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But why don't you recs are stupid - I've thought "Hey I want a trial!" So I know I have to get a rec and I've tried to be active and everything. But seemingly enough apparently I don't deserve one and someone gets a trial over me - I'm not trying to rant but applications is a much more fairer system so that everyone has a CHANCE to apply. And people in the HxHD wouldn't get chosen because as manager you should be considering a trial based on their app not on how active they are, basically quality not frequency

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Other people are ALOT more active than you, and yes everone does have a chance but as we have a 12 staff limit we need the best staff, everyone does have a chance, hence why I think apps wouldnt give us the best person

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Originally Posted by dogboy123

I completely disagree with the applications, reccomendations are a great way of seeing who should get staff as we can see how they are in the desk, aslo it gives staff a chance to say who they want as staff and with applications i think you get loads of randomers applying who dont even know what HxHD is. However reccomendations are accurate.

Change happens, as now its a lounge (dont kill me for saying that) we didnt need as many staff members. Hence no need for TLs etc. And theres no point hiring tls for when say 6months or w.e theres a new manager a tl is there, within a few days I'll be settled in.

With Jin the new owner of the desk, he's on habbo alot more to change the layouts and new ones are planned :)

We do run 2 quizzes a month with the oppertunity to win Vip, I'll get this sorted :)!

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thats where your wrong. i actually tried getting recommended as hxhd, i sat in hxhd for a week helping people when staff were afk or when they cba... this was like 2 months ago and nothing? lol

and i cnt always be at the help desk, but if i WAS staff i would be... same with other members.

apps are great... recommendation sucks.

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Originally Posted by dogboy123

Other people are ALOT more active than you, and yes everone does have a chance but as we have a 12 staff limit we need the best staff, everyone does have a chance, hence why I think apps wouldnt give us the best person

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Can you please understand, you aren't always in the desk, no one is... So how can you know who is active and who isn't we all have lives and we will be on at different times how do YOU know that people are active, they may just go into the help desk when staff are around, using apps and interviews you can clearly separate people: PEOPLE WORTH A TRIAL - PEOPLE NOT WORTH A TRIAL and shortlist and then BAM 1-2 trialists who actually deserve it.

But... If you don't want apps why not test them out - bring them out once and if it works keep them you won't be disappointed!

You get the best staff? i'm pretty sure someone asked a simple question about how to change/view badges in BETA and 2 of your staff couldn't answer him, lol.

Clearly getting the best, most knowledgable staff though recommendations aren't you. :rolleyes:

And not everyone has a chance, cause say for example

Person A has been coming to HxHD for 2 weeks, is helpful, friendly and in for about 3-4 hours a day

Person B has been coming to HxHD for 3 days, is much more helpful, friendly and alot more active

If you were to rec someone tomorrow due to a position opening up, person A would get it as they've been there longer, where as Person B is more helpful and more active, just hasn't been coming for long but has started now.

So its not completely accurate, plus the flaw with recommending friends

Back in the day when DJ-3000 owned the desk and I was assistant manager (that was a long time ago) whenever we got Recs in we would observe the people who got recced first and see if they did deserve it or not.

Applications are a good idea because it does show those who actually want to become staff to help and those who just want to do it for the fame. Yes going through 120 applications can be tedious (45 trialists at one time was a pain in the behind :)) but interviews did sort out the men from the boys as to say.

The question behind it is that can the manager really be bothered to go through applications and do interviews? If they don't then why have the job ;) Was the same when being radio manager with the added sound clip attached on the application

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Originally Posted by scottish

You get the best staff? i'm pretty sure someone asked a simple question about how to change/view badges in BETA and 2 of your staff couldn't answer him, lol.

Clearly getting the best, most knowledgable staff though recommendations aren't you. :rolleyes:

And not everyone has a chance, cause say for example

Person A has been coming to HxHD for 2 weeks, is helpful, friendly and in for about 3-4 hours a day

Person B has been coming to HxHD for 3 days, is much more helpful, friendly and alot more active

If you were to rec someone tomorrow due to a position opening up, person A would get it as they've been there longer, where as Person B is more helpful and more active, just hasn't been coming for long but has started now.

So its not completely accurate, plus the flaw with recommending friends

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exactly what happened to me.

and if we want a trial, we have to sit in hxhd for weeks hoping we will get noticed and get recommended:S?

As so many of you have said you'd like it, I'll speak to nvr about it :)

@Angel - ofc i can be bothered, if we get the best staff at the end of the day, I dont mind how many applications I have to go through

Just be thankful you're not forum manager. They get loads of applications :P

I think recommendations are a bit dodgy tbh. There are too many factors to consider when hiring someone. You can normally see all these factors in a good application form but hiring someone from word of mouth (oh yes he's good, have a look). People can change their personality if they know they're being watched (woo for psychology!).

What to do while you're reading through applications? Drink some cola from the... cola machine (hehe had to get it in somewhere).

This is a lot of pressure for ben on his first day, frankly I think we need to set the bar so to speak.

Why not give applications a trial run, it will satisfy us and you can compare the difference.

Make a poll: "Should applications return?"

The help desk is aimed at the people so take in the people's opinions. People saying the classic help desk failed, well this "lounge" fails. You need fairness - this is the only department which bases its staff on recs, which is lousy and no offense but plain lazy. Part of a manager position is to hire the best staff, applications give you the best 100% without anything flawed or cheated. NOTHING compares to Applications. Why must recs still be there it failed with Jaiisun & Leah, don't let it fail again other wise the Help Desk will become inactive.

When applications were there you got the best staff, remember Dan, Jake, Hailey, Joe, David & so on, they were good at the job they lasted long and took time but these new staff simply last a week and they get bored, because they try hard before they get a rec and then get a trial, but if they get hired they are like cba and chill at some randomers room?

STRICT POLICAY PLEASE

Few things to add :)

With recs, I think they are stupid and should be scrapped for Applications. You seem to be forgetting, if there are trials. Most times with HxHD, there only used to be 3-5 people hired at a time with Apps. If you open apps, then most the time you accept about 10 on a trial, then only the best actually get a job. It's not like if you have 2 spaces avaliable then you can only accept two people, you can accept as many as you like, but only two can get through the trial. I think apps is better as it will get you, instead of two people that have been recommended, and let's face it, people do pick mates and I don't care what anyone says its the truth, you can have a number of people, who actually want the job and will work hard to pass the trial, and then you can pick two of the best from several people, that way you know they will work hard.

No to TL's, not enough staff.

Anyway, No Idea why Leah resigned, I can't ask her cus my msn is broken :@ But, well done to Ben, you deserve manager and I'm sure you'll do a great job! :D