Student vandals turn second university fees protest violent

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24-11-2010, 08:57 PM
Conservative,

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Originally Posted by Neversoft

Oh sorry, I didn't know you were Clegg's right hand man and knew exactly what he would have done in every given circumstance. Your assumptions are absurd, stop making them. The simple fact is that Clegg, knowing full well a coalition could be the result of the election, made a promise he thought to be realistic and later went back on his word, causing people (quite rightly) to be angry. If you can't wrap your head around that then God help you. Oh and I don't know how filthy rich you are, but for most students a rise to £6,000 is not small.

I'm in no way rich, and yes I'm making assumptions, but I am using common sense? Surely everyone with a bit of common sense can understand it's not practical and ok, maybe he did make it knowing there would be a coalition, but even so people causing chaos will not help - they'll just lose public sympathy.

And as I said £6k or £10-20k? I know what I'd rather pay - think yourself lucky you're not in America or somewhere else. Our tuition fees are some of the lowest in the world, and will remain so even with this increase. People should really stop fussing and understand that.
24-11-2010, 09:03 PM
Rapidshare

Idiots, congrats too all students who decided to smash up things. I now have to pay my taxes for this ****.
24-11-2010, 09:09 PM
Neversoft

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Originally Posted by R0BB13G

I'm in no way rich, and yes I'm making assumptions, but I am using common sense? Surely everyone with a bit of common sense can understand it's not practical and ok, maybe he did make it knowing there would be a coalition, but even so people causing chaos will not help - they'll just lose public sympathy.

And as I said £6k or £10-20k? I know what I'd rather pay - think yourself lucky you're not in America or somewhere else. Our tuition fees are some of the lowest in the world, and will remain so even with this increase. People should really stop fussing and understand that.

It is completely debatable whether it is practical or not, you are being incredibly ignorant. I don't know anything about the system in America, but I am sure circumstances and such are entirely different over there. Even if our fees are low compared to a lot of other countries, they are going to triple to what they used to be and there was a time tuition fees didn't exist. If this isn't a matter fussing over then quite franky, what is?
24-11-2010, 09:19 PM
Conservative,

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Originally Posted by Neversoft

It is completely debatable whether it is practical or not, you are being incredibly ignorant. I don't know anything about the system in America, but I am sure circumstances and such are entirely different over there. Even if our fees are low compared to a lot of other countries, they are going to triple to what they used to be and there was a time tuition fees didn't exist. If this isn't a matter fussing over then quite franky, what is?

If this isn't a matter fussing over then quite franky, what is? Well...

Scrapping the NHS. Wasteful spending and world war 3. Any of those I would make a fuss about. A small rise in tuition fees are nothing to smash police cars up about.
24-11-2010, 09:21 PM
-paul.

I went to one today where i live. There was no violence - just people wanting a future.
24-11-2010, 09:22 PM
Rapidshare

We talking about the one in london tbh.
24-11-2010, 10:20 PM
Dean

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Originally Posted by R0BB13G

If this isn't a matter fussing over then quite franky, what is? Well...

Scrapping the NHS. Wasteful spending and world war 3. Any of those I would make a fuss about. A small rise in tuition fees are nothing to smash police cars up about.

It's not just about tuition fees though, it's about the fact that the government are going to cut spending in education and scrap EMA. Personally, I rely on EMA to pay for my train fare each month but if that goes, I'm not sure what will happen. Also, I don't believe "small" is the word for the rise in tuition fees!
24-11-2010, 10:23 PM
Conservative,

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Originally Posted by Dean

It's not just about tuition fees though, it's about the fact that the government are going to cut spending in education and scrap EMA. Personally, I rely on EMA to pay for my train fare each month but if that goes, I'm not sure what will happen. Also, I don't believe "small" is the word for the rise in tuition fees!

I haven't heard about this EMA but as I've said again and again it is small compared to nearly every other country in the world. If people looked into the real world and took a look theyd realise £6k is not that much to pay for tuition in relativity to the prices world wide.
24-11-2010, 10:26 PM
Neversoft

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Originally Posted by R0BB13G

I haven't heard about this EMA but as I've said again and again it is small compared to nearly every other country in the world. If people looked into the real world and took a look theyd realise £6k is not that much to pay for tuition in relativity to the prices world wide.

You don't get it. Yes, it isn't much compared to what some other countries pay but it is a lot to us.
24-11-2010, 10:32 PM
Dean

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Originally Posted by R0BB13G

I haven't heard about this EMA but as I've said again and again it is small compared to nearly every other country in the world. If people looked into the real world and took a look theyd realise £6k is not that much to pay for tuition in relativity to the prices world wide.

The way I look at it, if I went to uni now, I'd pay around 3k for a year. The course I'd do would typically be 3 years, so 9k for my time at uni, then you have to think about accommodation fees.

If I went to uni in 2 years time, I'd pay around 6-9k for a year. Again, 3 years of uni, so 18k-27k.

You see the huge difference? I'd much much rather be 9k in debt rather than 18k or even 27k!

EMA is being scrapped, it's confirmed by the government.

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EMA to close to new applicants
EMA will close to new applicants in England from January 2011. Learner support funds will be available through schools, colleges and training providers to help students who most need it to continue in learning. If you currently get EMA you will continue to receive it for the rest of this academic year, but you will not receive it next academic year

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Educatio.../EMA/index.htm

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