Tuition fee rises will not affect Welsh Students!

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30-11-2010, 07:19 PM
Neversoft

brb becoming a welsh national

But seriously, what the hell? LIFE ISN'T FAIR! Regretting so much that I didn't go to uni before all of this nonsense.
30-11-2010, 07:21 PM
Conservative,

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Originally Posted by Shar

Okay so you have realisation yet you're saying we're complaining? I won't tell you my living conditions as that is extremely private, but what I can tell you is I don't even live in a 3 bedroom house let alone 5. I have the right to be mad and complain about having to pay a huge amount of money in order to have an education which will get me a decent living so I can get out of this crap situation, by no means does that mean I am complaining.
You aren't just slightly well off, but more than well off than me and a lot of others. You can't say we have no ambition just because we're making a stand against the rise in fees. I think you need to see how lucky you are and need to stop telling others to stop complaining when they're the ones who are going to be hugely affected by this rise in tuition fees.

If your a poorer student then you'll get help with paying for it. Alternatively take a apprenticeship? The whole "OMG I NEED TO GO TO UNI OR I'LL FAIL IN LIFE" irks me. You don't have to - I simply want to due to the nature of career I wish to go on to.

I may be in a more privileged position than some, but if that's the case then I should be the one moaning/complaining or as you say "exercising our opinion". The hardest hit will be middle class citizens such as myself. The working class and poorer students will get huge pay packages to help with the money and the rich can just pay it off. But my family won't get any help because my father makes enough money. The only help I'm getting is from my deceased Grandfather who has set up a fund to help pay for University.

So you are, as you said, perfectly entitled to your opinion. But I'm entitled to thinking it's complaining.
30-11-2010, 07:26 PM
Mathew

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

I miss them days when the Government paid for us to go to university and companies paid for everything else in university life. I never experienced them but I'm sure they were nice n' cosy.

Of course, let's have the taxpayer pay for everyone and their cousin to get a degree. There's a lack of people wanting to go to University isn't there? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

America? People refusing to go to hospital until they're staring death in the face?

Sadly, this is all too true. My Mum knows someone in the states who stuggles with finances and their family only seeks medical attention if it's really bad. Thank goodness for the NHS, is all I can say.

I do, however, think Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland should just learn to run their own "countries" and stop picking off England. There was something big in the media a few months ago about Scotland still getting so much money from British parliament, but then still getting their own sum of money because they're kinda... "half-independent." Why not just fully break away? :(
30-11-2010, 07:27 PM
Chippiewill

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Originally Posted by Mathew

Of course, let's have the taxpayer pay for everyone and their cousin to get a degree. There's a lack of people wanting to go to University isn't there? :rolleyes:

There was..
30-11-2010, 07:29 PM
Shar

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Originally Posted by R0BB13G

If your a poorer student then you'll get help with paying for it. Alternatively take a apprenticeship? The whole "OMG I NEED TO GO TO UNI OR I'LL FAIL IN LIFE" irks me. You don't have to - I simply want to due to the nature of career I wish to go on to.

I may be in a more privileged position than some, but if that's the case then I should be the one moaning/complaining or as you say "exercising our opinion". The hardest hit will be middle class citizens such as myself. The working class and poorer students will get huge pay packages to help with the money and the rich can just pay it off. But my family won't get any help because my father makes enough money. The only help I'm getting is from my deceased Grandfather who has set up a fund to help pay for University.

So you are, as you said, perfectly entitled to your opinion. But I'm entitled to thinking it's complaining.

I'm kind of offended by the fact that you called me a "poorer" student, I'd prefer the term underprivileged. And no we don't get a lot of support and help with money, I know this for a fact because my sister is at uni at the moment.

I've always had the ambition to go to university and I will be going one day, and I am not at all complaining, I'm just putting my opinion across.
30-11-2010, 07:30 PM
Hecktix

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Originally Posted by R0BB13G

If your a poorer student then you'll get help with paying for it. Alternatively take a apprenticeship? The whole "OMG I NEED TO GO TO UNI OR I'LL FAIL IN LIFE" irks me. You don't have to - I simply want to due to the nature of career I wish to go on to.

Everybody has the right to go to University, if you have an ambition to work in a certain industry a lot of the time that requires you to have a degree. The wealth of your family should not decide who gets degrees it should be based upon intelligence.
30-11-2010, 07:31 PM
Conservative,

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Originally Posted by Shar

I'm kind of offended by the fact that you called me a "poorer" student, I'd prefer the term underprivileged. And no we don't get a lot of support and help with money, I know this for a fact because my sister is at uni at the moment.

Key word being if I never said you were. And the Uni's putting their prices up have to offer more support to more people.
30-11-2010, 07:34 PM
Chippiewill

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Originally Posted by R0BB13G

Key word being if I never said you were. And the Uni's putting their prices up have to offer more support to more people.

I don't think the word 'if' makes a difference in this situation, you still used the word poor and not underprivileged.

Also, university admittance should be based on A-level results entirely, not ability to pay for it.
30-11-2010, 07:34 PM
Conservative,

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

Everybody has the right to go to University, if you have an ambition to work in a certain industry a lot of the time that requires you to have a degree. The wealth of your family should not decide who gets degrees it should be based upon intelligence.

But the problem is everyone thinks they need it. We need to empty the Universities a bit, not fill them up more.

I'd be all against the cuts if:

They got rid of pointless degrees such as "studies of aliens in american culture" or "golf course management".
The fees were as high as other world-leading countries.
more was done for those who had better grades; ie to those who got A*A*A* at A level got grants rather than poorer students who got CCC.

But those aren't happening so I'm for it.

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I don't think the word 'if' makes a difference in this situation.

She is saying that I said she was poorer. I didn't I said "if you" meaning anyone.
30-11-2010, 07:36 PM
Rapidshare

Who gives a **** if he said poorer, it true.

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