HxHD Updates!

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Originally Posted by dogboy123

Can I clear something up.

We want staff that are active, helpful and chatty etc. With reccomendations we can see all this in action and reccomend those who do this. You can say its biased I couldn't really give two craps, I know its not and thats all that matters. With applications, the only people that'd really get a trial would be the ones who'd get reccd anyway. Applications are pointless when you can get such a clear idea of how they behave in the HxHD. YOu can't tell their behavior in the desk through a PM and don't say ooh thats what a trials for as if we know BEFORE their trial they are active and have good conduct in the desk then we know they're fit for a trial before rather than just taking a guess and hoping they're as active and well behaved as they say

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Ouch that hurts :P
When someone says competitions are crap, I don't say 'I know they're not so that doesn't matter.' I listen to what they say and we try to improve on it. If it fails, it fails and we can say 'well we gave it a go, it didn't work.' To completely dismiss valid points as 'a bunch of crap' doesn't sound very fair to me!

Although I think the staff do know their stuff. "90% don't know what a keylogger is" sounds like an exaggeration to me. I'm mostly against recommendations as it is a case of knowing the staff behind the desk as much as it is actually being helpful.

If you went to hxhd and asked you'd see.

I've asked a few times and been completely blanked by staff, or their reply saying don't know or ask on hxf.

I don't see why this thread has turned into a argument about HxHD management. A lot of you are saying about recommendations being bias, they may have been in the past but not at this moment in time. Looking at the thread of recommendations I think every person who will get a trial/interview deserves it.

- Recommendations

They CAN be biased but used in the right way can be a good and professional system. I've found that recommendations can be used in a way which can be unbiased. It's still difficult and really tests you, but it doesn't give everyone a chance. There are more disadvantages to advantages with recommendations so it is a flawed system.

- Applications

Fair, they test your knowledge, but do not test your activity (trialists can only show up for trial but not for rest losing interest). Applications are a fairer way to hire staff, systems are always biased - this is LESS biased. Applications is used by all departments, it lets everyone have a go and staff can be good quality. Their knowledge can be tested and their activity can be tested later - if they suck you can fire them :)

All in all I prefer applications more than recommendations. I still think applications should be reinstated but interviews are a step forward from biased to unbiased. To answer what someone said about Ben being a "crap" manager, he's doing fine, now roll in the "You're a suck up" comments. But he's doing well, I still think he's doing the wrong thing by using recommendations, so yeah :)

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Originally Posted by Molly.22

I don't see why this thread has turned into a argument about HxHD management. A lot of you are saying about recommendations being bias, they may have been in the past but not at this moment in time. Looking at the thread of recommendations I think every person who will get a trial/interview deserves it.

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your only saying that cause your mates gave you your recommendations :S:S

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Originally Posted by Molly.22

I don't see why this thread has turned into a argument about HxHD management. A lot of you are saying about recommendations being bias, they may have been in the past but not at this moment in time. Looking at the thread of recommendations I think every person who will get a trial/interview deserves it.

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Because the management replied with such stupid things such as i don't care and thinking hes right no matter what other people think.... lol.

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Originally Posted by Dusty-09

- Recommendations

They CAN be biased but used in the right way can be a good and professional system. I've found that recommendations can be used in a way which can be unbiased. It's still difficult and really tests you, but it doesn't give everyone a chance. There are more disadvantages to advantages with recommendations so it is a flawed system.

- Applications

Fair, they test your knowledge, but do not test your activity (trialists can only show up for trial but not for rest losing interest). Applications are a fairer way to hire staff, systems are always biased - this is LESS biased. Applications is used by all departments, it lets everyone have a go and staff can be good quality. Their knowledge can be tested and their activity can be tested later - if they suck you can fire them :)

All in all I prefer applications more than recommendations. I still think applications should be reinstated but interviews are a step forward from biased to unbiased. To answer what someone said about Ben being a "crap" manager, he's doing fine, now roll in the "You're a suck up" comments. But he's doing well, I still think he's doing the wrong thing by using recommendations, so yeah :)

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i think someones after a recommendation..........................

god you're a suck up dusty-09

Recs have always worked fairly well. When your not often in need of staff they work fine as you might get just one or two recs a month. Just the the interview stage of the application process, it was always being removed and then brought back by others. It is a long process but it sorts those out from who really do and dont want the job and there knowledge. I remember spending 4 hours once holding interviews for possible candidates, they whittled down to just a few all of whom passed and some then went on to become Managers and Assts of the department so they obviously do work.

Good in my opinion lol.

I think it's great that staff will now be interviewed before being offered a trial however I am against only recommendations.

Fair enough if you only need one or so staff, now that there's interviews it'll make sure the people recommended know what they're on about. I think applications should be open every now and again though too. When I applied for HxHD I'd only been in once or twice before yet I stayed in the department for around a year and ended up as assistant manager. I've seen applications work for myself and some of the best staff have been found that way (that wasn't meaning myself).

Also whoever said you can't tell someone's personality from an application, you can from the interview which *should* follow it (or used to anyway).

Basically I think recommendations are fine for hiring one new trialist at a time but applications are better and should be opened every now and again. Well done to Ben though for trying to implement some new changes :)

Im starting to see where you're all coming from.

However, reccomendations have worked sofar, as most of the staff are here as of reccomendations they must be going right somewhere.

I'll talk to David about applications and see what he says :)

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Originally Posted by lick

your only saying that cause your mates gave you your recommendations :S:S

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Do you just wanna start arguments?