BNP 'turning into Ukip'

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Originally Posted by Swastika

Yes, in a work place - whereas Burqas are not.


My post was a retaliation to somebody else's posts, they said it was a free country - which it's not.
Burqas aren't threatening to me but i don't think people should be getting fired from work for refusing to serve people wearing them.
There are genuine reasons why somebody would wear a balaclava, as there are genuine reasons why somebody would wear a Burqa, you can't just say muslims have right to wear Burqas but i don't have a right to wear my balaclava.

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I think you will find that in some public buildings motorbike helmets, hoodys (with hoods up) and
balaclavas are banned which is for quite valid reasons as much more criminal activity happens with people wearing this mode of dress. They would also have every right to ask someone wearing a burqua to lift their veil for justified security reasons

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Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo

Religion is a valid reason in today's society (hopefully not in the future, but thats another topic :p) to wear a certain item where others would not be able to. What valid reasons are there that someone would NEED to wear a balaclava to work?

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

I think you will find that in some public buildings motorbike helmets, hoodys (with hoods up) and
balaclavas are banned which is for quite valid reasons as much more criminal activity happens with people wearing this mode of dress. They would also have every right to ask someone wearing a burqua to lift their veil for justified security reasons

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You are both beating around the bush.
Do you think its justifiable or fair that i can't wear my balaclava/hooded sweatshirt or any other face covering garment while a muslim can wear her Burqa?
Yes or no?

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Originally Posted by Swastika

You are both beating around the bush.
Do you think its justifiable or fair that i can't wear my balaclava/hooded sweatshirt or any other face covering garment while a muslim can wear her Burqa?
Yes or no?

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Yes. You dont need to wear it, they do.

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Originally Posted by Swastika

You are both beating around the bush.
Do you think its justifiable or fair that i can't wear my balaclava/hooded sweatshirt or any other face covering garment while a muslim can wear her Burqa?
Yes or no?

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Nothing is black and white - you are not banned from wearing your balaclava except for work. Almost all companies have dress codes. You do not wear it for religious reasons and this is no different to Sikhs wearing turbans for their religion.

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Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo

Yes. You dont need to wear it, they do.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

Nothing is black and white - you are not banned from wearing your balaclava except for work. Almost all companies have dress codes. You do not wear it for religious reasons and this is no different to Sikhs wearing turbans for their religion.

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Okay, here is where i prove you both wrong.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-tribunal.html

Answer me that?

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Originally Posted by Swastika

Okay, here is where i prove you both wrong.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-tribunal.html

Answer me that?

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Where are you proving us wrong? That article is what im saying, in that they should be allowed to wear religious items, no where did i say that christians shouldn't be allowed. Whoever made that decision saying that she shouldnt be allowed were wrong, not us.

It had nothing to do with her faith - it was a health and safety issue. People working in hospitals are subject to this. No nurse can wear exposed jewellry whatever faith they are.

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Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo

Where are you proving us wrong? That article is what im saying, in that they should be allowed to wear religious items, no where did i say that christians shouldn't be allowed. Whoever made that decision saying that she shouldnt be allowed were wrong, not us.

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Why should it be religious items only?
The fact is the Burqa still covers up the face, exactly the same way a balaclava does.
Religion doesn't have much to do with the fact that you can't see somebodies face, i don't see how thats fair.
And im proving you wrong because your quite clearly defending the muslim faith as we carry on getting treat like second class citizens being told what to wear, when other religious and so called minorities are not.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

It had nothing to do with her faith - it was a health and safety issue. People working in hospitals are subject to this. No nurse can wear exposed jewellry whatever faith they are.

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Once again, your beating around the bush.
The article clearly stated she wore the necklace for many years without being troubled, the workplace was being discriminative.

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Originally Posted by Swastika

Why should it be religious items only?
The fact is the Burqa still covers up the face, exactly the same way a balaclava does.
Religion doesn't have much to do with the fact that you can't see somebodies face, i don't see how thats fair.
And im proving you wrong because your quite clearly defending the muslim faith as we carry on getting treat like second class citizens being told what to wear, when other religious and so called minorities are not.

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Once again, your beating around the bush.
The article clearly stated she wore the necklace for many years without being troubled, the workplace was being discriminative.

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No it is a regulation in every hospital in the land. Also please don't say 'we' when saying that people are treated like second class citizens because it it your post and your opinion which you are entitled to but you are not entitled to conclude what other people think either. :P

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Originally Posted by Swastika

Why should it be religious items only?
The fact is the Burqa still covers up the face, exactly the same way a balaclava does.
Religion doesn't have much to do with the fact that you can't see somebodies face, i don't see how thats fair.
And im proving you wrong because your quite clearly defending the muslim faith as we carry on getting treat like second class citizens being told what to wear, when other religious and so called minorities are not.

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Because people have to respect people's religious faith thats why, its a given. Balaclavas aren't needed.
The reason for wearing a burqa does have something to do with covering up one's face, thats the point of it.
Again, you're very wrong. I have no reason to defend the muslim faith, im neither muslim nor am i religious in the slightest (infact i think we'd be better if religion was gone altogether). I'm merely defending religion as a whole because even though i dont like religion, i still respect it. All of them.