Woman to be stoned to death in Iran for adultery

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Originally Posted by Saurav

What about sticking their nose in the African Forest bit?

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What about it? I'm not talking about trees, you didn't even respond to what I wrote... I'm hot and half asleep and I bothered to reply. :(

Surely we should be pressuring or encouraging countries to not use torture as forms of punishment.

If you want to talk trees go to a tree forum... lots of countries in Africa are very poor and probably don't have cars, so why would they need to cut down trees and build roads?

And if you want to pick at England for making mistakes, every country makes mistakes and I will admit that because it's true. No country has never made any errors, but in this modern day and age we should try to rectify these mistakes and try and make less... which includes stopping medieval methods of death.


ANNNNNNND one other thing. You mentioned England going around and invading countries, stealing gold, etc. that was hundreds of years ago. Hundreds of years ago countries (like Iran - but whatever it was 200 years ago) were still using torture as a method of execution, like the stoning. The difference here is that England has stopped gallivanting around the world stealing gold, but Iran continues to give tortuous death sentences.

Im off to bed, my head is killing. If none of that made sense then I'll come back some other time and rewrite it. THANK YOU & MUCH LOVE.

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Originally Posted by Hitman

What about it? I'm not talking about trees, you didn't even respond to what I wrote... I'm hot and half asleep and I bothered to reply. :(

Surely we should be pressuring or encouraging countries to not use torture as forms of punishment.

If you want to talk trees go to a tree forum... lots of countries in Africa are very poor and probably don't have cars, so why would they need to cut down trees and build roads?

And if you want to pick at England for making mistakes, every country makes mistakes and I will admit that because it's true. No country has never made any errors, but in this modern day and age we should try to rectify these mistakes and try and make less... which includes stopping medieval methods of death.


ANNNNNNND one other thing. You mentioned England going around and invading countries, stealing gold, etc. that was hundreds of years ago. Hundreds of years ago countries (like Iran - but whatever it was 200 years ago) were still using torture as a method of execution, like the stoning. The difference here is that England has stopped gallivanting around the world stealing gold, but Iran continues to give tortuous death sentences.

Im off to bed, my head is killing. If none of that made sense then I'll come back some other time and rewrite it. THANK YOU & MUCH LOVE.

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Thats the kind of attitude which I dislike "whats the point in making roads if they don't have cars". They want to but them down to make buildings and roads - modernise it - give business opportunities. I am against torture and I have said it, but things they stop countries in Africa doing in the name of Global Warming is ridiculous. England had no cars but they built roads so they can get to more places. They can use animals, they can walk, if they wanna make it, we shouldn't stop them - but we do.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Thats the kind of attitude which I dislike "whats the point in making roads if they don't have cars". They want to but them down to make buildings and roads - modernise it - give business opportunities. I am against torture and I have said it, but things they stop countries in Africa doing in the name of Global Warming is ridiculous. England had no cars but they built roads so they can get to more places. They can use animals, they can walk, if they wanna make it, we shouldn't stop them - but we do.

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I thought you believed in global warming?

You can't have it two ways now, either its a big threat that needs action taken or its not.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I thought you believed in global warming?

You can't have it two ways now, either its a big threat that needs action taken or its not.

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Global Warming is a totally different topic. I am saying the UK cannot cut all its forests so it can develop then stop other countries from doing the same.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Global Warming is a totally different topic. I am saying the UK cannot cut all its forests so it can develop then stop other countries from doing the same.

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You're on a different topic anyway... this WAS about Iran stoning a women to death, not it's about England's greed and telling people to not chop down trees. If they wanted to I'm sure they could, but that's the point if they can do NOTHING with them?

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Originally Posted by Hitman

You're on a different topic anyway... this WAS about Iran stoning a women to death, not it's about England's greed and telling people to not chop down trees. If they wanted to I'm sure they could, but that's the point if they can do NOTHING with them?

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You don't seem to understand. First there were hardly any cars here - so why build roads? Roads allow transport - not just via roads. And I am saying people complain about others coming here and changing stuff but England does it to every other country.

I think any country has a right to voice their opinions. Iranian representatives voice their opinion about the UK and the States. To say 'they are poking their noses in' is a pretty weak argument. This seems crazy to me. The woman and the man she was having an affair with got sentenced for 10 years for murdering the husband but she gets a further sentence of 'stoning to death' because of her admitted adutery. In any civilised society, surely adultery which is not even against the law in 90% of countries cannot be compared in any way shape or form to be a worse offence than murder.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

I think any country has a right to voice their opinions. Iranian representatives voice their opinion about the UK and the States. To say 'they are poking their noses in' is a pretty weak argument. This seems crazy to me. The woman and the man she was having an affair with got sentenced for 10 years for murdering the husband but she gets a further sentence of 'stoning to death' because of her admitted adutery. In any civilised society, surely adultery which is not even against the law in 90% of countries cannot be compared in any way shape or form to be a worse offence than murder.

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Its due to the religion I believe, however I might be completely wrong.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

You don't seem to understand. First there were hardly any cars here - so why build roads? Roads allow transport - not just via roads. And I am saying people complain about others coming here and changing stuff but England does it to every other country.

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I don't even know what you're on about now dude... and Raoul Moat is on TV, it's far more interesting... explain a bit better and maybe I will understand (I must be thick ;))

England does it to every other country... haha... show me some big things we've changed in other countries RECENTLY, not decades ago.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

What about sticking their nose in the African Forest bit?

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If im correct

thats not us forcing it on them, its charities and the European union?

The EU asked people to sign a treaty etc, not the Uk.

I've not seen in the news anything about the Uk government having any say in that, we may help protect the boundaries of the forests from illegal loggers etc with charities but i im sure its not our government in itself.

And china do have terrible human rights, everyone knows that, but there country is over populated and im not shocked that they hit down that bit harder on law breakers. Yes maybe some of there laws & Sentences are a tad harsh but they have to keep their population under control.