GOD

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Originally Posted by ReviewDude

Going deep here, just open your minds...

God has to exist. The proof of this:

Image what God would be, if he existed. Now, to most people, and a dictionary definition is that God is a 'perfect' being, the essence of perfect. No was yourself "What is more perfect, a God that exists, or one that doesn't?". Therefore a God that exists is more perfect than one that doesn't. A perfect God must exist. Of course, this doesn't prove He's a Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist God, but it at least one perfect God is there. Somewhere.

Of course, this also proves the existence of a perfect computer, or coffee table, because they would each be more perfect if they existed. So all these 'perfect' things, are out in the universe somewhere.

That's called the 'Ontological Argument' to the existence of God. There's more here:

Enjoy this - It's long.

Or it's all summed up in a video, here:

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Unlukly the ontological argument has more flaws than a golf ball has dimples and you seem to have missed the point of it.
1) It doesn't prove the existence of god, It was never even intended to, What it trys to prove is that theres a contradiction in saying god does not exist.
Yet Existence aint a predicate, its a state hence cannot be attributed to god via definition or have any levels. You ether exist or you dont, you cant exist perfectly.

most of the wiki entery is just critisms and reasons why the argument fails so misrably "/

God is infinity. People just find it hard to imagine. If something's infinital then it has always been there and always will be there, with no beginning and no end. No creation involved. The Earth had to have been created because the Universe is not infinital, it will end at some point and thus had a point of origin, it did not just appear from no where. We exist within a finital space, God exists within an infinital space.

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Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

God is infinity. People just find it hard to imagine. If something's infinital then it has always been there and always will be there, with no beginning and no end. No creation involved. The Earth had to have been created because the Universe is not infinital, it will end at some point and thus had a point of origin, it did not just appear from no where. We exist within a finital space, God exists within an infinital space.

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You cant just say stuff is becuse it is. You cannot prove the universe isnt infinate any more than you can prove god is. if god can be why cant the universe also be? and if it can why do you need god "/

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Originally Posted by 01101101entor

You cant just say stuff is becuse it is. You cannot prove the universe isnt infinate any more than you can prove god is. if god can be why cant the universe also be? and if it can why do you need god "/

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The universe is proven to be finital, it will end therefore it started. The Universe does not contain an infinital number of particles or matter nor does it go on forever. We are basically living within a finital bubble in which logic and laws apply to us that most likely do not apply to God. God is because God exists outside our finital space, the infinital space in which God exists is probably heaven.

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Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

The universe is proven to be finital, it will end therefore it started. The Universe does not contain an infinital number of particles or matter nor does it go on forever. We are basically living within a finital bubble in which logic and laws apply to us that most likely do not apply to God. God is because God exists outside our finital space, the infinital space in which God exists is probably heaven.

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Well last time i checked we aint actaly mesured it? so no its not proven "/ your just assumeing it does "/
Plus infinite space is a contradition in terms "/

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Originally Posted by ReviewDude

Going deep here, just open your minds...

God has to exist. The proof of this:

Image what God would be, if he existed. Now, to most people, and a dictionary definition is that God is a 'perfect' being, the essence of perfect. No was yourself "What is more perfect, a God that exists, or one that doesn't?". Therefore a God that exists is more perfect than one that doesn't. A perfect God must exist. Of course, this doesn't prove He's a Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist God, but it at least one perfect God is there. Somewhere.

Of course, this also proves the existence of a perfect computer, or coffee table, because they would each be more perfect if they existed. So all these 'perfect' things, are out in the universe somewhere.

That's called the 'Ontological Argument' to the existence of God. There's more here:

Enjoy this - It's long.

Or it's all summed up in a video, here:

This contains some mild profanity - Enjoy this as well!


:)

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Congradulations, that proves nothing.

What I don't understand if there is a god is why can't he show himself? It makes no sense. I know in this world we cant believe it, but what if god could just talk to us normally? And we could see him? Why can't he do that? I dont understand the secrecy and the hiding from everyone.

And if god is perfect, why would we even be having this conversation? We would all know the answer.

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Originally Posted by 01101101entor

Well last time i checked we aint actaly mesured it? so no its not proven "/ your just assumeing it does "/
Plus infinite space is a contradition in terms "/

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The Universe is known to be about 14 billion years old. Light from way back when the Universe started still comes through on telescopes. The big bang was an infinitely dense point of time in which the Universe started, and the big bang was most certainly caused by God. Humans knowledge of everything, especially the universe, is minute. With our current knowledge and vocbulary, we couldn't even begin to describe God.

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Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

The Universe is known to be about 14 billion years old. Light from way back when the Universe started still comes through on telescopes. The big bang was an infinitely dense point of time in which the Universe started, and the big bang was most certainly caused by God. Humans knowledge of everything, especially the universe, is minute. With our current knowledge and vocbulary, we couldn't even begin to describe God.

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I dont realy know if you can mesure how long the universe has been there by how long the stars have... If that were true i could judge how long the worlds been here by how long humans have lived on it "/
If it was infiatlty dence the universe would be infinate anyway...

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Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

The Universe is known to be about 14 billion years old. Light from way back when the Universe started still comes through on telescopes. The big bang was an infinitely dense point of time in which the Universe started, and the big bang was most certainly caused by God. Humans knowledge of everything, especially the universe, is minute. With our current knowledge and vocbulary, we couldn't even begin to describe God.

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The big bang is a theory, like any theory; it has not been proved

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Originally Posted by Persevare

The big bang is a theory, like any theory; it has not been proved

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The Big Bang isnt a Theary, Its the collective name given to about a few million thearys and varients, each differering from the others, some minutly some massivly. M-theary, String-theary? there the thearys,

There was an exsposion and it created the universe doesn't pass as a theary "/
True its proven there was a big bang, as in a massive explosion from which matter went flying everywhere, but nothings to say thats the begining of the universe? and that doesnt help prove how the explosion came to be? what was there? how it happened? so is pretty useless "/