actually create such a discussion if there wasn't one already. "Read more & comment" is as popular as ever (that is, no-one uses it) and was supposed to have been completely taken out as it not only makes it look like news is completely unread but also gives no incentive for any readers you do get to integrate with the community. In the whole of October and November so far there have been 4 comments on articles, 2 of which were Laura wanting to win VIP for looking at articles (seriously worst use of free VIP ever) and the other 2 not related to the article at all. In 37 articles that's nothing, so the feature is obviously pointless

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Well then that's not my fault lmao? That was the solution the management at the time came up with and honestly no I didn't agree with it (I can't remember if I said this in the news forums), but before I can change things like that I've needed to build my team up and the amount of reports posted.

Also, Laura didn't win VIP for those 2 reports she commented on, it was for the months previous that she had done - she wasn't searching for reports to comment on (as this was under Ryan's rule), so I told her to comment on them as I felt she deserved it for previous months. Then of course, I didn't know I'd be the manager in a couple of weeks time.

I'd like to integrate it more onto the forum though, like I said - I wanted to at least reward for the discussion on the forum (as that's what actually helps us do reports sometimes). I'd also love to know your ideas or whoevers of what they think would help integrate it more (just link me to previous threads if needs be). I'd have done more if I knew it wasn't enough!

Don't see how it's an egocentric post though as I want the best for Habbox and I've tried to give that :rolleyes:.

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Well then that's not my fault lmao? That was the solution the management at the time came up with and honestly no I didn't agree with it (I can't remember if I said this in the news forums), but before I can change things like that I've needed to build my team up and the amount of reports posted.

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Not your fault that as manager you haven't properly enacted an important change despite having relatively few staff to watch over? Righto.

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Also, Laura didn't win VIP for those 2 reports she commented on, it was for the months previous that she had done - she wasn't searching for reports to comment on (as this was under Ryan's rule), so I told her to comment on them as I felt she deserved it for previous months. Then of course, I didn't know I'd be the manager in a couple of weeks time.

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Really not the point; was more illustrating how scarcely the feature is used and how as such it's ridiculous to 1) carry on using it and 2) give an associated reward equal to MOTM which usually requires some actual effort

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

I'd like to integrate it more onto the forum though, like I said - I wanted to at least reward for the discussion on the forum (as that's what actually helps us do reports sometimes). I'd also love to know your ideas or whoevers of what they think would help integrate it more (just link me to previous threads if needs be). I'd have done more if I knew it wasn't enough!

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Pretty certain you already know the idea since we've discussed it before on more than one occasion although to be fair in that first link it's a thread where the idea has been discussed in some detail but you didn't respond to it yourself - you just ignored the suggestion and started talking about yourself

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Don't see how it's an egocentric post though as I want the best for Habbox and I've tried to give that :rolleyes:.

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lmao you talked about your promotion, claimed a proposal as your own even while saying that it was someone else's idea first, bigged yourself up for how great and nice it was of you to use it, had a sob about being told no (aren't you a manager? Shouldn't it be down to you to choose how your department is run and not other people?), and then insinuated that your donation is the dawn of a new Habbox. All this while denying not only that a huge problem exists in your department but now pretending to not know of the proposed (and previously accepted) solution

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Not your fault that as manager you haven't properly enacted an important change despite having relatively few staff to watch over? Righto.



Really not the point; was more illustrating how scarcely the feature is used and how as such it's ridiculous to 1) carry on using it and 2) give an associated reward equal to MOTM which usually requires some actual effort



Pretty certain you already know the idea since we've discussed it before on more than one occasion although to be fair in that first link it's a thread where the idea has been discussed in some detail but you didn't respond to it yourself - you just ignored the suggestion and started talking about yourself



lmao you talked about your promotion, claimed a proposal as your own even while saying that it was someone else's idea first, bigged yourself up for how great and nice it was of you to use it, had a sob about being told no (aren't you a manager? Shouldn't it be down to you to choose how your department is run and not other people?), and then insinuated that your donation is the dawn of a new Habbox. All this while denying not only that a huge problem exists in your department but now pretending to not know of the proposed (and previously accepted) solution

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There are more important things to deal with in News instead of integration to the forum - I have asked about it though, but I need to be more in depth when I explain before anything can be carried out. The only burden currently is Sulake. However, above that I do have more important things to do regardless of how many is in my department. I'm sure I've said already that the reports we did need to increase, in which they are doing, but without those reports we cannot integrate to the forum.

Yes ideas have been given before, I haven't just ignored them it was more of I didn't agree with them so I don't want to reply. However, I did reply to some and back then ok I didn't agree with it as like I said in some of them - there was no motivation or leading role in the department and I couldn't do anything being normal staff (apart from do my work, go onto complain if I wanted to see change etc.)

I can't help it if the change that we got as normal staff was to link to the Habbox Forum post, that is all we got and like I said - currently, the integration isn't my top priority nor should it be. It already occurs even if it is minimal and I am trying to get it more onto the forum, but in a way that News Reporters aren't redundant and Sulake are ok with it!

I haven't replied to all of your points, but I will reread over the suggestions, the parts about me were mainly saying that the funds are there if Habbox do need them. As when Mike was AGM I spent all my Credits helping him do rooms and making sure Habbox was doing what was needed. That's not bigging myself up, it's helping out a fansite.

First of all @Samanfa; it is quite clear that Laura posts on the news articles just for the free VIP. Frankly, that is a poor use of VIP. I remember there being a thread in feedback a while back and I posted all the places you could win VIP, and frankly, it's too much. I think I'll go through and check again in a second, but that needs to be cut down.

Also, in general, why don't managers have full control over their department?

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First of all @Samanfa; it is quite clear that Laura posts on the news articles just for the free VIP. Frankly, that is a poor use of VIP. I remember there being a thread in feedback a while back and I posted all the places you could win VIP, and frankly, it's too much. I think I'll go through and check again in a second, but that needs to be cut down.

Also, in general, why don't managers have full control over their department?

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I do understand where you're coming from - the Reader of the Month award began in January (so 10 or so months now), an only 3 people have won throughout. So, in that way I haven't abused the VIP features too much, but it does need looking into (that's if it continues).

I have an alternative underway and I will bring it live soon, this will feature Habbo prizes more than VIP and such though.

Well from what I have been aware, by searching for new staff, there's not enough being done and going out to get people. It's crucial, even non-Habbox people who may have talent and write for smaller fansites. News has been in a massive dent ever since Inkwell (with all due respect), and without any proper reforms soon, it won't be getting any better.

I also swear the news editing process is poor, I've seem flimsy errors on articles on page 5 (so you cannot claim it's recent and hasn't yet been edited). If I saw such badly edited articles, I'd just turn away. You do have some excellent reporters such as Dan, but it's a shame that simple things such as a thorough editing process cannot be completed properly.

@Kardan; I just realised that the prize for Reader of the Month was 15c or VIP - Laura chose Credits whereas Luke chose VIP.

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I do understand where you're coming from - the Reader of the Month award began in January (so 10 or so months now), an only 3 people have won throughout. So, in that way I haven't abused the VIP features too much, but it does need looking into (that's if it continues).

I have an alternative underway and I will bring it live soon, this will feature Habbo prizes more than VIP and such though.

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It's not that you're abusing VIP features, it just shouldn't award VIP at all.

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@Kardan; I just realised that the prize for Reader of the Month was 15c or VIP - Laura chose Credits whereas Luke chose VIP.

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But why is there even a prize for reader of the month? It's a pointless feature.

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Well from what I have been aware, by searching for new staff, there's not enough being done and going out to get people. It's crucial, even non-Habbox people who may have talent and write for smaller fansites. News has been in a massive dent ever since Inkwell (with all due respect), and without any proper reforms soon, it won't be getting any better.

I also swear the news editing process is poor, I've seem flimsy errors on articles on page 5 (so you cannot claim it's recent and hasn't yet been edited). If I saw such badly edited articles, I'd just turn away. You do have some excellent reporters such as Dan, but it's a shame that simple things such as a thorough editing process cannot be completed properly.

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When were the errors you saw, time frame etc? There's currently only me who can edit reports on site, apart from Charlie and GM - I've been going through them as soon as I can each time and I have missed some (when I thought I was getting help with editing), but most I have gone back on to ensure the quality is upped. I would love another Head News Reporter, but it's more who to promote currently and is it plausible with how many is currently in the department.

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It's not that you're abusing VIP features, it just shouldn't award VIP at all.

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But why is there even a prize for reader of the month? It's a pointless feature.

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One of the main goals when I was originally appointed assistant in February 2012 was commenting on News Articles, we had ideas of guest commenting (something promised that never got done), awards (such as the VIP) and things like that. I brought it in (and it was in talks for months before going live) to improve commenting on the site and it did work for an amount of time. However, it hasn't been advertised that much and having only 3 winners showed it, but I'm sure more can be done as I said there were ideas floating when I was in my first part of assistant.