Have I missed something?

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

This was my edit for the Golden Plasma Gate, the first side is what it was before, the second part is what I changed it to.

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oo that's good then, where did you find that on it though ;o ( no need for listing changes when spagging now obv LMAO )

Edit: o i see if you go on view history --> compare selected revisions ye that's good

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Originally Posted by Inkwell

oo that's good then, where did you find that on it though ;o ( no need for listing changes when spagging now obv LMAO )

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Go on a page.
Click 'View History'
Click 'Prev' it will show you the edit before and the newest one.

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Originally Posted by Inkwell

oo that's good then, where did you find that on it though ;o ( no need for listing changes when spagging now obv LMAO )

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Go onto any page, click View History up the top and then select the versions you want to compare :P Most of the time it'll be the two most recent edits you want to compare anyway and those are already selected for you, then just hit the button and it'll show you the differences

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Originally Posted by Inkwell

Oddly enough most people seem to take like closer to an hour for their articles really. I can't actually explain why myself as i only take about 15-20 mins myself. The min before was pretty standard taking it at an hour each though compared to most departments, but yea it's basically gone up drastically now, no idea how long big wiki edits take to do as I was only main site staff when I was in content though.

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Articles have to be 180 words or more, usually it depends how long it takes and sometimes it can take more time to edit them rather than write them lmao :P.

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I guess as long as all of the articles are perfect it isn't too much of an issue how many write, as long as they don't take the piss. Surely the answer is to hire more staff? :L

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Originally Posted by Grig

Good quality articles, much like good quality essays do not take as little time as you say.

2 is fine for a minimum, 3 is also OK and was the norm for a while when Martin and I lowered it from 4! But people started struggling, so I believe it was lowered- not sure.

People posting away right when they start their trial is an issue that needs to be sorted, maybe have a system that you can't take more than 2 weeks leave during your trial or something like that.

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I don't mean to burst the bloon, but the essays I write are A grade standard... just saying :L

I do plan to hire more staff straight away Skynus allows me to basically, as I've got a bunch of applications currently a lot of which I would accept.

IF we were to unmerge though I'm assuming quite a lot of people would return from what they've said to me anyway so that would fix that prblem lmao

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Originally Posted by Inkwell

I do plan to hire more staff straight away Skynus allows me to basically, as I've got a bunch of applications currently a lot of which I would accept.

IF we were to unmerge though I'm assuming quite a lot of people would return from what they've said to me anyway so that would fix that prblem lmao

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That is true, I would come back.

To be honest, I wanted to move over to Graphics once the merge occurred because I like to make graphics and I didn't want to do Content work as it is much different to writing Room Reviews [News]. The reason I left was because I had sent my App. in to be switched over to graphics and never got a definite response back stating I was moving over or not. When I had gotten my monthly reports a few days later, all the comments stated that they were going to miss me from news. So I thought for the longest time I was going to be moved over. Few weeks later I get a response saying I wasn't going to get into the GFX dept. as my work I showed them was not good enough. Well one of the Graphics I sent was the one below which is my current signature. So when I decided to leave the dept. all together I wrote my resignation thread and everyone said goodbye, but I got a really rude message from @Skynus; and have been harassed by both skynus @Inkwell; ever since I left.

That is awfully melodramatic and completely exagerated tbh. but if you want to discuss it all this is not even the place and you got a reply within about a day that it wasn't good enough actually.

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Originally Posted by Dragga

That is true, I would come back.

To be honest, I wanted to move over to Graphics once the merge occurred because I like to make graphics and I didn't want to do Content work as it is much different to writing Room Reviews [News]. The reason I left was because I had sent my App. in to be switched over to graphics and never got a definite response back stating I was moving over or not. When I had gotten my monthly reports a few days later, all the comments stated that they were going to miss me from news. So I thought for the longest time I was going to be moved over. Few weeks later I get a response saying I wasn't going to get into the GFX dept. as my work I showed them was not good enough. Well one of the Graphics I sent was the one below which is my current signature. So when I decided to leave the dept. all together I wrote my resignation thread and everyone said goodbye, but I got a really rude message from @Skynus; and have been harassed by both skynus @Inkwell; ever since I left.

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I very much doubt some of that's true.

skynus is an unreasonably angry and mentally disturbed man, i wouldnt put it past him to abuse people for resigning








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Originally Posted by David

skynus is an unreasonably angry and mentally disturbed man, i wouldnt put it past him to abuse people for resigning
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If you would like to see the messages I received from him just ask. They were very Rude.

ON TOPIC. I was never a real fan of the merger, just ask Shoned.

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Originally Posted by Dragga

That is true, I would come back.

To be honest, I wanted to move over to Graphics once the merge occurred because I like to make graphics and I didn't want to do Content work as it is much different to writing Room Reviews [News]. The reason I left was because I had sent my App. in to be switched over to graphics and never got a definite response back stating I was moving over or not. When I had gotten my monthly reports a few days later, all the comments stated that they were going to miss me from news. So I thought for the longest time I was going to be moved over. Few weeks later I get a response saying I wasn't going to get into the GFX dept. as my work I showed them was not good enough. Well one of the Graphics I sent was the one below which is my current signature. So when I decided to leave the dept. all together I wrote my resignation thread and everyone said goodbye, but I got a really rude message from @Skynus; and have been harassed by both skynus @Inkwell; ever since I left.

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Goodness me, DRAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

If the truth is rude, then so be it - but honestly, who posts away because they didn't get a reply to a PM then moans and says they're resigning because they still didn't get a reply?

Now, let's not take this off-topic -- you know how to private message myself, Jan or a member of General Management.

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Originally Posted by Dragga

If you would like to see the messages I received from him just ask. They were very Rude.

ON TOPIC. I was never a real fan of the merger, just ask Shoned.

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Sure, let's see.

lol just read them, im on toms side.
heard the staff didnt say goodbye in a nice way to your thread either

To be honest, from what I read you made it sound like you were an amazing News Reporter but in fact only did a very small amount of articles. Fair enough if you wasn't a fan of the merge but don't make it into something that it isn't.

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Originally Posted by Inkwell

I do plan to hire more staff straight away Skynus allows me to basically, as I've got a bunch of applications currently a lot of which I would accept.

IF we were to unmerge though I'm assuming quite a lot of people would return from what they've said to me anyway so that would fix that prblem lmao

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This reply caught my eye.

So you're not allowed to get new staff members without his permission? Surely your managerial title stands for something..

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Originally Posted by Aaron

This reply caught my eye.

So you're not allowed to get new staff members without his permission? Surely your managerial title stands for something..

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Her post doesn't say that. She means Tom let's her hire people in the department.

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Originally Posted by Aaron

This reply caught my eye.

So you're not allowed to get new staff members without his permission? Surely your managerial title stands for something..

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Her post doesn't say that. She means Tom let's her hire people in the department.

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I don't restrict her from hiring anyone, but I have 'strongly advised' not to due to some things in the air which are most likely going to happen, so it would just be a waste of time right now.

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Originally Posted by Aaron

This reply caught my eye.

So you're not allowed to get new staff members without his permission? Surely your managerial title stands for something..

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Her post doesn't say that. She means Tom let's her hire people in the department.

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To be perfectly frank they should be having discussions about it before doing it, it's not about permission, it's about common courtesy.

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Originally Posted by Aaron

This reply caught my eye.

So you're not allowed to get new staff members without his permission? Surely your managerial title stands for something..

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Her post doesn't say that. She means Tom let's her hire people in the department.

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So basicaly your saying the same thing as aaron. Janice cant do anything without Tom's permission....

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Originally Posted by Dragga

So basicaly your saying the same thing as aaron. Janice cant do anything without Tom's permission....

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No I never said that. Tom doesn't control the news side of the department in that sense.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

To be perfectly frank they should be having discussions about it before doing it, it's not about permission, it's about common courtesy.

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This is about control/permission and not communication by the looks of it.

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Originally Posted by Dragga

So basicaly your saying the same thing as aaron. Janice cant do anything without Tom's permission....

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Essentially if the merge was completed properly, Tom would be the manager and Jan would be the assistant, of which case Tom would have greater authority than she would. I think though that the reason for Tom saying not to hire anyone at the minute is purely because of the uncertainty of the merge and the reception it has had thus far.

I posted on page 10 that unmerging wouldn't be an issue. Maybe take the hint :P

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Her post doesn't say that. She means Tom let's her hire people in the department.

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Originally Posted by Skynus

I don't restrict her from hiring anyone, but I have 'strongly advised' not to due to some things in the air which are most likely going to happen, so it would just be a waste of time right now.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

To be perfectly frank they should be having discussions about it before doing it, it's not about permission, it's about common courtesy.

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Originally Posted by Dragga

So basicaly your saying the same thing as aaron. Janice cant do anything without Tom's permission....

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Wow don't I feel popular (4 quotes haha!) :P I also rarely reply to Habbox Feedback, just usually watch.

Well once she has the discretion to hire more news staff without any problems, if not that's when you'll see managers resign because of losing that sense of authority/power.

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Originally Posted by Aaron

Wow don't I feel popular (4 quotes haha!) :P I also rarely reply to Habbox Feedback, just usually watch.

Well once she has the discretion to hire more news staff without any problems, if not that's when you'll see managers resign because of losing that sense of authority/power.

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No one is actually stopping her, don't worry. Just doing it right this minute might be a bad idea as they would be hired into a merged department which will most likely be unmerged before the week is out.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

I posted on page 10 that unmerging wouldn't be an issue. Maybe take the hint :P

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I thought one AGM didn't want to unmerge?

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

I thought one AGM didn't want to unmerge?

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One AGM vs the GM and the majority of Habbox?

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

I thought one AGM didn't want to unmerge?

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Both managers were told to give it until the end of April and if it wasn't working out we would go from there. So technically we are right on track!

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

No one is actually stopping her, don't worry. Just doing it right this minute might be a bad idea as they would be hired into a merged department which will most likely be unmerged before the week is out.

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Oh well that's good then I guess, it'll be interesting to see how it all pans out. This'll be an interesting thread to keep my eye on.

Ye that is what I meant basically if you took that wrong ;p not rly any point in hiring when it could revert in a week anyway

K I read the PM conversation. The result (in my eyes)?

Skynus - you were rude, and in fairness, unprofessional. Not what I would expect from a manager.
Dragga - your ego about your News Report abilities is causing my monitor to explode.

Basically, Skynus (assuming the PM's were not edited) you might need to take your own advice about growing up. Not supporting Dragga either though.

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Originally Posted by Marketing

K I read the PM conversation. The result (in my eyes)?

Skynus - you were rude, and in fairness, unprofessional. Not what I would expect from a manager.
Dragga - your ego about your News Report abilities is causing my monitor to explode.

Basically, Skynus (assuming the PM's were not edited) you might need to take your own advice about growing up. Not supporting Dragga either though.

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Inb4 dragga gets fired for sharing private content.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Inb4 dragga gets fired for sharing private content.

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I don't think anything is private at Habbox anymore.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Inb4 dragga gets fired for sharing private content.

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Fired and shoved onto the DNHL then thrown into jail with the key thrown away.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Inb4 dragga gets fired for sharing private content.

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Technically I see no harm in him forwarding a private message - particularly when there is a point to be proved.

No private user information was shared so..

Tom was rude in the PM, although not correct about some information due to not knowing about news. However, Tyler was big headed and I've edited most of his reports for grammar errors so only me or another senior know if he's a good writer.

Although I'm not sure why this was brought out to the public, Tom is always rude to me I get on with it, aren't you @Skynus; :P?

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Originally Posted by Marketing

K I read the PM conversation. The result (in my eyes)?

Skynus - you were rude, and in fairness, unprofessional. Not what I would expect from a manager.
Dragga - your ego about your News Report abilities is causing my monitor to explode.

Basically, Skynus (assuming the PM's were not edited) you might need to take your own advice about growing up. Not supporting Dragga either though.

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I have no idea what he sent you, but I did actually apologise in advance at the end of the PM as I was incredibly agitated with some things that day and that was just the cherry on the cake. Obviously, nobody can be nice all the time and control themselves.

With that said, all of the things I said were the honest truth and is exactly what should have been said - not a nice 'you've done this but don't worry I'm not mad' approach because for a month he basically just complained and did practically nothing, if anything at all. I don't like people being arrogant either, especially when none of the arrogance is true.

I guess this is a kind of public apology - but I still spoke my mind, just like most people at Habbox do.

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Tom was rude in the PM, although not correct about some information due to not knowing about news. However, Tyler was big headed and I've edited most of his reports for grammar errors so only me or another senior know if he's a good writer.

Although I'm not sure why this was brought out to the public, Tom is always rude to me I get on with it, aren't you @Skynus; :P?

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You make it seem like I'm such a bad person :( I do it to you because you can take it ;)

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

I thought one AGM didn't want to unmerge?

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I've been on the fence the whole time. Personally, I think the merge could've worked. It was change and people are resistant to change but the whole transition was just done wrong, placing the department in a state of limbo and not able to rejuvinate itself. Both general management and department management are to blame for that. Applications should've been opened because it was only with new arrivals that the success of this department could be accurately measured. As newbies to the department, their opinion on the merge and what work they did would not have been about how it was different to what came before but based on the merge's own merits. They could've easily been asked to choose a department if the merge had been reversed.

The department management have had their fighting spirit eroded so I took the helm. I am not convinced by this idea that the writing styles are different. I've also worked in both departments before and found no transition difficult at all. If content is about throwing the kitchen sink in then imo that should change because the similarity between both is that they are to both instruct and entertain and that style is consistent in both news and content.

On the other hand, the lack of fighting spirit should be an indicator that it was never going to be championed from the rooftops so when asked, I told Matt we should unmerge.

Off topic award goes to.........

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Originally Posted by Recursion

Off topic award goes to.........

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Bertie!

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Bertie!

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but who will claim the award when he's missing!!