Mephedrone

Adamm, I think you've got to that stage where you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

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Originally Posted by Adamm

I don't see the point, at all. I can have a good time without them so why should I spend god knows how much to endanger my life somewhat?

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What are you going to do all your life for god's sake!? Are you never going to go sky diving? Are you never going to visit a fun fair? Heck, practically everything endangers your life somewhat and are paid for. The reason you'll do them is because it is more morally and socially acceptable. Or perhaps because it's illegal, you could never do drugs because that would be so bad. You know, breaking the law and that.

And if we're going to bring up maturity, perhaps you're not the best person to talk about it. From your posts, I seem far, far, far more mature than you were/will be at my age.

Luke - perhaps you should read everything before commenting. One, because this is a drone thread, not meth. And two, because no one has been ranting about the need to be high to get on with their mates?

Misawa - what lNaughtynemo said.

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Originally Posted by Adamm

I'm posting about drugs. It's related.

Find a rule that stops me.

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i just dont see why you expect to get your views loved, when u post in a thread aimed at drug users. it just doesnt make any sense

I am fully against drugs now. Last year I lost 3 close mates and a cusion(sp) through drugs. I used to take cocaine, speed, MDMA etc but gave it all up when my best friend commited suiside because he was too addicted to cocaine. My other 2 friends used drugs to overcome their guilt for his death and one passed away sniffing glue. 3 weeks ago my friend died on a drug binge. He had Meow Meow, Cocaine, Ketamine, MDMA and crack in his system and he died from a heart attack.

I don't even like my friends smoking weed when I'm around. I'm not going to preech you all to not do drugs as I used to do it before but I've had a serious wakeup call.

With all due sensitivity and respect, the guy mixed five *Removed* drugs, what did he expect!?


Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter.

An expencive night out lol.

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Originally Posted by H0BJ0B

It's sad because I know that non-drug users will never get to experience what I have. The bonds you make with friends, the experiences you share, and everything about the drug taking I do is so great and unreal, you'd never understand without being through it.

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I'm a recreational drug user (when I can afford to be) and as much as I enjoy it, the best things about friendships do not and should not require anything but your own supply of endorphins. Yes, you can have plenty of good times on drugs, and that's fine, but to suggest drug-taking as a hugely life changing experience like you seem to be doing doesn't quite fit.

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Originally Posted by H0BJ0B

Or perhaps it's because Misawa decided to cut that bit out and from there everyone misread it. My post didn't say the drugs gave you the experiences you'd love to cherish. My post said, and I quote: "Drugs can open your eyes to things you would have never seen before, to experiences you'll cherish for your life, and they feel so damn good whilst under the influence." My post CLEARLY says that the drugs OPEN YOUR EYES to experiences you'll cherish.

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If you suggest that you need the drugs to "open your eyes" to the experiences then that amounts to the same thing - you're still saying it no matter what order you put the words in.

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Originally Posted by H0BJ0B

I'm surprised from your viewpoints you've been expressing that you'd be one to suggest I have the wrong attitude to drugs. I know exactly what I'm doing with drugs, I know I won't go into anything without researching, I know I'm still above everyone in my year and centre of education intellectually, I know I have an extremely healthy social life outside of the drug world also. So, an utterly daft thing to say on your part would be more appropriate I guess. I suppose it's virtually impossible to show any of you what it's like over the internet as I'm trying, but I'm telling you for one that I am definitely not one of those who has the "entirely wrong attitude to drugs."

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My view on drugs is that everyone should be free to experiment if they so wish, but that it should be an entirely personal choice (as I've said before) and no-one should attempt to interfere with someone elses ideals concerning whatever substances are floating about unless someone is in actual danger or their activites are affecting others negatively. Personally I don't think there's anything more annoying than kids talking about how much they love the drugs they do - it ranks up there with people who count their drinks so that they can tell you all about how much they had in the morning. Informed discussion of the effects is fine, but as you're claiming that it's "impossible" to relate your experiences properly that's obviously not what's going on here. You are openly advertising drugs as an unmissable miracle and making suggestions to people about taking them - even to the point of attacking people for not taking drugs - which is clearly not compliant with my views, so not really sure what you're surprised about.

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Originally Posted by Misawa

Drugs AREN'T a part of growing up and I think you'll find a lot more people have abstained from narcotics than have dabbled. You're fine with your friends going out with cocaine? Jesus... They can die just from snorting it once. That's messed up.

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Narcotics probably isn't the right term to be using, as none of the drugs mentioned (and certainly not mephedrone, which is a cathinone) are narcotic. On the point though, I'm fine with friends doing drugs as long as they're informed and know what they're doing. Cocaine isn't really a problem because none of us can afford it anyway, and I'm not really that big on it because it's simply too little for the price you pay even when I do have money to burn. I feel I'm back to my old point about users vs abusers.

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Originally Posted by H0BJ0B

What are you going to do all your life for god's sake!? Are you never going to go sky diving? Are you never going to visit a fun fair? Heck, practically everything endangers your life somewhat and are paid for. The reason you'll do them is because it is more morally and socially acceptable. Or perhaps because it's illegal, you could never do drugs because that would be so bad. You know, breaking the law and that.

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How very rebellious, goading someone for not wanting to break the law. If that is his reasoning (or even a part of it) then that's up to him and he should be commended for sticking to his principles, rather than trying to pull the big move by showing contempt for the law and law-abiding peoples.

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Originally Posted by H0BJ0B

Luke - perhaps you should read everything before commenting. One, because this is a drone thread, not meth.

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He mistyped meph as meth - you can tell this by reading his post and deducing that he is describing both the effects and legality of mephedrone. Gotta love irony.

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Originally Posted by Adamm

Jayme, are you going to accept our views? That's the thing about opinions, there's more than yours.

I have never tried drugs and I never will. I don't see the point, at all. I can have a good time without them so why should I spend god knows how much to endanger my life somewhat? Yes, HOBJOB, you were acting, in this thread, like drugs are normal and that everyone should do them. You were also acting 'cool' and you said "fanx babez" which contradicts what you said (that you were mature).

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Yes my friend, i do accept your views. I totally understand if somebody doesn't want to go near drugs and i do NOT pressure people into it, its 100% their choice and i don't encourage drug taking what so ever.

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Originally Posted by IceNineKills

I am fully against drugs now. Last year I lost 3 close mates and a cusion(sp) through drugs. I used to take cocaine, speed, MDMA etc but gave it all up when my best friend commited suiside because he was too addicted to cocaine. My other 2 friends used drugs to overcome their guilt for his death and one passed away sniffing glue. 3 weeks ago my friend died on a drug binge. He had Meow Meow, Cocaine, Ketamine, MDMA and crack in his system and he died from a heart attack.

I don't even like my friends smoking weed when I'm around. I'm not going to preech you all to not do drugs as I used to do it before but I've had a serious wakeup call.

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I'm realy sorry to hear that pal, you've had a hard time.
Without sounding insensitive, your friend had a cocktail of drugs that really only could've ended two ways - death or a trip to E&A.
Still though, nobody should have to loose friends, im sorry for you man.

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Originally Posted by IceNineKills

I am fully against drugs now. Last year I lost 3 close mates and a cusion(sp) through drugs. I used to take cocaine, speed, MDMA etc but gave it all up when my best friend commited suiside because he was too addicted to cocaine. My other 2 friends used drugs to overcome their guilt for his death and one passed away sniffing glue. 3 weeks ago my friend died on a drug binge. He had Meow Meow, Cocaine, Ketamine, MDMA and crack in his system and he died from a heart attack.

I don't even like my friends smoking weed when I'm around. I'm not going to preech you all to not do drugs as I used to do it before but I've had a serious wakeup call.

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This is the post to take notice of - I too have lost a friend to drugs. It happens a great deal around here. :(

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Originally Posted by H0BJ0B

With all due sensitivity and respect, the guy mixed five *Removed* drugs, what did he expect!?

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Did you see he lost 3 mates and a cousin not just one who mixed some drugs up. That's 4 people that he knows that have died from drugs. That's an horrendus waste of life. I do believe that drugs alter the level of perception and judgment. What maybe okay for one is most definitely not okay for another. Also you cannot compare the amount of people who die from skydiving or going to funfares - there could be no comparison. People die from the effects of drugs every day. It's a cliched argument to try and give people a 'legitimate' reason to take them. The extremely negative effects drugs has on our society should not be brushed away in such a flippant manner.

See, HOBJOB, I respect Jayme because he's not singing praises from the hills about drugs because it does more harm than good.

Skydiving is a bit different to taking illegal substances. I really question your outlook on drugs, I really do. I'm not posting in this thread until you grow up and actually realise what taking drugs involves and everything to do with it.

I hardly take this forum seriously anymore, HOBJOB, which is why most of my posts are nonsense but on specific topics such as this, I will express my viewpoint. I am arguing, yes, because this is my opinion on drugs and 'mephadrone' which is what the thread it about, yes? If you didn't want two sides to an argument maybe you shouldn't of started a thread on a forum...

I am mature when I need to be, I'm 18, don't try and undermine me either. I don't have a problem with drug users or smokers as long as they don't do it in my face and/or complain about lack of money/motivation/etc to me.

I think you're a complete idiot :)
gonna be dealing next are you?
pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
Have a nice life Junkie