Did i say it is? No, i simply stated people are saying they know about the economy, if they even do know it's very little and they use previous decisions etc.
He has no experience? lol
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Did i say it is? No, i simply stated people are saying they know about the economy, if they even do know it's very little and they use previous decisions etc.
He has no experience? lol
As retroguitar said experience doesn't equate to becoming a good president, Abraham Lincoln had only a year or two as a senator before he became president and he has been deemed as one of the greatest presidents ever.
I didn't say they did, but you said Obama has the experience, when he doesn't :P
Well considering he studied political science going more in depth with foreign relations (no.. he can't see russia from his home town though :() He worked in the Illnois state senate for eight years, focusing on helping poorer families, then went on to the united states senate for another two years, that's ten years experience under his belt. He also called out what would happen in Iraq
Second half of a quote of his:
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"know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president."
LOL at you thinking you know how the election process works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Technologic
We do elect the president, WE are the popular vote.
Each state has a certain amount of votes in the Electoral College.
NC has 15. (13 representatives + 2 senators).
Say McCain gets 11M votes in NC and Obama gets 10M.. McCain wins North Carolina.. and gains 15 total votes in the Electoral College.
The electoral voters don't get to choose who they vote for, every single one vote for the same person.. whoever won that state.
Maybe you should read up on something next time before you make such an accusation pretending to know how it works :rolleyes:.
I can't believe I own a thread with 17+ pages!
Yeeehaw! Did you go shoot some darn cotton workers who invaded your proprteh? North CaaaaaarolinaQuote:
Originally Posted by Dentafrice
I could care less for both of the idiots.
Thankyou for the enthralling banter.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdowdy
Arnold Schwarzenegger recently said 'Obama is too interested in spending' whilst with the money he's spent on advertisments about himself he could be helping out with paying peoples debts etc etc.
McCain is the one who is more focused on helping people, obama is just good at throwing the money around!
..... I think you're getting confused with what a republican actually is, his spending was from donations by the people to help him in his campaign, as far as I know he couldn't use that money to help people with debt etc.
All americans vote for Obama
What an idiotic statement.
Not all americans vote for obama hence how about 44% vote for McCain.
I Prefer McCain Because Obama Is saying he's gonna change this and change that.
And half of that stuf wont even get through.
:/
The popular vote doesn't elect the president though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dentafrice
In 2000, Al Gore got more votes - but Bush was elected because he had something like 5 more votes in the electoral college.
i'd vote for Obama cus e is blk
I agree. The money he received he used in a great way, I even sent him around $650.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzie.
Obama spent all his money on a 30-minute TV ad because he was afraid of loosing.
No they don't. I'm an American, I voted for McCain last Wednesday.. so not all Americans voted for Obama ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Freeza101
I agree :) That gap is closing more rapidly though.. but you cannot trust those polls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sc0tteh
They call like 950 people.. and ask who they support.. then make a "nation-wide" poll about it.
The popular vote has a major part in the election process.. otherwise it would be stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
I think I know what I'm talking about, ;)
You can have wayyyyy more popular votes.. and still loose in the electoral college.. and vise-versa.
The popular vote decides who the state's electors vote for..
If McCain won NC he would have 15 electoral votes for him.. if Obama won CA (which he did).. he would have 53 something votes for him..
McCain could still win by winning more small states..
That's the way it works ;)
And you're just arguing with me.. when I said all of this in my previous post..
lol, you misunderstood him. that was a command, not a stereotype. he was telling americans to vote for obama. calm down a bit, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sc0tteh
i'm not sure if you heard, but there's this little economic crisis we're having. both mccain and obama supported the 700 BILLION dollar bailout for the banks. instead of giving 700 billion dollars to the people struggling to pay debts, it was sent to the corporate banks who caused the mess in the first place!Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue.Neon
obama is a capitalist. if he raised money and gave it to people, he'd be called a socialist (even more than he has now). so no matter what he does with the amount of money he raised, he'd be criticized in one way or another.
Well either way, I'm hoping Obama wins.. Although I'm a huge Obama fan I wouldn't be suicidal if Mccain got through (I'm Engish but I can see how this election is going to affect the whole world) but.. Palin.. dear god.. Palin.. what a ******* idiot she is.
Yeehaw.. a 12 year old girl got raped by her uncle? Nah, no abortion for you babe. :)
If a 12 year old gets raped by her uncle, I think it would be pretty wise for her to ******* tell someone.. not wait 9 months and say.. oh yeah.. I'm due to have a baby next week.. Uncle Billy-Bob raped me..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzie.
They can take care of these things the next morning.. or the next day.. and the baby is gone for good, but no.. they decide to wait.. and then abortion does become an option.. which is stupid, because it was their fault it came to that.
i'm gonna come out and say it.
I think McCain and Palin have a vile smear-based campaign of half truths and poor associations. Whilst Obama has a decent-sounding tax plan and a fairly tame campaign. McCain wants to show Obama as a socialist which is really really not true, this country (UK) and the majority of the EU are so much more socialist, we'd think he was more middle or middle-right than left at all.
I fear if McCain wins the election the USA will go to war with Iran and Iran isn't a sort of nation that will give up and die - it's rich. You don't want another war in the middle-east.
I don't particularly think Obama will be great, probably won't last more than one term but he'll stop the end of this expensive war and maybe our nation will no longer have to follow round the USA dishing out 'freedom.'
&Dentafrice the morning after pill is a method of early abortion.
So a twelve year old after being abused by her uncle.. would goto the doctors and get the morning after pill?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dentafrice
;D wut?
She can tell her parents.. that's what they are there for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzie.
I'm just saying.. there are other options then waiting and then saying.. what am I going to do? Then you're forced to decide between having the baby, or abortion.. not like in the early stages where you have more then those options.
Yes but I don't think you're understanding what happens when somebody is abusing somebody else, especially if the abused is alot younger.. the abuser basically emotionally blackmails them not to tell anybody, so there'd be a very high chance of the girl passing the morning after/12 day abortion thing.
Well I mean it can't stay hidden for very long.. they're going to have to tell someone sometime..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzie.
i think in the 'land of the free' you should have the 'freedom' to choose.
Okay.
Choose.
Choose then.. because if you can look at that.. and say that you want that.. =\
No they wont.. that's what I'm trying to say, what Palin is doing is utterly disgusting, forcing a young 12 year old girl to go through pregnancy, missing out on her schooling, all because of a hypothetical sadistic uncle who abused her?
Doesn't she also want women who were raped to pay for their own rape kits?
What does Obama want to do with US troops in Iraq out of curiosity?
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/Quote:
Originally Posted by Immenseman
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Barack Obama will responsibly end the war in Iraq:
Immediately upon taking office, Obama will give his Secretary of Defense and military commanders a new mission in Iraq: successfully ending the war. The removal of our troops will be responsible and phased.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/
Basically remove them responsibly and put more troops into Afghanistan is the general idea
ok girls
Redwhateveryournameis; the way he structured the sentence was "All americans vote for obama" If he was saying to all americans, to vote for obama it would be been constructed like this; "All americans, vote for obama"
Alex; presidents can't declare war, can they? it needs to go through congress from what im aware.
Alex; The war in iraq shouldnt stop, as thats basically saying "HEY WE CAN INVADE YOU, then we get a ***** presidents so we're out BYEEEE" That shows weakness, the war in iraq was for a reason, didn't obama even say that the war in iraq wasn't pointless?
Presidents cannot declare war.. they can send in troops for no more then 60 days..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sc0tteh
Then congress votes on whether or not to leave them there.. or bring them all home.
Ah kai.. :P
Yeah it's confusing.. unless he made an executive order/decision which bypasses congress.. but then that would be reviewed by the supreme court under judicial review..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sc0tteh
I think the idea was all Americas- ie, if you're a true patriotic american you will vote for Obama, but I'm not too sure on that.
Declaring war I'm not sure about.. the president is the command in chief so surely could declare if he so choosed too.
It's not showing weakness atall, we have removed a cruel dictator, that was one of the only good things about it really.. it was pointless to go in, there were no evidence for WMD's, although Saddam was a cruel, vindictive man the costs of going after him and fighting in that area, plus the lives of american and british soldiers. It's quite a price for a man who will eventually fade away like every other dictator has done in the past.
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Originally Posted by Dentafrice
I have never ever seen Scott concede or at least drop an argument and I've known him for a year or so, thank you dentafrice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sc0tteh
Also, thanks to the person who answered my question up there I forgot your name.
^_^. He is probably just thinking.. Scott is a pretty good thinker.. and is arguing humanly :P Not like the rest of these baboons. kidding..Quote:
Originally Posted by Immenseman
Like I said above:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzie.
Quote:
The president of the United States has no clear constitutional authority to declare war without congressional approval. However, the U.S. Supreme Court has determined that the president, as commander-in-chief of the military, does have the authority to recognize a "state of war" initiated against the United States and may in these circumstances unilaterally send U.S. troops into battle.
Wasn't technically an arguement, he's just telling me how the US declaring of war works, which i didn't know :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Immenseman
At the rep you gave me, no i wasn't wrong, as i asked the question "Alex; presidents can't declare war, can they? it needs to go through congress from what im aware."
:)