Teenage hangs herself due to abuse on ASK.FM

totally forgot 14 year old kids have the same emotional capacity as the rest of us and can handle all of this stuff in lives and won't have it affect them at all. She was 14 so forgive her for going onto that site to try and get some help (most of my friends actually have recommended ask.fm and they're around 17 - you don't realise how bad it is for bullying till you try it out and even then you've already encountered some of it). PLEASE FORGIVE AS I FORGOT 14 YEAR OLDS AUTOMATICALLY KNOW ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS AND GET HELP I AM SORRY.

Loljk I rarely had any advice given in school citizenship/PSHE lessons about stuff like this - suicide / emotional issues / self harm etc. and it's failing students so badly because they end up not knowing what to do.

Jfc waiting for the day when someone on here who is attacking this girl, loses a member of their own family for similar reasons. Then let's see how ******* quick you are to point the finger on themselves.

RIP to her and I feel so sorry for her family. I hope the people who posted on her ask.fm realize what they've done and feel bloody terrible about it. Idiots.

I don't mean any disrespect but man up, jeez.

You're getting abuse? Leave.

If you get bad customer service time and time again from a certain shop, do you go back? Do you ****.

Eurgh, teenagers these days. Such a waste of life.

*incoming barrage of red rep for having an opinion different to the majority*

can always count on the same three people to come into suicide and mental health threads time and time again claiming those with suicidal thoughts are cowards, weak, idiots or any other variation. all you guys care about is getting your ignorant comments out there, not the fact that people are feeling **** enough to kill themselves. dunno why u all feel the need to do so when it's going to make people feel worse, not any better? what are u hoping to achieve with such comments? all you're doing is showing you think suicidal people are stupid,not hoping the problem, which is with the bullies and not the victim, ceases.

problem with ask.fm is absolutely anyone can post on it, ive had horrible comments but i know they're from people in different countries who don't even know me. maybe this was the case for her but she thought it was people from school who really hated her. I'd say its especially hard for a 14 year old as at that point you want to fit in, you want to be liked and you don't understand until you're older (and in this case, when it's too late) that you don't have to be popular and liked. wasn't until i was 19 that i realised no-one elses opinion should matter to me but whilst you're at school, it does. so whilst i agree that you should ignore abuse, you don't do that at 14 year old and it really crushes your self-esteem. whilst you may not commit suicide at that point, it can haunt you for the rest of your days until you do something about it.

anywY that's all ill say so u can quote me all u like i don't care. think one reason i wouldn't kill myself is because once you're gone, there are still horrible trolls saying you deserve it and you're a coward + i think that's just unnecessary extra damage towards the family. (Inb4 killing yourself is unnecessary damage, i said EXTRA)

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Originally Posted by Intersocial

Loljk I rarely had any advice given in school citizenship/PSHE lessons about stuff like this - suicide / emotional issues / self harm etc. and it's failing students so badly because they end up not knowing what to do.

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Since when did we decide that state-run schools are now there to provide social services rather than to educate?

The last time I checked, schools are there to educate about maths, geography, the sciences, history and so on rather than allowing dodgy doctors into the school to prescribe hormonal children a series of quack science pills etc.

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Originally Posted by buttons

can always count on the same three people to come into suicide and mental health threads time and time again claiming those with suicidal thoughts are cowards, weak, idiots or any other variation.

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I don't recall reading anybody saying any of that, only you have suggested such.

All I have read in this thread is the simple logic coming from many of us that, whilst she was a vunerable child, ultimately there isn't much you can do for somebody who seems determined to have nasty comments throw at her - probably in a desperate cry out for attention - by going on the internet. The only people who can and who should stop such a thing are either the girl herself, and if she's not in the right frame of mind, then the father and mother.... but even then there is only so much you can do.

Somebody who seemingly wants attention (which will involve insults/nasty comments).. what much can you do to help them? especially when it's on the internet which means that it's likely the family had no knowledge of any of this.

It doesn't mean we're being heartless or nasty towards the girl, just simply taking a step back from the emotional argument and questioning why the blame should be put at the foot of a website/users of a website when the use of ask.fm is not a need or a 'human right' for anybody - therefore the question ought to be asked as to why she continued to use it and post very personal information when she was clearly trumatised by it. Now I think that's a rational question to be asked.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Since when did we decide that state-run schools are now there to provide social services rather than to educate?

The last time I checked, schools are there to educate about maths, geography, the sciences, history and so on rather than allowing dodgy doctors into the school to prescribe hormonal children a series of quack science pills etc.

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You say some ridiculous things but this has to be one of the worst you've come up with in a long time. You've really outdone yourself lmao! Schools have a duty of care and responsibility to their students. If a student is suffering at home then the school has every right to get social services involved and I'm pretty sure it's more or less protocol that they have to? Dodgy doctors? Lol what on earth... I'm not even going to comment on that, I'm pretty sure a medical professional with 7 years training and years of clinical experience behind them knows what they're talking about.

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Originally Posted by buttons

can always count on the same three people to come into suicide and mental health threads time and time again claiming those with suicidal thoughts are cowards, weak, idiots or any other variation. all you guys care about is getting your ignorant comments out there, not the fact that people are feeling **** enough to kill themselves. dunno why u all feel the need to do so when it's going to make people feel worse, not any better? what are u hoping to achieve with such comments? all you're doing is showing you think suicidal people are stupid,not hoping the problem, which is with the bullies and not the victim, ceases.

problem with ask.fm is absolutely anyone can post on it, ive had horrible comments but i know they're from people in different countries who don't even know me. maybe this was the case for her but she thought it was people from school who really hated her. I'd say its especially hard for a 14 year old as at that point you want to fit in, you want to be liked and you don't understand until you're older (and in this case, when it's too late) that you don't have to be popular and liked. wasn't until i was 19 that i realised no-one elses opinion should matter to me but whilst you're at school, it does. so whilst i agree that you should ignore abuse, you don't do that at 14 year old and it really crushes your self-esteem. whilst you may not commit suicide at that point, it can haunt you for the rest of your days until you do something about it.

anywY that's all ill say so u can quote me all u like i don't care. think one reason i wouldn't kill myself is because once you're gone, there are still horrible trolls saying you deserve it and you're a coward + i think that's just unnecessary extra damage towards the family. (Inb4 killing yourself is unnecessary damage, i said EXTRA)

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can always count on the moral highgrounders coming in and saying what everybody else has said a thousand times to get another ring on their halo. same thing jen, doesn't mean we're ignorant.

i dont think she even killed herself cos of the ask fm abuse. every1 who uses ask fm has those type of comments i think its just a coincidence that a girl that killed herself had kill urself comments on her profile.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Since when did we decide that state-run schools are now there to provide social services rather than to educate?

The last time I checked, schools are there to educate about maths, geography, the sciences, history and so on rather than allowing dodgy doctors into the school to prescribe hormonal children a series of quack science pills etc.



I don't recall reading anybody saying any of that, only you have suggested such.

All I have read in this thread is the simple logic coming from many of us that, whilst she was a vunerable child, ultimately there isn't much you can do for somebody who seems determined to have nasty comments throw at her - probably in a desperate cry out for attention - by going on the internet. The only people who can and who should stop such a thing are either the girl herself, and if she's not in the right frame of mind, then the father and mother.... but even then there is only so much you can do.

Somebody who seemingly wants attention (which will involve insults/nasty comments).. what much can you do to help them? especially when it's on the internet which means that it's likely the family had no knowledge of any of this.

It doesn't mean we're being heartless or nasty towards the girl, just simply taking a step back from the emotional argument and questioning why the blame should be put at the foot of a website/users of a website when the use of ask.fm is not a need or a 'human right' for anybody - therefore the question ought to be asked as to why she continued to use it and post very personal information when she was clearly trumatised by it. Now I think that's a rational question to be asked.

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i agree w/ jake your comments about schools only for education is ridiculous. education isnt just about skills, you can educate a child on life. schools are supposed to be a secondary education, they take you for about 7 hours a day so they have responsibility for looking after your children and that includes any bullying they may suffer. at least if schools are teaching morals then these suicides would happen less.

youre asking the wrong questions. the questions should be; why are kids throwing abuse to each other and telling them to kill themselves? why is nothing being done to stop this? i see people say kill yourself all over twitter & no-one bats an eyelid. yes, someone saying that to me wouldn't make me actually do it but im honestly so ******* shocked that someone could say that to another person. all we do is blame the victim for not ignoring it when it shouldn't be done in the first place. instead of blaming the victims parents, why not blame the parents of the vile children spouting such hate? what u can do to help is get police involved, try find out the people doing it WHILST keeping the child off the site, not just taking the child off. even if one child getting abuse stops going onto the site, then the bullies can simply jump to the next, so shouldn't they be the ones dealt with rather than the victims? :S

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Originally Posted by Catchy

You say some ridiculous things but this has to be one of the worst you've come up with in a long time. You've really outdone yourself lmao! Schools have a duty of care and responsibility to their students. If a student is suffering at home then the school has every right to get social services involved and I'm pretty sure it's more or less protocol that they have to? Dodgy doctors? Lol what on earth... I'm not even going to comment on that, I'm pretty sure a medical professional with 7 years training and years of clinical experience behind them knows what they're talking about.

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agreed! All schools should provide good pastoral care for their students. Some people on this forum :rolleyes: