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Selling rep is still offering a service for money. I for one will still be donating to keep Habbox going even if we can't get VIP back, but obviously won't be getting anything other than the enjoyment of the forum for it :P
Maybe Sulake just got tired of having to trundle through hundreds of fansite applications and decided that forcing them closed through finance was a good way of making their jobs easier lol
They haven't made that much of a difference to Habbo, they've kept a few more people at Habbo and made them a few K but it's nonsense that we got them where they are today.Quote:
Originally Posted by dtmm
Sorry but I'm not willing to go down the charity root, I think it's far too complicated and if I wanted to donate to Charity I'd do it directly. I'd rather just give directly to Habbox as a donation and get nothing in return. It's inevitable the amount of people buying this charity service will be a lot less than ever bought VIP.
Perhaps you should consider getting rid of a service such as HabboxLive which would save you lots of bandwidth and Shoutcast hosting but tbh, most websites survive off advertising fine.
They will think that they're losing money. Every 1 pound spent on Habbo forums, is 1 less pound spent on Habbo. It isn't really the case on this forum though, is it? Half the VIPs don't use Habbo. Habbox dosen't need Habbo to run as they have proved for about two years lol (2004-2007).
Can you not do what Habbo Forum used to do? Just put on the VIP page that users are donating £1.50 and will get a VIP colour of their choice to show that they've donated.
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Originally Posted by Professor-Alex
The whole thing is pathetic.
Sulake are acting like spoilt brats.
I dont mind if I didnt get anything in return I'd still donate £1.50 a month to habbox which I would use on vip.
As jordy said a few pages back, sell the forum, make a new domain HxForum.com and your loaded :P
Can Sierk not just move the website to a dedicated server hosted in Hong-Kong, Sweden or Amsterdam?
We may loose our official status but Sulake can't do jack as we will be hosted offshore.
Leah, they arn't acting like spoilt brats. They ARE spoilt brats.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeahRAWRR
Doesnt that matter? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by ebay
I think it's the credit crunch that has done it.
Sulake are losing money < Habbox are getting money
Sulake wants money < Habbox have more money
It's a credit < VIP situation.
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Originally Posted by Homosexuality
Lol I doubt the credit crunch is affecting it.
If an 11 year old kid, wants credits they get 'em.
This makes me so angry, I can't believe all the money Sulake rake in and now they're kicking the little guys in the teeth. Habbox has been promoting Sulakes virtual world service, Habbo, for years now and I don't see why they should be so pathetic.
We seriously should write to everyone we can, yes we may seem 'small' in relation to Sulake and media giants, but I'm sure with enough up-roar we can get something done. I know this isn't Watchdog's thing, but I do know that Watchdog only require something like 200 complaints in order to consider a slot on their show. This forum easily get's over 500 users online at different times during the day, so if 1 in 3 users did something, we have a chance of humiliating Sulake to hell and back.
We, as Habbos, pay money for credits and provide Sulake with profit. I think that until they stop being so god damn pig greedy and pull their act together, the users of HabboxForum should rebel and not buy credits... even start a riot in Hallway 1 or something.
I don't play Habbo, so as a forum user I will not be told how and how I cannot spend my money. It's my money which I have earned and Sulake have no right telling people how and how they cannot spend their money, they can get ******. It's my ******* money and I'll do whatever I like.
Once you realise that Sulake is, in a way, telling you how to spend your money you'll want to compaign to stop this, why should we let a corporate giant kick a load of teens in the teeth. It's my money and they can bugger off, they have no right telling me how to spend it.
I will fight with anyone and everyone who wants to, because we need to. We can't just let them do this, we need to teach them a lesson. Everyone who doesn't play Habbo doesn't have to abide by Sulakes silly rules.
I'm going to be emailing Habbo, Sulake and a few newspapers this evening and try and get as much coverage as possible. Sulake need to learn they can't just control the internet, and sorry, but whoever said Habbo would be where it was today without fansites is wrong. If it wasn't for a fansite, I would have never discovered Habbo.
I'm going to compile a list of places we can all email/ring.
Powerful but 1000000% right.
I will happily email some people if have have any ideas who to email :)
Only trhing with sulake is they will get tere automated email. Spam them LOL
P.S. Nick i would +Rep you but im not allowed.
Sulake are a bunch of ******* useless fat ugly *****.
They are doing this to get one up on all the fansites, they are now telling you to stop doing VIP services. Next they will tell you to stop doing rare values and then next they will say they don't allow forum's.
If they win this one then they will have you, and they will only get worse. Sulake were hard to work with when I was here, they would send e-mails all the time to properclone or 8freak8 demanding stuff to be removed etc, so now they are clearly 100 times worse.
They say get your means from advertising, yet if you start getting sites such as runescape (example) to advertise then I give you 5 minutes before they set advertising rules
Have you tried contacting your host and send them the emails and see what they say?
I am glad you like and are seriously considering the charity idea. I guess it is a simple suggestion at the moment and would obviously need a lot of development and tailoring to be rellevant, but surely if you suggest this and put it forward to Sulake it is a starting point. Then if they refuse it, clearly they are trying to prevent a site dedicated to charity so their morals can be easily questioned - and this can be very easily done so through the media.
Isn't it up to the actual website to make money etc, they aint' etc charging for habbo features are they, its part of the forum :S
Well it is techncially, but they are using images designed by habbo all over the forum and also contain 'habbo' in the domain which they technically own copyright to...
Oh Poo!
I like the v.i.p
Stupid sulake!!
Just let them take legal action, it would make them a laughing stock if it appeared in the media.
CARWASH!!!!
Thing is people think that we cant make a difference but the reason habbo make money mainly is because of us lot we buy credits to pay their salaries. Without us they would fail so if you unite and stand up together they will have to listen. Im with nick.
jeez this is turning into some revolutionary movement
Good thats what needs to happen, sulake dictating to us its ridiculous.
lol@the above. It is, I believe!
I will still donate to Habbox anyway but it is stupid that Sulake want to control financial aspects of independent sites. Maybe all VIP could be released until the dreadful date of 1st Dec so people can experience amazing vip for a long time as you could make yearly purchases available. Habbox Anniversary VIP and Xmas Vip could be released or "FINAL EVA VIPZ!11" :p
I seriously doubt that would work at all. There is around 500 active users of this forum. Fair enough if we all stick together (which is very unlikely in the first place) then there could be made a difference. However, the proportion of our community is very very little in reference to the number of active habbos. Around 5% if we are lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonder454
Also, even if you tried this not everyone is going to support it - so you can't even class they numbers.
There is no point in starting a whole "STAND UP AND BOYCOT SULAKE" cause it just won't work.
It appears for now anyway, the only way around this is to exploit a loophole - such as using the charity idea.
This inst just for Habbox users this could be everyone every fansite UK or not, talk like that is why Sulake knows they can just tell us what to do because they knwo we wont stand up and will just be walked all over.
Just wondering, what will happen to those people who have already bought VIP? Will they still have features or will they have them taken off them?
Everyones subscriptions will run till they are supposed to. If you by 2 years worth of VIP before we stop selling, that is what you'll get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wootzeh
One question, if we brought say 2 years worth today, if 3 months time if we wanted to change colour would you change the vip colour for us? this is the reason i only buy a month a time becuase i love changing colours every few months lol.
Well, i think this is a stupid idea. Habbox is offical and it should stay this way, i showed my freind this thread and he said Habbox is offical not HabboxForum or HabboxLive, but they are all parts of habbox, im not to sure, but its a stupid idea, because fansites will begin to shrink until there is only 1 or 2 left.
This rule applies to all official and unofficial fansites, HabboxForum being unofficial and still getting told to stop selling VIP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis-Moody!
If they stop you selling it, you can give them some bad press lol. "By stopping us selling VIP, you're stopping a charity getting nearly £200 a year" (Xmas VIP)
Well you go ahead with your one man revolution if thats what you want, but in my opinion it will flop and trying to 'stand up' and have some big virtual war with sulake (a global, multi-millionare company) sounds pretty dire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonder454
Like I say - I see the only way forward being through exploiting possible loop holes.
I can't see how not buying stuff such as credits on Habbo etc will prevent them from closing such fansites as Habbox, that's quite an immature approach to such a problem. Even if we were to unite, such a big company as Habbo wouldn't listen, plus there wouldn't be that many people who would want to participate. Your idea of standing up and not buying credits etc is somewhat absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonder454
Theres like only 2 ways you can work around this.
Make Habboxforum tottally separate from Habbox.com (Have no links from Habbox.com to Habboxforum) which is a bit stupid to do really as both sites go hand in hand.
Or you can instead of having people Buying VIP you can have people giving Donations in which you get free VIP if you Donate as now it's classed as a donation and not a purchase. I dunno if this one would work but i'm sure it's correct.
The domain doesnt matter. If I buy a domain called "HelloHabboIsMyName.com", they cant tell me what to do cos it has HABBO in my domain.
I am sure there is no link on habbox.com to habboxforum? I am sure someone said that. Also it doesnt matter as habboxforum is still a habbo fansite even if its unofficial. People don't seem to understand that main point ...Quote:
Originally Posted by -Danube-
Also I suggested the other idea to Jin last night and he said they are getting something in return, so its not allowed.
Hence the way to do it is to name the usergroup "Habbox Helpers" or something or give it a random name. Habbo don't know who donates, so if they ask about this usergroup, say its habbox helpers =]
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Originally Posted by Ostinato
If the big guns have decided that we're going to comply and stop VIP until things can be sorted officially between us and Sulake, I'm gonna have to resign myself to the fact that that's what's gonna happen. The charity idea I'm still well up for and have some ideas for already, but it won't be in exchange for VIP - just out of the goodness of our pixel hearts ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by Ostinato
Every fansite all together is still less than 0.1% of the Habbo population lol, rebellion and war might sound like a laugh but it's not gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonder454
Something could probably be sorted for that, although I think it's only VIP+ that gets the colour changing feature at the momentQuote:
Originally Posted by :DJ-Small:
True, no-one has copyright over what a domain is allowed to be called, but that's far beyond the point by now lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Soil
That, my friend, is what's known as copyright fraud and corporate irresponsibility :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Soil
If someone gives us money, donates it, or whatever if they get anything in return for that it is not allowed. The most we can do is put their name on the site.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Danube-
Has anyone sent in a email to watchdog / bbc news or any other program that deals with these types of stories?
haha I forgot about the Xmas VIP, Sulake are stealing money from chairty by doing this seeing as all Payments/donations made during the month of December is given to charity.
Sulake may be big but i'm sure if they get enough bad publicity from the media (or maybe even just a little) i'm sure the executives will not be impressed and will take action themselves.
I aint read most ot his thread but if habbo changes to non-habbo stuff removing the habbo skins, images etc then sulake can't do anything? o.0
Just turn HabboxForum into a Teen Discussion Forum rather than a Habbo orienated one? Seems the simple way forward if the donation thing doesn't work.
woah at this debate - I hope Habbo/sulake actually listen..
I joined + Sent the email :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonder454