Action Plan

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

When were the errors you saw, time frame etc? There's currently only me who can edit reports on site, apart from Charlie and GM - I've been going through them as soon as I can each time and I have missed some (when I thought I was getting help with editing), but most I have gone back on to ensure the quality is upped. I would love another Head News Reporter, but it's more who to promote currently and is it plausible with how many is currently in the department.

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One of the main goals when I was originally appointed assistant in February 2012 was commenting on News Articles, we had ideas of guest commenting (something promised that never got done), awards (such as the VIP) and things like that. I brought it in (and it was in talks for months before going live) to improve commenting on the site and it did work for an amount of time. However, it hasn't been advertised that much and having only 3 winners showed it, but I'm sure more can be done as I said there were ideas floating when I was in my first part of assistant.

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So why is it still around if it's not working any more?

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Originally Posted by Kardan

So why is it still around if it's not working any more?

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It's only around in the fact I felt that over the months when it wasn't done there were people who fit the criteria to win it. Therefore, I rewarded them for previous months, without that people had forgotten it anyway and Ryan was going to bring it back before I was given the management job again. It probably won't return again, but at least we tried it to see how it went.

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

There are more important things to deal with in News instead of integration to the forum - I have asked about it though, but I need to be more in depth when I explain before anything can be carried out. The only burden currently is Sulake. However, above that I do have more important things to do regardless of how many is in my department. I'm sure I've said already that the reports we did need to increase, in which they are doing, but without those reports we cannot integrate to the forum.

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What things do you have that are more important than having more than 3 people read the articles you put out? How on earth can Sulake be in the way of how you write reports? And why do you need more reports in order to make changes? It's an extremely simple change that could be implemented in just a few minutes to the effect of having everyone who comes on the forum see the news articles and potentially join in with discussion about them, and it would actually be far easier to do while the department is smaller than it has been as there would be only a few people who need to adapt the way they work

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

One of the main goals when I was originally appointed assistant in February 2012 was commenting on News Articles, we had ideas of guest commenting (something promised that never got done), awards (such as the VIP) and things like that. I brought it in (and it was in talks for months before going live) to improve commenting on the site and it did work for an amount of time. However, it hasn't been advertised that much and having only 3 winners showed it, but I'm sure more can be done as I said there were ideas floating when I was in my first part of assistant.

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But why are you focusing on that when it's been shown time and time again to be unused and unwanted? Yes more can be done, but not the way you're looking at it - the way to get more comments is by having the article discussion on the forum (where people come to comment on things) rather than a separate little box that no-one looks at and forces any potential discussion to be split between forum and site at a time when activity on both needs addressing. You're pressing for something that is actually detrimental to the department if that's your master plan

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

What things do you have that are more important than having more than 3 people read the articles you put out? How on earth can Sulake be in the way of how you write reports? And why do you need more reports in order to make changes? It's an extremely simple change that could be implemented in just a few minutes to the effect of having everyone who comes on the forum see the news articles and potentially join in with discussion about them, and it would actually be far easier to do while the department is smaller than it has been as there would be only a few people who need to adapt the way they work



But why are you focusing on that when it's been shown time and time again to be unused and unwanted? Yes more can be done, but not the way you're looking at it - the way to get more comments is by having the article discussion on the forum (where people come to comment on things) rather than a separate little box that no-one looks at and forces any potential discussion to be split between forum and site at a time when activity on both needs addressing. You're pressing for something that is actually detrimental to the department if that's your master plan

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One of my ideas was more to post full articles on the forum and not use the site as much, but due to Sulake wanting content on the site we can't. I don't know if you've ever seen when I posted full reports on the forum and got a discussion that way? That's what I liked doing, but back then I wasn't the manager and got told to not post the whole thing and make people go to the site. I'd do it now, but I don't see the need of having to post it on both the site and the forum (unless there isn't a thread already on the subject). I'd happily post it all on the forum, as long as I get moderator perms to edit what I need to. What we could do, and I know it's been spoken about before is to not remove the site work, but make it more forum based (I've been saying I want to throughout and I have been steering away from ROTM etc.)

Anyway, what I think would be good to test at least, and I know I was against it at first, but it would help I think. Have a forum for news reports, reporters post in there and then I can edit it or a Head News Reporter can if any mistakes are made, this helps discussion at least. However, there's the problem on whether that would happen if there's already a thread about it.

Also, after editing it and everything we could then post about it on the site, or just link to the news report on the forum (this is what I actually wanted to try do on my return, but haven't got to it yet with what Sulake want).

If not, I'm not sure if there's a way we could post a news report on site and it'll post it on the forum? Again this would need editing twice which could be a problem, but I like the idea of posting it on HxF first before the site.

I hope you understood what I'm getting at with that, I know I repeated myself a fair bit.

If you've written a report is it really that much more work to paste it in two text boxes rather than one :P if Sulake want content on the site and for discussion it needs to be on the forum then it makes sense to have it on both, which is what was suggested anyway - it's just that the "read more & comment" button needs to be removed so that the discussions are all in one place. No-one is going to see a thread here and think "oh I'll go look that up on the site" so there's no point trying to make the forum users shift away, but since site comments require a sign-up anyway it logically follows that someone willing to do that to comment on an article would sign up on the forum just as happily, and then be part of the community properly

Not a fan of having a separate area for news reports as news often gets posted long before an edited report goes up on the site and so with that you would either get duplicate threads which no-one wants or the news forum would look ineffective and bare. Far better to just post them in the forum that they fit with if a thread isn't already up about whatever issue's come to light, then it's more community based (dare we even hope that it becomes community led?) and less divisive - as many departments seem to be to their own undoing

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

If you've written a report is it really that much more work to paste it in two text boxes rather than one :P if Sulake want content on the site and for discussion it needs to be on the forum then it makes sense to have it on both, which is what was suggested anyway - it's just that the "read more & comment" button needs to be removed so that the discussions are all in one place. No-one is going to see a thread here and think "oh I'll go look that up on the site" so there's no point trying to make the forum users shift away, but since site comments require a sign-up anyway it logically follows that someone willing to do that to comment on an article would sign up on the forum just as happily, and then be part of the community properly

Not a fan of having a separate area for news reports as news often gets posted long before an edited report goes up on the site and so with that you would either get duplicate threads which no-one wants or the news forum would look ineffective and bare. Far better to just post them in the forum that they fit with if a thread isn't already up about whatever issue's come to light, then it's more community based (dare we even hope that it becomes community led?) and less divisive - as many departments seem to be to their own undoing

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Unfortunately, it is more than just pasting in 2 boxes due to the annoying code on Habbox.com, if we go paste in the Habbox.com editor it will most probably break the font we set for a default news report or if we post on the forum we then have to add images, sometimes line breaks, alignment etc. I don't mind doing it, I was just clarifying that it's more than just pasting :(.

Also, yeah I see what you mean. I remember getting staff and myself to post our reports sometimes if they weren't posted, but I am a moderator of the Habbo forums on here anyway, so I could easily post it in the OP if @Chris; would allow it? That would cut out a bit I guess, or I could just post it (or a news reporter) at the end of the thread to create more discussion.

Although, this week I've noticed more and more reports being done before the forum thread, which is great compared to how late we were doing them when I first returned!

I've got VIP until 2016 I'm not commenting to get free VIP! I comment to let the writers know that someone's read it - I know news gets a decent amount of hits but it's quite disheartening when no one comments, which is why I try to, since I've not been manager. Nothing else!


And also when I was commenting Tom & Ryan wasn't running news reader of the month and I had no idea Sam would retroactively reward me


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So it's just a friend giving out freebies to a friend like what Martin was doing to get fired then

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

So it's just a friend giving out freebies to a friend like what Martin was doing to get fired then

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No not really? If it was a friend giving out freebies I would have just gave her 15c for no reason. The previous managers didn't do it and I had noticed month after month the comments we were getting and nothing was done about it (even when I PMed the manager at the time saying Mr-Trainor should win this month and Laura should win for this month etc.)

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

I've got VIP until 2016 I'm not commenting to get free VIP! I comment to let the writers know that someone's read it - I know news gets a decent amount of hits but it's quite disheartening when no one comments, which is why I try to, since I've not been manager. Nothing else!


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So your 1 post every few months makes everything better for the news team, does it? :P

And seriously there is absolutely no point to the news comment system. I've looked at the past 40 news things, and there's only one person that has posted a comment anything to do with the topic at hand. And that's Laura going 'Oh, that's ugly'.

I mean, I'm not even sure that deserves a reward.