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Originally Posted by Intersocial

This is not directly anyone's fault. I have done a few of these international reports because it's fun to report on things from other hotels, you say that I should take Habbo.com as a priority and I do - but I have to leave news tasks for others, and no-one else (apart from Sam at times) in news explores international Habbo news. I would love to shove every Habbo.com piece of news out there, but then I get whined at for "doing all the news" (to quote CaptainAce).

It's the fact other news reporters are too lazy and just don't care about news, and if no-one else is applying for news there is so little we can do about habbo.com being a priority without a massive rant occurring.

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CaptainAce is correct.

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Yes it has, international usually takes priority and I told you plenty of times.

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I saw this myself, decided to check news out recently out of interest and see, that international articles, such as from the .fr hotel were posted, whilst articles on the .com hotel were ignored.

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Originally Posted by Intersocial

For the people who just want to work in there but not news/content yes. Because if a person were to join content just to do guides, I'd imagine they'd have to do wiki work and site work as well (when v7 is out) which they might not enjoy. Likewise if a person was forced to join news to do guides, they'd might not like the full news writing style and just want to write a guide once in a while.

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So in short you're basically asking to create a brand new department and giving Content and News writers the option to go in there. But they don't have to...

That would just be another non needed department and a complete waste of time.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

And who manages them, Inkwell or Skynus or a new person altogether? This reminds me of the merge.

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Ergh that's not a fair question :( Can't you just have 2 joint assistant managers 'cause I'm 99% sure I've seen this before. I don't see why one should be manager over the other really.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

And who manages them, Inkwell or Skynus or a new person altogether? This reminds me of the merge.

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My thoughts exactly.

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Originally Posted by Intersocial

Ergh that's not a fair question :( Can't you just have 2 joint assistant managers 'cause I'm 99% sure I've seen this before. I don't see why one should be manager over the other really.

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Then wouldn't that be merging departments again? I must be missing something here...

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Originally Posted by Skynus

So in short you're basically asking to create a brand new department and giving Content and News writers the option to go in there. But they don't have to...

That would just be another non needed department and a complete waste of time.

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So you'd force someone to join content just so they could write a guide, and if there wasn't any guides for them to write they'd have to do wiki work which they may not want to do?

I'm sorry but unless you make different roles inside content itself (content writer / guide writer idk not that wording) then that's ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Intersocial

Neither would content when v7 arrives? Wiki/Site pages/Guides would be demanding as well.

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Are you missing the point...

I am talking about news. Take a dictionary and read what it means. It's the manager's problem, if Content does not have enough staff. I would never have applied to news if I had to write stupid guides.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Then wouldn't that be merging departments again? I must be missing something here...

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Why don't you try merging again? I'm sure some people were discussing in content (think @Samanfa;) that she eventually did want to merge and liked it.

In all fairness, I have changed my mind too and think merging isn't a terrible idea if there are specialised roles in the dept. itself.

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Originally Posted by Intersocial

So you'd force someone to join content just so they could write a guide, and if there wasn't any guides for them to write they'd have to do wiki work which they may not want to do?

I'm sorry but unless you make different roles inside content itself (content writer / guide writer idk not that wording) then that's ridiculous.

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yea this is why i'm sorta with the putting it into a new dep of it's own but I still think it's a bit much for a new dep and would suit a sub-dep more.

but if it was moved to content that's my problem cause I wouldn't want to join cause skynus refuses to accept the idea of separated mins, i'd never do wiki work sorry lmao

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@Grig; assuming it did happen you wouldn't have to do them though cause of being a sub-dep within news so you would completely have the option to opt out of it

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Originally Posted by Intersocial

Why don't you try merging again? I'm sure some people were discussing in content (think @Samanfa;) that she eventually did want to merge and liked it.

In all fairness, I have changed my mind too and think merging isn't a terrible idea if there are specialised roles in the dept. itself.

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You've got to be joking... I cannot believe I am even reading this.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

You've got to be joking... I cannot believe I am even reading this.

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Why. If people in this newly merged department are allowed to pick a certain area (news / site-wiki / guides) then I'm failing to see what you are annoyed over.

Or are you pissed at the thought of merging again? If that's it, then that's not my problem and a problem for other users who think the merge still is a silly idea.
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From e5s post I am guessing it is the outrage.

There was outrage last time and it didn't work lol

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Originally Posted by Intersocial

Why don't you try merging again? I'm sure some people were discussing in content (think @Samanfa;) that she eventually did want to merge and liked it.

In all fairness, I have changed my mind too and think merging isn't a terrible idea if there are specialised roles in the dept. itself.

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Don't even suggest merging again tbh, it failed completely last time due to skynus forcing everyone to do the other departments work too. Most of the dep just resigned cause they didn't want to do wiki work (and I was tempted to too for the same reason).

and if u did have just seperate minimums for each bit you might as well not even merge cause it'll just make more cluttered forums and be pointless

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Originally Posted by Intersocial

Why. If people in this newly merged department are allowed to pick a certain area (news / site-wiki / guides) then I'm failing to see what you are annoyed over.

Or are you pissed at the thought of merging again? If that's it, then that's not my problem and a problem for other users who think the merge still is a silly idea.

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The problem is its a waste of time if its just going to fail due to the fact people are unwilling to work together or even do the work in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Intersocial

So you'd force someone to join content just so they could write a guide, and if there wasn't any guides for them to write they'd have to do wiki work which they may not want to do?

I'm sorry but unless you make different roles inside content itself (content writer / guide writer idk not that wording) then that's ridiculous.

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I wouldn't force them, no, it's a simple case of adding to the criteria. If they want to write for Habbox, in news or content, they have to do the whole thing - it's how it goes. You can't just go to HabboxLive to just give out warnings and show feedback, you need to go on air as well. You can't go into the forum department just post, you need give out mod warnings, reminders etc.

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Originally Posted by Inkwell

yea this is why i'm sorta with the putting it into a new dep of it's own but I still think it's a bit much for a new dep and would suit a sub-dep more.

but if it was moved to content that's my problem cause I wouldn't want to join cause skynus refuses to accept the idea of separated mins, i'd never do wiki work sorry lmao

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@Grig; assuming it did happen you wouldn't have to do them though cause of being a sub-dep within news so you would completely have the option to opt out of it

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I'm sorry, what? I'm pretty sure we came to an agreement in that big massive group conversation with @Inseriousity.; so please don't try and pin the blame on me, that is my one pet hate.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

The problem is its a waste of time if its just going to fail due to the fact people are unwilling to work together.

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I know some people dislike each other, but there's no obligation to actually speak to the same people in the whole department. A member working on wiki-site wouldn't have to communicate with a news staff member if they didn't want to :P

If that was the reason for them all resigning last time I am shocked.

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Originally Posted by Skynus

I wouldn't force them, no, it's a simple case of adding to the criteria. If they want to write for Habbox, in news or content, they have to do the whole thing - it's how it goes. You can't just go to HabboxLive to just give out warnings and show feedback, you need to go on air as well. You can't go into the forum department just post, you need give out mod warnings, reminders etc.



I'm sorry, what? I'm pretty sure we came to an agreement in that big massive group conversation with @Inseriousity.; so please don't try and pin the blame on me, that is my one pet hate.

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yea only cause I was basically being in the case of you refusing to do it my way and me being forced to agree to the merge in some way or another......... I didn't really have a choice did I?

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Originally Posted by Inkwell

yea only cause I was basically being in the case of you refusing to do it my way and me being forced to agree to the merge in some way or another......... I didn't really have a choice did I?

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Well yes we don't live in North Korea.

Before this goes any further, let me just say this.

We unmerged in the end because management decided because staff just stuck to their own work and wouldn't work as a merged department (merged meaning they're completely merged, which was the plan) it was completely pointless and may as well just be 2 seperate departments. Am I wrong @Inkwell;? No. Also, I should add, you thought that because that's what I asked you. So please, before you start posting anything about the merge at least get it correct.

You were both as bad as each other tbh.

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

You were both as bad as each other tbh.

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Thank you.

For arguments sake I'd just say put it with the others on content, why take time making a new department. My thoughts anyway.

lets face it guys, even if this happens it probably wont happen for a very long time knowing habbox!!

Wow I missed the last 7 pages of this, but I'm glad people agree with me that the content team should be in charge of content.

Also, just to add any seniors on the Content team should have a knowledge of SPAG similar to news, as I looked back and you noted that as one of the positives Sam :P.

Warren/Hayden, you are missing the whole point of being a department and that is the ability to be able to communicate with each-other, regardless of your role.

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Originally Posted by Grig

Also, just to add any seniors on the Content team should have a knowledge of SPAG similar to news, as I looked back and you noted that as one of the positives Sam :P.

Warren/Hayden, you are missing the whole point of being a department and that is the ability to be able to communicate with each-other, regardless of your role.

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Just on SPAG knowledge alone I believe Content would be more appropriate than News anyway. I know we don't have seniors in Content anymore, but I'm sure @Skynus; would easily sort it if not.

Tbh especially as habbosecrets has decided not to close after all I would now gladly say let content do it if they wish , so that as grig says news can focus on the stuff we currently focus on lmao.

while you all moaned and ******* fr 200 replies habbosecrets has been re-opened after vado has his attention fix for this month!
it still should be looked into tho, but there is n point if they won't be done right away and promoted (which the probably won't)

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Originally Posted by sex

while you all moaned and ******* fr 200 replies habbosecrets has been re-opened after vado has his attention fix for this month!
it still should be looked into tho, but there is n point if they won't be done right away and promoted (which the probably won't)

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I was talking to @Skynus; about it and I think we have an idea of how it can work, just depends when he implements it!!

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Originally Posted by Inkwell

Tbh especially as habbosecrets has decided not to close after all I would now gladly say let content do it if they wish , so that as grig says news can focus on the stuff we currently focus on lmao.

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So you decided to argue your point for absolutely nothing? Or at least because some other sites did it, but now you 'cba'? Nice one, Janice.

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Originally Posted by pasta

I was talking to @Skynus; about it and I think we have an idea of how it can work, just depends when he implements it!!

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Depends how well it works out I guess.

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Originally Posted by Skynus

So you decided to argue your point for absolutely nothing? Or at least because some other sites did it, but now you 'cba'? Nice one, Janice.



Depends how well it works out I guess.

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no the whole point of introducing this was because of habbosecrets closing so we could take their niche lmao. if they aren't closing then there isn't really much point trying to fill a role that's now not actually disapeared

TLDR; so 20 pages.. missed this entire thread. Any hints of what has been going on?

i think u should still do it

Why can't Habbox still do the answers/guides? I was unaware that if a fansite had a 'niche' no other fansite could do it... I'm sure other fansites in the past have done rare values/radios/help desks etc.

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Originally Posted by Marketing

TLDR; so 20 pages.. missed this entire thread. Any hints of what has been going on?

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Habbox want to introduce some content to the site, guides/answers on latest quests/badges etc. But the news department want to do it and not let the content team do the new content.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Why can't Habbox still do the answers/guides? I was unaware that if a fansite had a 'niche' no other fansite could do it... I'm sure other fansites in the past have done rare values/radios/help desks etc.

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Habbox want to introduce some content to the site, guides/answers on latest quests/badges etc. But the news department want to do it and not let the content team do the new content.

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Have I missed a post saying something about the top? From what I am aware that the plan is still going ahead.

Edit: Nevermind, noticed Graham's post.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Habbox want to introduce some content to the site, guides/answers on latest quests/badges etc. But the news department want to do it and not let the content team do the new content.

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Er, wait, really?! This is the same department (along with content) who almost died from high blood pressure when the two departments merged, right? But you are now telling me that the news department is arguing because they want to do the content?

http://www.troll.me/images/jackie-ch...-dont-even.jpg

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Have I missed a post saying something about the top? From what I am aware that the plan is still going ahead.

Edit: Nevermind, noticed Graham's post.

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yeah staying open

http://i.imgur.com/LOUVngU.png

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Originally Posted by e5

yeah staying open

http://i.imgur.com/LOUVngU.png

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Is this the right thread for that, ultra confused at what it is telling? :L

Apart from their being a beautiful pixel brunette...

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Originally Posted by Marketing

Is this the right thread for that, ultra confused at what it is telling? :L

Apart from their being a beautiful pixel brunette...

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ihop22 is a senior editor on habbo secrets :)

http://i.imgur.com/YdIjmne.png

Is that clearer? :P