Reputation vs Like/Thanks system?

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Originally Posted by scottish

Stopping the report of -reps would result in the reputation system having even more of a negative impact and more pointless, revenge, rude, etc reps given/received.

You forced piss rep, this is a lot better :P

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Yeah exactly, so disallowing reports would be a really bad idea.

"Piss rep" is a bit different though. That was just a small addition to the system which didn't really change the way it works. A like system is a large change thats going to effect users.

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Originally Posted by scottish

the point was, they said they gained a lot less (the highest rep people) due to everyone else having sometimes significantly lower power. which obviously isn't the case if they're gaining more power than a new active user.

if we did stick with rep, is there a way to alter it so it's not as simple as

400 = 1
800 = 2
1200 = 3 etc

so maybe

400 = 1
1000 = 2
1800 = 3

etc

obviously not those exact figures but you get the point.

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What would that achieve other than making it just as hard to gain rep

Abolish te power element I say!


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Originally Posted by scottish

the point was, they said they gained a lot less (the highest rep people) due to everyone else having sometimes significantly lower power. which obviously isn't the case if they're gaining more power than a new active user.

if we did stick with rep, is there a way to alter it so it's not as simple as

400 = 1
800 = 2
1200 = 3 etc

so maybe

400 = 1
1000 = 2
1800 = 3

etc

obviously not those exact figures but you get the point.

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I'm getting confused. Bikini (new user) has received 1/4 of my rep power in just one year. Is there any proof that older users gain more power than new active users?

But yeah, I'm not opposed to making all reps issued equal.

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Originally Posted by Kyle

What would that achieve other than making it just as hard to gain rep

Abolish te power element I say!


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That works too, but idk how practical that is. As far as I'm aware from the rep system there isn't an option to just show amount of reps etc, it's based on power always from what I remember.

It would make it harder and harder as you go up in power, so you're not getting the same amount of rep points between rep power as someone who's been here for 2 days.

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Originally Posted by buttons

this was my reasoning last time the poll came up, that it doesn't matter how much reputation points or power i have, that's not indicative of the amount of times i've actually been repped and i don't find it fair that my agreement with someone is going to give them a lot of rep compared to someone with a lower rep.
i did count up mine before and i can't remember how much it came to... 124 pages to go through...

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Agreed - I would be happy for a swap as long as old users posts are not ignored for their value to the forum (similarly against resetting post count etc).

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Originally Posted by Kyle

What would that achieve other than making it just as hard to gain rep

Abolish te power element I say!


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Abolishing the power element does effectively make it a like system where peoples current number of +Reps are converted.

Can we not export amount of times repped to a new system :(


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Originally Posted by Kyle

Can we not export amount of times repped to a new system :(


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not sure.

but as MCR said, showing only the amount of times you've been repped is essentially the like system. the only different is it's practical in the like system and not in standard vbulletins reputation system (from what I'm aware)

so we are in agreement that the fairest system is users aren't penalized for their previous contributions but we still remain on an equal level by not allowing one person's like/rep to be more powerful than anothers?

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Originally Posted by The Don

I'm getting confused. Bikini (new user) has received 1/4 of my rep power in just one year. Is there any proof that older users gain more power than new active users?

But yeah, I'm not opposed to making all reps issued equal.

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yes, there is proof if you ask the people with access to go through and make a comparison of every users reps over the past year, other than that no :P

The argument that was made in the other thread was something along the lines of;

New users gain more rep points because older members have high rep. It's hard to gain rep power at higher powers because you get repped lower than you give out.

Where as some of the highest members have gone up what 15-20 rep power in the year or something? (idk exactly, I don't record this data and keep a date of it) so it's obviously not accurate. Maybe it's a tiny bit different or more equal, but they're obviously not at a huge disadvantage.

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Originally Posted by Kyle

Can we not export amount of times repped to a new system :(


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That is the fourth system in the poll :)