What do you want to happen to "fast threads"?

Either way the post count will be included if it stays where it is or in a sub-forum with post count enabled so I really don't see why this argument is taking place?

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Originally Posted by Dilusionate

Either way the post count will be included if it stays where it is or in a sub-forum with post count enabled so I really don't see why this argument is taking place?

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By moving them into a sub forum it leaves discuss anything open to some proper discussion.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

By moving them into a sub forum it leaves discuss anything open to some proper discussion.

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But this would shift almost all of the discussion in that forum into the sub-forum. Discussion isn't very ongoing in the Discuss Anything forum right now and these so called 'fast threads' is what's keeping it alive. I didn't notice it so much before but now that I'm moderating that section, I can see it's not very active at all

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Originally Posted by Dilusionate

But this would shift almost all of the discussion in that forum into the sub-forum. Discussion isn't very ongoing in the Discuss Anything forum right now and these so called 'fast threads' is what's keeping it alive. I didn't notice it so much before but now that I'm moderating that section, I can see it's not very active at all

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When post your threads were moved to a post count disabled forum in the past the number of posts dropped for the first week, but after that the number of posts recovered because more discussion went on in better threads.

@Chippiewill; stop being childish. The poll is over and the most popular choice is to leave them as they are. There isn't any more discussion to be had since they've been moved before to a different subforum which turned out to be a failure and more importantly, more people are in favour of it staying.

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Originally Posted by The Don

@Chippiewill; stop being childish. The poll is over and the most popular choice is to leave them as they are. There isn't any more discussion to be had since they've been moved before to a different subforum which turned out to be a failure and more importantly, more people are in favour of it staying.

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It's not childish, It's a fundamental misreading of the results. More people are in favour of it moving than it staying.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

It's not childish, It's a fundamental misreading of the results. More people are in favour of it moving than it staying.

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it was a multiple choice poll so if people were so adamant about moving the threads they would have done what you did and voted for every other option, but they didn't. Catch-22, even if you win you still lose as chippiewill will find loopholes to get his own way.

if a thread is gd ppl will post in it. if its bad ppl wont post and it will flop down the forum to the bottom never to be seen again. chippiewill and the other boring ppl saying if a thread is gd in their opinion or not is irrelevant. no1 cares for ur opinion ur irrelevant and so are the other squares who want a subforum.

there is nothing stopping u making "proper discussion" in the discuss anything forum right now and this poll about fast threads makes no difference to proper discussion. u want proper discussion MAKE IT but we dont need to shift the entire forum about to suit that. if u make a discussion thread and it flops its cos ur thread isnt gd enough and no1 wants to post in it and nothing else (not that u ever make discussion threads so there is evidently no issue).

this all boils down to IF U LIKE A THREAD POST IN IT. IF U DONT LIKE IT DONT POST. this is common sense and wat ppl do anyway so there is no need to change anything :Innocent:

Let them stay, end of the day it's just another thing to enforce. It's not breaking the forum really, and it's the start of restricting people doing things which will make them post less.

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Originally Posted by subo

if a thread is gd ppl will post in it. if its bad ppl wont post and it will flop down the forum to the bottom never to be seen again. chippiewill and the other boring ppl saying if a thread is gd in their opinion or not is irrelevant. no1 cares for ur opinion ur irrelevant and so are the other squares who want a subforum.

there is nothing stopping u making "proper discussion" in the discuss anything forum right now and this poll about fast threads makes no difference to proper discussion. u want proper discussion MAKE IT but we dont need to shift the entire forum about to suit that. if u make a discussion thread and it flops its cos ur thread isnt gd enough and no1 wants to post in it and nothing else (not that u ever make discussion threads so there is evidently no issue).

this all boils down to IF U LIKE A THREAD POST IN IT. IF U DONT LIKE IT DONT POST. this is common sense and wat ppl do anyway so there is no need to change anything :Innocent:

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Sure, proper discussion can be created but the whole argument is based around these 'pointless' threads pushing high quality threads down the page, which makes sense.

I just think people need to stop being ******* eejits and posting stupid threads constantly every 2 mins. I don't see why mods can't just warn those people who are blatantly spamming the forum, use your noggin.

If mods are incapable of using their discretion maybe a sub forum for these threads is the right way to go. If they can, keep the threads but warn those who are creating the threads just to be utter *****.

have u not noticed that the original person in question has stopped doing these threads. plus he actually only started posting more and more after chippiewill complained just to annoy him lol it has stopped yet there is still complaining..

no matter what, the fast threads eventually die out, its not like someone does it everyday. new people might come onto the forum and genuinely wanna know the answers to all these kinda questions, which is often the case with newbies posting many threads or threads which have been created time and time again. yeah its annoying but i don't think it's fair to start moving all their threads and confusing them for the sake of the likes of chippewill. it'll happen on every forum especially as this forum has the ability to post anything you like but they may not know where exactly to put the threads.

all the threads by trolls will cease to exist once people stop complaining about them or replying to them and they will also cease to exist once new members get the hang of the forum and want to post more 'quality' discussions. its really annoying to see new members posting threads to be told WE ONLY HAVE LIKE A MILLION OF THESE THREADS

im not a troll :(

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Originally Posted by Richie

Sure, proper discussion can be created but the whole argument is based around these 'pointless' threads pushing high quality threads down the page, which makes sense.

I just think people need to stop being ******* eejits and posting stupid threads constantly every 2 mins. I don't see why mods can't just warn those people who are blatantly spamming the forum, use your noggin.

If mods are incapable of using their discretion maybe a sub forum for these threads is the right way to go. If they can, keep the threads but warn those who are creating the threads just to be utter *****.

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i think u were 1 of the ppl i was referencing. no1curr wat u think is a high quality thread evidently the best threads r the most popular 1s. u go make a thread that u think is of high quality and see the response. these threads pushing the other threads down r the 1s ppl want to post in. this is how a forum works. and dont give me pushing down BS cos i could say that ur discussion threads (jk they dont exist) were pushing down the fast threads. ppl stil have the ability to look down the threads and see which 1s they want to post in. fast threads r no more advantaged than discussion threads idk wtf ur talking about with pushing down that is moronic

as the queen of popularity (look at my +3 rep post on this page and hit threads) i feel that i speak for the masses and know wat the majority want (the cool ppl on this forum [not u]). i have hit the nail on the head with this topic. all these ppl who want intelligent discussion r clearly not that bright as they cannot seem 2 fathom how a forum works. it seems that u r jealous of ppl like myself that get hit threads and r trying 2 kill off the competition by reducing their post counts and tokens and move us to a subforum so u might just get a hit thread (still unlikely tbh). well how about we move all u bores off to a subforum so we not have 2 see ur horrible avis and unpopular threads??

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Originally Posted by subo

i think u were 1 of the ppl i was referencing. no1curr wat u think is a high quality thread evidently the best threads r the most popular 1s. u go make a thread that u think is of high quality and see the response. these threads pushing the other threads down r the 1s ppl want to post in. this is how a forum works. and dont give me pushing down BS cos i could say that ur discussion threads (jk they dont exist) were pushing down the fast threads. ppl stil have the ability to look down the threads and see which 1s they want to post in. fast threads r no more advantaged than discussion threads idk wtf ur talking about with pushing down that is moronic

as the queen of popularity (look at my +3 rep post on this page and hit threads) i feel that i speak for the masses and know wat the majority want (the cool ppl on this forum [not u]). i have hit the nail on the head with this topic. all these ppl who want intelligent discussion r clearly not that bright as they cannot seem 2 fathom how a forum works. it seems that u r jealous of ppl like myself that get hit threads and r trying 2 kill off the competition by reducing their post counts and tokens and move us to a subforum so u might just get a hit thread (still unlikely tbh). well how about we move all u bores off to a subforum so we not have 2 see ur horrible avis and unpopular threads??

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You're wrong, a lot of people just choose to post in those threads because it's a quick easy response to gain a post count or for whatever reason.

If you are honestly trying to argue that 'what colour is the tiles on your roof' is more popular than 'What inspires you the most to do something' because people find it more interesting.. god help us all.


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Originally Posted by Richie

You're wrong, a lot of people just choose to post in those threads because it's a quick easy response to gain a post count or for whatever reason.

If you are honestly trying to argue that 'what colour is the tiles on your roof' is more popular than 'What inspires you the most to do something' because people find it more interesting.. god help us all.


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To be fair, the 'What colour are the tiles on your roof' actually promoted discussion because some people didn't even know and had to think about it. There are some threads that are clearly spam-worthy and they should get moved there.

I would agree with you if the 'Don't post threads that generate little discussion' rule was enforced, but it hasn't been enforced since they removed the Assorted/Misc sub-forum. So these threads are allowed as long as they don't go off-topic.

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Originally Posted by Richie

You're wrong, a lot of people just choose to post in those threads because it's a quick easy response to gain a post count or for whatever reason.

If you are honestly trying to argue that 'what colour is the tiles on your roof' is more popular than 'What inspires you the most to do something' because people find it more interesting.. god help us all.


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the tile thread was a troll thread and is 1 example. i fail to see any threads like that any more. there is nothing to argue about regarding popularity...if a thread is more popular its more popular and u will deal with that. its how a forum works and if a thread is more popular than another obviously more ppl want to post in it and the majority rules, sorry!

p.s. dont call me dumb when im smarter than (u severely lack common sense)

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Originally Posted by subo

the tile thread was a troll thread and is 1 example. i fail to see any threads like that any more. there is nothing to argue about regarding popularity...if a thread is more popular its more popular and u will deal with that. its how a forum works

p.s. dont call me dumb when im smarter than (u severely lack common sense)

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I would look for more examples but I don't fancy spending hours digging through heaps of rubbish to find another thread that was created that doesn't give the impression 'I have the IQ of a 2 year old'.

Like I said, I don't think these threads would be an issue if mods just warned those that are blatantly creating threads just out of annoyance.

I really don't know what to say to the last part of your response, too funny.

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Originally Posted by Richie

I would look for more examples but I don't fancy spending hours digging through heaps of rubbish to find another thread that was created that doesn't give the impression 'I have the IQ of a 2 year old'.

Like I said, I don't think these threads would be an issue if mods just warned those that are blatantly creating threads just out of annoyance.

I really don't know what to say to the last part of your response, too funny.

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no1 is making excessive threads any more so there is no issue....u r complaining cos u dont like them so just dont post in them. v simple. the inspiration thread u mentioned, well that flopped cos its unbelievably boring and yes even a thread about wat colour ur tiles r is more interesting. there i said it.

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Originally Posted by subo

no1 is making excessive threads any more so there is no issue....u r complaining cos u dont like them so just dont post in them. v simple. the inspiration thread u mentioned, well that flopped cos its unbelievably boring and yes even a thread about wat colour ur tiles r is more interesting. there i said it.

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If that's what interests you then okay :D

im glad u have accepted ppls difference of opinion and r no longer trying 2 devalue the fast threads cos ur jealous. we have come 2 realise that not every1 that posts in a thread that u dont like is trying 2 gain post count and that this thread is spam. gr8.

now for chippiewill who has gone strangely quiet despite frequently lurking the thread.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Well, your argument is false really. Yes, Orange probably wouldn't be voted as most favourite if you looked into the stats, but if you are asked 'Which out of these options would you like' NOT 'Which fruit is your favourite', then Orange does win.

In this poll we were asked which of these choices would we like to happen, we were not asked 'Would you like them moved or not'.

Plus, you are only considering the multiple choice votes within the last option aren't you? 41 people picked the last and winning option, but you say only 29 of those people solely picked that option?

Then how many people solely picked the other options? I know I picked option 2, so that definitely doesn't have 34 unique votes, and I would be surprised if any of the other options have 29+ unique votes beating the winning option. (And the fact is, we don't even need to look at unique votes, if we did, the poll wouldn't have been set up for multiple choice).

Plus, looking at unique votes is pointless, since everyone who voted multiple options may have had preferences that wouldn't be taken into account. I voted for Option 2 and 5, but would prefer 5 over 2. You can't tell everyone's preferences in the poll.

TL;DR - Poll is done. It's clear who the winner is. People that are debating it really are just wanting their option to win :P (Although I'm sure you were an option 5 voter, I'll have to read through the thread again :P)

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Sorry, Kardan but I thought you were more intelligent than this lol. The poll was fundamentally flawed (on reflection). Let's put it this way, if you ask a question with ONE option to keep them as they are or FOUR options to have them moved elsewhere, then everyone who wants them to stay as they are only has ONE choice, whereas the others have FOUR choices, meaning those votes will be more spread out.

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Honestly I have lost interest in if they are moved or not, but it is ridiculous to pull the wool over your eyes when basic statistics shows that keeping them as they are is not the most popular option.

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Originally Posted by Marketing

Sorry, Kardan but I thought you were more intelligent than this lol. The poll was fundamentally flawed (on reflection). Let's put it this way, if you ask a question with ONE option to keep them as they are or FOUR options to have them moved elsewhere, then everyone who wants them to stay as they are only has ONE choice, whereas the others have FOUR choices, meaning those votes will be more spread out.

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Honestly I have lost interest in if they are moved or not, but it is ridiculous to pull the wool over your eyes when basic statistics shows that keeping them as they are is not the most popular option.

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That would be true except for one important thing, the poll was multiple choice. If someone's priority was "I want them moved from where they are now" they would tick the 4 options that would do that. We've been over this so many times now :P

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Originally Posted by Kardan

That would be true except for one important thing, the poll was multiple choice. If someone's priority was "I want them moved from where they are now" they would tick the 4 options that would do that. We've been over this so many times now :P

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I wanted them moved from where they are now, but ticked the options I deemed most suitable? As I said before it should be a "move" "don't move" question.

It may be multiple choice, but not all of us looked at it in that way..

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Originally Posted by Marketing

I wanted them moved from where they are now, but ticked the options I deemed most suitable? As I said before it should be a "move" "don't move" question.

It may be multiple choice, but not all of us looked at it in that way..

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Well whose fault is that? Certainly not the poll creator :P It was perfectly clear that it was multiple choice...

And it wasn't a 'Don't move/Move' poll, and why should it be? Why not a 'Post count enable/disabled' poll?

Basically, people are questioning the poll after the results are released (and not before!) and the people complaining are people that didn't pick the winning option...

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Well whose fault is that? Certainly not the poll creator :P It was perfectly clear that it was multiple choice...

And it wasn't a 'Don't move/Move' poll, and why should it be? Why not a 'Post count enable/disabled' poll?

Basically, people are questioning the poll after the results are released (and not before!) and the people complaining are people that didn't pick the winning option...

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If the results were not hidden during the poll and people suggested one was winning when it technically wasn't I would have pointed out the flaw.

Check my response to Chris in spam - that makes it nice and simple to work out.

If you give people four options for yes and one option no, then statistically the no option will appear the most popular.

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Originally Posted by Marketing

If the results were not hidden during the poll and people suggested one was winning when it technically wasn't I would have pointed out the flaw.

Check my response to Chris in spam - that makes it nice and simple to work out.

If you give people four options for yes and one option no, then statistically the no option will appear the most popular.

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In a single choice poll, that could very well be the case. In a multiple choice poll, people would go 'Well, I say yes, so I'll have all the yes options'...

Third time lucky though, the poll question was not 'Do you want these threads moved'

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Originally Posted by Kardan

In a single choice poll, that could very well be the case. In a multiple choice poll, people would go 'Well, I say yes, so I'll have all the yes options'...

Third time lucky though, the poll question was not 'Do you want these threads moved'

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... but four of the answers were effectively yes and one was no..

It is ridiculous to ask people what they want to happen to them and then say well they had to vote all the yes options whether they wanted it or not.

For example, I didn't want them to be banned altogether - that would be ridiculous, and I therefore didn't vote for it..

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Originally Posted by Marketing

... but four of the answers were effectively yes and one was no..

It is ridiculous to ask people what they want to happen to them and then say well they had to vote all the yes options whether they wanted it or not.

For example, I didn't want them to be banned altogether - that would be ridiculous, and I therefore didn't vote for it..

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There isn't four 'yes' options, as you can't answer 'yes' to 'What do you want to happen to these threads'.

And you need to realise, we were not asked 'Do you want these threads to be moved' anywhere, so stop getting so hung up about that :P

You felt like they had to be moved to a new sub-forum, so you ticked all the options that applied to you.

If someone felt like moving the threads to anywhere but where they were currently, they would have ticked the options that applied to them (1,2,3,4).

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Originally Posted by Kardan

There isn't four 'yes' options, as you can't answer 'yes' to 'What do you want to happen to these threads'.

And you need to realise, we were not asked 'Do you want these threads to be moved' anywhere, so stop getting so hung up about that :P

You felt like they had to be moved to a new sub-forum, so you ticked all the options that applied to you.

If someone felt like moving the threads to anywhere but where they were currently, they would have ticked the options that applied to them (1,2,3,4).

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I would have them banned or moved to spam before I kept them as they are - but I chose the options that would be preferential lol

AT the end of the day, there were four yes options - as in, four options that asked for them to be changed from what they are now - 62 people voted for them to NOT stay the same, 41 asked for them to stay the same lol

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Originally Posted by Marketing

I would have them banned or moved to spam before I kept them as they are - but I chose the options that would be preferential lol

AT the end of the day, there were four yes options - as in, four options that asked for them to be changed from what they are now - 62 people voted for them to NOT stay the same, 41 asked for them to stay the same lol

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In 2005, only 35% of the country voted for Blair to be Prime Minister. 65% didn't. What do we do there?

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Originally Posted by Kardan

In 2005, only 35% of the country voted for Blair to be Prime Minister. 65% didn't. What do we do there?

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Didn't you yourself say we are not doing it by a FPTP system.

However, yes that is indeed a criticism of the FPTP system that is covered with AS Level Politics students - that you need little of the vote to succeed.

Thanks for posting that flaw out though! ;)

I think people are just overcomplicating this tbh. The option which received the most votes out of all five options was to keep them as they are, and so that is what should be done. In fact, that's what should have just been done in the first place imo :P. The only thing I will say though, is that the results for all options are quite close really.