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Originally Posted by
Oli
Interesting, 2017... considering there has to be an election every 5 years, they are making a promise for a year that they may not even be in power :rolleyes:
Evidently just a response to Labour giving free internet/laptops to needy homes.
At the end of the day this is just pre-election fodder, Labour will do things to get the vote and then the Tories will try and get one over on them, although at the end of the day menial things such as these will never happen anyway because whatever Government we elect will have more important things to deal with.
Don't fix what isn't broken, vote Labour.
Hang on, you mean like Labour promised electoral reform when they gained office in 1997 and 13 years later we've had nothing?
You mean like Labour promised in their 2005 election manifesto to give the British people a referendum on EU reformal but then went back on that?
At the end of the day while the new Conservatives are not Conservative at all and are just like Labour, i'd much rather the Tories who have a few good eggs in the basket be in office than the shower of inept career-politicians we have in now who when Thatcher was in office were against the whole idea of the Lords, against Trident, against war, against just about anything that the Conservatives stood for but now in office, they have suddenly changed what they stand for.
If you think a country with crippling debts, with breakdown on the streets and a country which is the laughing stock of the world isn't broken then perhaps your own views are truly broken.
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Lovin' how you put the Recession and the Expenses Scandal to Labour's blame.
The recession was worldwide and was going to happen whoever was in power, it could have been a lot worse than it was, I mean, we didn't go into hyperinflation or anything and lets face it things have been getting better moneywise for quite a while.
The MP expenses were based on parliamentary rules (or lack of) from years ago, nothing to do with Labour and if you read the reports properly, more Tory MPs abused the expenses system than Labour MPs. It was a system put in years ago (therefore can't blame Labour) and as every single human being would, the MPs got greedy in this materialistic age of post modernity.
You really can't put these two things to Labours blame, as for the other things:
Sorry, I can truthfully tell you now that if I were serving my area in parliament there is no way on gods green earth that I would decietfully rip them off like that - poor excuse and isn't an excuse at all. All human beings also want what others have, does that make it an excuse for theft?
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- Healthcare
We have one of the best healthcare systems in the world, although other countries may have better hospitals with more equipment, of course they do, because patients pay. I know someone who was in Berlin on a stag party, got knocked down some concrete stairs and was in intensive care for a month. His mother got a £50,000 bill as the insurance company wouldn't pay out as he had consumed alcohol (by the way insurance companies judge "alcohol consumption" by the particular countries drink driving limit, which in Europe is 0% alcohol is allowed before driving), so unless you want to start paying thousands of pounds for your life, I'd stop moaning about the healthcare system because the only way we can afford to improve it is to increase taxes or make people pay.
Wrong, totally wrong. You have the wrong idea just as the Labour Party has. The NHS can be solved with better management, throwing money at something does not solve it;- hence why are are worse off now than we were before 1997 and we have a burden of debt which will not be lifted for decades which stifles business.
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- Education
There will be plans to improve education whoever gets voted in, unless you vote UKIP or BNP they'll be two busy getting rid of all the non-whites.
Oli, tell me now where and when UKIP have said they will get rid of non-whites? - you know, instead of making things up you'd stand a far better chance of getting your point across with reality than rather than resorting to porky pies.
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- War
I'm gonna be honest, but if you think Michael Howard and the Conservative Party wouldn't have participated in the Afghan or Iraqi invasions then you really don't know much about Politics. Whoever was in power would have followed the yanks, no matter what.
Vote Labour, the tories will only raise your taxes and abolish support for the lower classes.
Oh so because you think the Conservatives might of gone along with the Iraq invasion thats ok then that over one million innocent people are dead - talk about standards, morales and tribal politics.
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Demala
Tories have always talked out their arse. Funny how they always have different, revolutionary ideas - yet they never seem to happen :S
And who the hell blamed Labour for the recession :S That started in Margaret Thatchers time.. (however you spell her first name lol)
You mean Margaret Thatcher, the Prime Minister who rescued this country from the rot that is socialism and turned the United Kingdom around from one of the worst economies in the world (our nickname was the sick man of Europe) to one of the best economies in the world?
The woman who kept taxes low so business could flourish (as it did) and people could afford the luxaries that America and Europe had already acquired many years before?
The woman who allowed millions (who otherwise would not be able to afford their own home in their lifetime) to buy their own homes so that when they are older they dont have to rely on the state?
Again, as clearly shown by other posts in this thread half of this stuff I am reading which is coming from the left is made up or simply not true.