Ethnic Minorities - What do you think

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

It is widely accepted, just look at US prisons aswell. This PC government would never publish something that would backup what i'm claiming, and even if it did; would I believe a word they said? - no.

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We are talking about the UK here. And like I said, the news suggests there are more white criminals then blacks/asians etc.

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Originally Posted by SauravG

We are talking about the UK here. And like I said, the news suggests there are more white criminals then blacks/asians etc.

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Does it? It suggests that the most high publicity crimes are committed by white people. It does not cover all crimes.

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Originally Posted by SauravG

We are talking about the UK here. And like I said, the news suggests there are more white criminals then blacks/asians etc.

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As Wig said, especially when it comes to gang warfare it appears to be minorities causing the trouble mostly. Indeed we are talking about the United Kingdom, a country which is very similar to the United States.. just more soft.

Unless you can show me the goverment statistics on how many minorities and how many white people are in jail, your argument is not valid. I can make any statement but its not really valid unless I back it up with evidence which is vital in Debates.
I think those statistics would be available somewhere.
I can simple say "most people in jails in this country are white people" and I can't simply expect you to accept that statement without me providing reliable statistics.

And UK is not similar to USA. UK is 92.1% white (source) while America is only 74% (source).

The government will not do statistics on crime relating to race because it would make their immigration 'policy' just look like the failure it is, so no I cannot provide statistics on the matter, but i'll say this; sterotypes don't come from nowhere.

On the population, I am not talking about the population of each country - I am talking about prison and the problem that both countries have when it comes to multi-culturalism.

Seeing as you have no proof that the prisons in UK are full of minorities, I am not going continue debating about this point as there is no proof of it.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

The government will not do statistics on crime relating to race because it would make their immigration 'policy' just look like the failure it is, so no I cannot provide statistics on the matter, but i'll say this; sterotypes don't come from nowhere.

On the population, I am not talking about the population of each country - I am talking about prison and the problem that both countries have when it comes to multi-culturalism.

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So as a summary, you don't have any facts to prove your theories and are just blindly chucking accusations.

Gang warefare is a mixture between ethnic minorities and whatever you want to call Brits (not white people, there's been a mixture for years so the oldest generation of african, indian, asian and so forth are technically considered into the equation). But most of the uncalled for crimes seem to be done by white people - child bashing, wife smacking, drug and people trafficking (big one at the moment) and so forth. Gang warefare, though serious, isn't just between ethnic minorities and is somewhat uncontrollable. Although they do cause alot of problems, the major (and arguably serious) crimes seem to be commited by "white" brits causing trouble for themselves and those around them.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

So as a summary, you don't have any facts to prove your theories and are just blindly chucking accusations.

Gang warefare is a mixture between ethnic minorities and whatever you want to call Brits (not white people, there's been a mixture for years so the oldest generation of african, indian, asian and so forth are technically considered into the equation). But most of the uncalled for crimes seem to be done by white people - child bashing, wife smacking, drug and people trafficking (big one at the moment) and so forth. Gang warefare, though serious, isn't just between ethnic minorities and is somewhat uncontrollable. Although they do cause alot of problems, the major (and arguably serious) crimes seem to be commited by "white" brits causing trouble for themselves and those around them.

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From what I have seen, that is how I get my opinion. Infact in the states its widely a problem of 'black youths turning to crime/gangs' and I believe the same is happening here, multi-culturalism is not working properly nowadays and as a man on Question Time said yesterday (a muslim) - people are not connecting with eachother, and that is leading to racial ghettos to put it frank.

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Originally Posted by SauravG

We are talking about the UK here. And like I said, the news suggests there are more white criminals then blacks/asians etc.

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Here is a recent post you made, you did it to show us how high the amount of white people there are in this country and how small the amount of ethnic minorities is.

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Originally Posted by SauravG

Before I say anything, please note that no racism is allowed.

Many people dislike having ethnic minorities and many people don't mind them at all. Some think they steal benefits etc while others think they create jobs and help the economy.

What do you think of them and why? Should they be allowed benefits? Do you like them or dislike them? And why?

Below are some figures:

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Edited by invincible (Forum Super Moderator): To reiterate the OP's point, racism will not be tolerated and any racists posts made will be dealt with appropriately.

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You can't deny that you see a lot of ethnic minorities on the news causing no end of trouble. If you watch crime watch they usually have a wall full of pictures and say "this man did this, this man did that, if you recognise any of them please phone in" I honestly think that in every single crime watch I have seen over 75% of the people on the wall are not white. I think I have seen many more ethnic minorities on the news for doing bad things too. But at the end of the day, according to your statistics 92.1% of the UK population is white. That is a massive percentage so surely you are bound to see more whites committing crime? The truth is far from that, there is only 7.9% of non whites in the country yet we seem to see more of them on the news for crimes, that is unbelievable. Could you imagine the amount of crime if them results were the other way around? 92.1% of non whites in this country? It's not even funny, it's scary.

I see more white people on crime watch and the news ... its scary!
I went to Moss side the other day and man there were so many chav white people it was scary. These two chav white woman got on the bus today in Moss Side, they were both on the phone and didn't stop swearing till they got to the city center.