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small avatars are the most vilest things ever

idk about the forum but the management team obviously has something to do with it, you see other sites with activity close / near enough to habboxforum and their management teams are more organised and they work 100% better. no need for unneccessary departments nd stuff. management team should be;

owner, co-owner
general manager
staff manager
community manager
community manager
forum manager
moderation manager
news manager
radio manager
radio manager
content manager

because atm the management team is TOTALLY unneccesary, you have competitions and events which could be merged into one department, features manager and forum manager could be merged, then moderation manager made, it makes me feel that the management team atm must be useless if you have to hire so many people in the least rude way as possible. one of the community managers would be responsible for big events and the events team, one would be responsible for forum events and the hxhd.. the content manager would be responsible for graphics and content/ coding, the staff manager would be responsible for keeping the staff teams in tip top shape and removing anyone unnecessary, reporting to the gm and owner if a manager is being lazy. seems a much better idea instead of loads of peeps..

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Originally Posted by joshhyy

idk about the forum but the management team obviously has something to do with it, you see other sites with activity close / near enough to habboxforum and their management teams are more organised and they work 100% better. no need for unneccessary departments nd stuff. management team should be;

owner, co-owner
general manager
staff manager
community manager
community manager
forum manager
moderation manager
news manager
radio manager
radio manager
content manager

because atm the management team is TOTALLY unneccesary, you have competitions and events which could be merged into one department, features manager and forum manager could be merged, then moderation manager made, it makes me feel that the management team atm must be useless if you have to hire so many people in the least rude way as possible. one of the community managers would be responsible for big events and the events team, one would be responsible for forum events and the hxhd.. the content manager would be responsible for graphics and content/ coding, the staff manager would be responsible for keeping the staff teams in tip top shape and removing anyone unnecessary, reporting to the gm and owner if a manager is being lazy. seems a much better idea instead of loads of peeps..

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Hi,

I dont see the point in having both a Moderation Manager and a Forum Manager? I agree there should be one features manager not two as I dont think two are required. I dont see Yoshi post much either - maybe he is away, not sure (oh nvm he is, just saw his usertitle). But still, one features manager is enough.

Events department do Habbo events while Competitions do forum competitions.

I think the GM and 3 AGM system is fine at the moment.

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Originally Posted by joshhyy

idk about the forum but the management team obviously has something to do with it, you see other sites with activity close / near enough to habboxforum and their management teams are more organised and they work 100% better. no need for unneccessary departments nd stuff. management team should be;

owner, co-owner
general manager
staff manager
community manager
community manager
forum manager
moderation manager
news manager
radio manager
radio manager
content manager

because atm the management team is TOTALLY unneccesary, you have competitions and events which could be merged into one department, features manager and forum manager could be merged, then moderation manager made, it makes me feel that the management team atm must be useless if you have to hire so many people in the least rude way as possible. one of the community managers would be responsible for big events and the events team, one would be responsible for forum events and the hxhd.. the content manager would be responsible for graphics and content/ coding, the staff manager would be responsible for keeping the staff teams in tip top shape and removing anyone unnecessary, reporting to the gm and owner if a manager is being lazy. seems a much better idea instead of loads of peeps..

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I don't think Habbox's management structure is anything to do with a period of low posts on the forum.

Habbox's Management structure is quite simple and everybody has work to do, no other fansite has as much activity as Habbox (perhaps they may be getting more forum posts at the moment but im talking activity in terms of site hits, forum and habbo here).

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Originally Posted by joshhyy

idk about the forum but the management team obviously has something to do with it, you see other sites with activity close / near enough to habboxforum and their management teams are more organised and they work 100% better. no need for unneccessary departments nd stuff. management team should be;

owner, co-owner
general manager
staff manager
community manager
community manager
forum manager
moderation manager
news manager
radio manager
radio manager
content manager

because atm the management team is TOTALLY unneccesary, you have competitions and events which could be merged into one department, features manager and forum manager could be merged, then moderation manager made, it makes me feel that the management team atm must be useless if you have to hire so many people in the least rude way as possible. one of the community managers would be responsible for big events and the events team, one would be responsible for forum events and the hxhd.. the content manager would be responsible for graphics and content/ coding, the staff manager would be responsible for keeping the staff teams in tip top shape and removing anyone unnecessary, reporting to the gm and owner if a manager is being lazy. seems a much better idea instead of loads of peeps..

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There's nothing wrong with the current Hichary in my opinion. I don't see the benefits to changing it.

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Originally Posted by joshhyy

you have competitions and events which could be merged into one department

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Agree, been covered plenty of times

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Originally Posted by joshhyy

features manager and forum manager could be merged, then moderation manager made

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That would effectively keep the number of managers the same (merging two then creating a new one) and so would be absolutely pointless, especially since as far as I'm aware the FM is moderation manager. Also features I'm guessing is more to do with the site than the forum so it wouldn't be in the best interests of either part of Habbox to have the two in one job. Your suggestion really cuts down on no jobs at all and instead leaves certain departments without proper management whilst merging completely unrelated jobs. Not so useful.

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Agree, been covered plenty of times



That would effectively keep the number of managers the same (merging two then creating a new one) and so would be absolutely pointless, especially since as far as I'm aware the FM is moderation manager. Also features I'm guessing is more to do with the site than the forum so it wouldn't be in the best interests of either part of Habbox to have the two in one job. Your suggestion really cuts down on no jobs at all and instead leaves certain departments without proper management whilst merging completely unrelated jobs. Not so useful.

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The only job i have seen brandon (is it still him?) is the VIP stuff

Oh is that what it is fair play but I like Brandon he's like the senile old man with a cap who you let have a job holding the door open for people in a shop because he's just been here forever and won't know what to do with himself otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Oli

I think the majority of our moderators know how to apply the current rules but I will clarify.

I've not had any problems with pointless posting (until these instances tonight) which means they're clearly doing something right :P

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I think you will find that they have not been interpreting it the old way and it did get way stricter then it used to be but your clarification in the mod forum has helped. Just to clarify myself. 0ff- topic' only used to get edited when it completely veered away from the original subject but spam/pointless posts have always been dealt with. I still think the rule should be clearer in context though as just because something does not always contribute positively to the topic of a thread does not make it pointless as in a dictionary definition because it does make sense but is 'off topic' and I have had members who are confused when getting a pm because of this. This, however, is probably splitting hairs.

i think we should get a shoutbox and it should be limited to people with a certain amount of time here and posts etc

http://i44.tinypic.com/bdtxsn.png

I've always liked shoutboxes :)

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Originally Posted by sex

i think we should get a shoutbox and it should be limited to people with a certain amount of time here and posts etc

http://i44.tinypic.com/bdtxsn.png

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No. Bad idea. Will use up too much server resources thus slow the site down. Secondly it will mean less posts.

since the posts have decreased im sure the resources aren't that high and that can take its place

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Originally Posted by sex

since the posts have decreased im sure the resources aren't that high and that can take its place

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The huge database and traffic is what affects it...

shoutboxes are the worst thing ever

The shoutbox was removed not long ago, was it not? So I doubt it will be back any time soon.

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

It was my understanding (having actually written the rule...) that that was indeed the case. The only difference between the current rule and the one proposed appears to be that under the "new" rule people could start a ridiculous conversation that hasn't followed on from the thread at all and only the first person to mention it would be reprimanded. Say there's a thread about fish fingers, if someone posts up "hi I love hairless cats" this would currently be removed for pointless posting, as would replies to it because they are by default pointless - after all, if that post is pointless it should be removed, and therefore replies to it would look out of the blue themselves. It makes very little sense to change this as far as I can see.

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Originally Posted by Garion

I think a simple clarification of the current pointless posting rule for Moderators would suffice, rather than pointlessly changing the rule altogether.

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These posts I agree with.

Shoutboxes are horrible. This thread is about trying to work out why people are posting less - not giving them more reason not to post. The one on CHF is barely used anyway I don't think? I am sure I saw a thread posted by Skaterchu that pretty much said a lot of members were actually calling for it to be removed but he wasn't going to. I just don't feel the need for one myself. If you're a fan of spam, it would probably effect that forum most... No more pointless spam threads, you'll just 'shout' it instead.

Yeah things like shout boxes and arcades are OKish but they do stop people from posting. Also, Black_Apalachi I can't remember a recent shout box? I know there was one years ago but not recently. Could be wrong though.

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Originally Posted by doherty

Yeah things like shout boxes and arcades are OKish but they do stop people from posting. Also, Black_Apalachi I can't remember a recent shout box? I know there was one years ago but not recently. Could be wrong though.

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We had a shoutbox years ago but it was removed. The most recent thing we had close to it was the chat system which was an abominable waste of money and a total waste of time.

Yeah didn't think I remembered one. LMAO the chat, that was good fun the 5 times it was used and got active be me and ryan (gomme) but yeah, a waste of money for sure.

Who the hell thought the chat would be a good idea?

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Who the hell thought the chat would be a good idea?

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MAD obviously did or maybe he just wanted to buy something for the sake of it.

Maybe the forum is becoming a bit more inactive, but I'm sure making completely pointless threads in almost every sub-section of the forum isn't going to do anything, except create more pointless posts. But if pointless posts and activity go hand in hand and are seen as a good thing, then go ahead and turn every section into a spam section.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Who the hell thought the chat would be a good idea?

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It was back when HxF had more posts than any other forum, had got official status back, had technical people that came on daily as well as making money. Apart from the official status none of those apply any longer.

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Originally Posted by doherty

It was back when HxF had more posts than any other forum, had got official status back, had technical people that came on daily as well as making money. Apart from the official status none of those apply any longer.

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But chat was a bad decision and never used and technical people do come on daily. As far as posts and threads are concerned I do prefer quality as well as Axel but there is no denying it increases activity. Also it was when Habbo stopped fansites being able to sell VIP that it made less money and has nothing to do with who was GM at the time.

I don't get what you're on about, I never said it did. Please stop your personal criticisms of the previous General Manager. What I said was facts. Nothing to do with ---MAD--- like you assumed.

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Originally Posted by Axel

Maybe the forum is becoming a bit more inactive, but I'm sure making completely pointless threads in almost every sub-section of the forum isn't going to do anything, except create more pointless posts. But if pointless posts and activity go hand in hand and are seen as a good thing, then go ahead and turn every section into a spam section.

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I happen to find who has attached and detached earlobes along with who can lick their noses very interesting

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Originally Posted by sex

I happen to find who has attached and detached earlobes along with who can lick their noses very interesting

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LMAO and I think my "what vegetable do you resemble" was great, although it got moved to spam after axel kicked up a fuss

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Originally Posted by doherty

I don't get what you're on about, I never said it did. Please stop your personal criticisms of the previous General Manager. What I said was facts. Nothing to do with ---MAD--- like you assumed.

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Excuse me I was replying to your post and there was no personal criticisms of anybody :S

To re-interate:

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It was back when HxF had more posts than any other forum, had got official status back, had technical people that came on daily as well as making money. Apart from the official status none of those apply any longer

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1. Saurav said that 'Chat' was a bad idea and I agreed saying that Chat was a bad decision because it was never used.
How can you disagree with that?
2. Technical people do come on everyday - you said they didn't.
3. The reason that Habbox or any fansite makes less money is because of Habbo stopping the sale of VIP.

Where are the personal criticisms of anybody and what you said cannot be considered facts as you don't actually know the financial position of Habbox anymore than I do.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

and has nothing to do with who was GM at the time.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

Where are the personal criticisms of anybody and what you said cannot be considered facts as you don't actually know the financial position of Habbox anymore than I do.

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right about there.

also, the 300$ for the chat was profit sierk made with habbox, i was in the conversation with mad and sierk when the decision was made, they both wanted it. it has since been said that the running costs don't cover the server costs, just the other day.

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Originally Posted by doherty

right about there.

also, the 300$ for the chat was profit sierk made with habbox, i was in the conversation with mad and sierk when the decision was made, they both wanted it. it has since been said that the running costs don't cover the server costs, just the other day.

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So exactly what time are you referring to then? MAD was gm then and I was saying that it was nothing to do with whoever was GM. If it has been him when Habbo stopped VIP then the same would happened so there are no personal comments.

Ah, my bad, apologies! Thought you were belittling everything he had done and saying the successes of Habbox I mentioned were nothing to do with the GM. Anyway, it's nice to see that the first page in Spam and Discuss Anything has improved dramatically since this thread. Feedback has been better too, whether that lasts or not, we'll see. Before people say it's spammy threads, I think only one of the influx of threads by myself, Leah and Oli were moved to spam. Rest of them prompted decent conversation.

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Originally Posted by doherty

Ah, my bad, apologies! Thought you were belittling everything he had done and saying the successes of Habbox I mentioned were nothing to do with the GM. Anyway, it's nice to see that the first page in Spam and Discuss Anything has improved dramatically since this thread. Feedback has been better too, whether that lasts or not, we'll see. Before people say it's spammy threads, I think only one of the influx of threads by myself, Leah and Oli were moved to spam. Rest of them prompted decent conversation.

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No, I never had any complaints about him on the technical side at all. Yes the new threads have prompted discussion
but I do think the 'vegatable' one was scraping the barrel somewhat at the end of a hard thread posting day. :P

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Originally Posted by MattGarner

MAD obviously did or maybe he just wanted to buy something for the sake of it.

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I didnt realise the GM had the power to buy such a thing. In all honesty, it was the stupidest decision - whoever approved it. An awful looking chat system which was never promoted was bound to fail. I don't think they did a poll asking if users wanted it either?

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

cannot be considered facts as you don't actually know the financial position of Habbox anymore than I do.

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Today is your lucky day.
Average running cost per month is £300.
Google advertising revenue bring in about £225 per month.
I think donor brings in about £50-60 per month.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

I didnt realise the GM had the power to buy such a thing. In all honesty, it was the stupidest decision - whoever approved it. An awful looking chat system which was never promoted was bound to fail. I don't think they did a poll asking if users wanted it either?



Today is your lucky day.
Average running cost per month is £300.
Google advertising revenue bring in about £225 per month.
I think donor brings in about £50-60 per month.

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It was later expalined by Jake on what happened regarding the chat system.

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Originally Posted by MattGarner

It was later expalined by Jake on what happened regarding the chat system.

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This bit? Anyway, its been scrapped and that's good.

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also, the 300$ for the chat was profit sierk made with habbox, i was in the conversation with mad and sierk when the decision was made, they both wanted it. it has since been said that the running costs don't cover the server costs, just the other day.

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Originally Posted by doherty

shoutboxes are the worst thing ever

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Originally Posted by Garion

Shoutboxes are horrible. This thread is about trying to work out why people are posting less - not giving them more reason not to post. The one on CHF is barely used anyway I don't think? I am sure I saw a thread posted by Skaterchu that pretty much said a lot of members were actually calling for it to be removed but he wasn't going to. I just don't feel the need for one myself. If you're a fan of spam, it would probably effect that forum most... No more pointless spam threads, you'll just 'shout' it instead.

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In agreement with these about shoutboxes.

In comment to the discussion about chat systems going on, you're arguing about the past, this thread is about the future!

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

No, I never had any complaints about him on the technical side at all. Yes the new threads have prompted discussion
but I do think the 'vegatable' one was scraping the barrel somewhat at the end of a hard thread posting day. :P

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LMAO that thread cracks me up, caused so much drama at least 10 different people have said the same thing. I was going to post the fruit equivalent but maybe I'll save that for my next thread posting frenzy :L

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Originally Posted by doherty

LMAO that thread cracks me up, caused so much drama at least 10 different people have said the same thing. I was going to post the fruit equivalent but maybe I'll save that for my next thread posting frenzy :L

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With the same result! :P :D

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Originally Posted by doherty

LMAO and I think my "what vegetable do you resemble" was great, although it got moved to spam after axel kicked up a fuss

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And quite rightly. 'What vegetable do you resemble' is quite obviously a spam thread, and you were pushing it with that thread. You, as well as anyone else with half a brain, know that that thread is not worth anything and you were trying to be funny with it, which is supported by the fact that you were laughing about making the thread the whole time in the spam forum. Just because the forum may be becoming inactive, something that I haven't really noticed considering I rarely visit any other section of the forum apart from spam and anime forums, doesn't mean you spamming it with god awful threads will help anything. Although I haven't really noticed a decrease in activity, it is evident that the quality of posts has decreased dramatically, and you're one of the main culprits I've noticed. You know that you spam as much as I do, so please let's not turn this into another argument.

And I'm not just focusing on you. There are plenty of other cases of stupid threads to increase activity. For example, I barely visit the Runescape section, but last time I did there was at least 10 threads on trivial topics like 'what is your favourite rock to mine' and 'what is your favourite tree to cut', all by the same person. Being an ex-runescape player, I know for a fact that people don't think long and hard about what their favourite rock to mine is, and I feel that again they're all just spam threads, which is backed up by the fact that in each of the threads, a certain member would post 'x is my favourite rock to mine', and then once someone else had posted, he'd post 'oh ye i changed my mind, y is actually my favourite rock to mine', which is just obviously a piss take.