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Just to give you an example. I left Habboxlive a few months back as Head DJ and decided to come back and had to apply and got trialist. I am not mad about it just feels weird being trial but it does show the manager if you are really dedicated to the team again.
I agree, If you resigned from HxHD then you decide to return month later, you should be put on trial as it makes you work for it again to see if you are truly dedicated to return to the department.Quote:
Originally Posted by XxZammyXx
He let me return because he was staff when I was last in the department. He's never worked with you and I think it's fair enough that he wants to see what you're like instead of letting you just return, I've seen a few managers do it and it's not really a big deal. If you want to be staff again, and you're planning to stay for a reasonable amount of time, then having 2 weeks with Trialist in your user title is hardly nothing really :P. Although what Kyle said about shortening it might be fairer with returnees.
Isn't the trial only a week rather than two weeks for staff who want to return? Really doesn't make much difference as if you really want to return you'll stick it out for one/two weeks and not just want to return for the room rights lol.
Sam wasn't entirely sure about you, generally and working for the Help Desk, I then told him to put you on trial to see your dedication. It's been a practice for years even when I was staff and I think the process is fine.
I also considered why you had resigned last time - this could easily happen again and a trial proves the patience to stick with the role somewhat. The difference between you and Shonly here is that she has roles throughout Habbox, we know how dedicated she still is as she proves that every day, her resignation was also down to something that was out of her hands if I remember correctly which would be unfair to trial her for. However, with you just returning to Habbox, when we've had so many staff changes, a lot of people might not know your full potential.
The trial is two weeks long, you get the option to take it or not and even though we may need the staff it doesn't mean everyone can just return with full perms - there's that level of tryst especially in the Help Desk due to staff having rights.
At the end of the day, the trial is two weeks long (I'd prefer to keep it as two weeks due to how the Help Desk works, I don't think dedication will shine through for sitting in a room/helping people for 5 hours) and if you want to be in the department that much then you would take the trial and go through with it, not make a feedback thread about the title you receive.
This single case didn't need a feedback thread. You could have opened it up to all the departments and we could have bad a proper discussion and not talk about an individual case.
Considering you haven't been staff for around 7 to 8 months then any department manager has the right to put you on trial if you wish to come back to that department. It doesn't matter if you have been there in the past or not - If the gap is big enough and the manager feels you should rather be put on a trial then that is what should happen.
am I the only person glad that sam is not automatically copying everything charlie did? Love to charlie still, but come on, his department, he's is new, he doesn't know you himself so even from recommendations from previous management he's going to do what he's most comfortable with.
Though if you're taking it this badly I don't personally want to work with you within the helpdesk department. It's not a big deal, you should easily pass and you just don't get room rights.
I was actually looking the other day because I was convince we (managers) discussed hiring policies a while ago, including returning staff.
If you've been away for a while, no matter what department or manager, how can we know that anyone could be as dedicated? During that time you could have lost a few brain cells - and 9 times out of 10 people leave due to other commitments.
I do kinda think we should have a written, Habbox-wide policy on it, much like we do with being fired/returning etc.
I know it can be a bit off putting to returnees; I suppose if the manager knows the staff member, like Tom does with the recent events staff, then that's OK but if a manager has never encountered, or only a few times/through word of mouth, I think it's only fair that they definitely ask for a trial first.
End of the day in most departments there is no difference between being a trialist and being full staff, it's just another word in your usertitle, a formality.
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I think it's completely up to the manager and I'm sure they have a good reason for choosing to put you on trial. When I was Rare Values Manager a few years ago - note, back when the department had a lot more interest - I put a policy in place which meant that if you resigned, you'd have to come back on trial no matter what your role was (management may have been an exception) and the main reason was that very often we'd have a number of people leaving only to want to return a short while later. I won't name them but there used to be a person who'd return every time a senior position became available and then leave when it was filled by someone else, @-Danube-; will know :P.. if he ever comes online :(.
As for a Habbox wide policy, I don't think there should be one tbh. With a department like Rare Values which is struggling for staff I think they should be allowed to return in full staff positions, but not if big changes have been made to the department since they were last there. For example someone who was around when RV was reporting in threads wanting to return now. Also the length of time can make a difference. But then with departments with loads of interest for staff, any regular staff should definitely be put back in as trialists imo but possibly with exceptions for senior staff or management depending on the opinion of the manager hiring them.
There was a thing, I don't know how official, a while ago and I think the general discussion agreed that people could return to the level under their last one? So in RV for example, if you were manager you COULD return as Head, if you were Head as Senior, if you were Senior then as staff and if you were staff then as trialist (obviously different now senior doesn't exist).
... that seems to make sense to me, anyway.