It was just my opinion. I am basically saying that this guy said its not like Jumanji, but then again its not monopoly and as easy as that is it?
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It was just my opinion. I am basically saying that this guy said its not like Jumanji, but then again its not monopoly and as easy as that is it?
possibly you were doing it subconsciously? i don't know too much about them, but i know that's one of the theories from the skeptics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bef
they work.
i use to do them with my mates on the beach n stuff and people that died at ocean always talked to us.
Cant of cos i freaked and took my hand off it and my mates carried on.Quote:
Originally Posted by asher_
Admittedly i used to push the glass purposly to insult people ;]
Hi there FlyingJesus. Thank you for your well-spelt argument in this debate :)
Yes, I agree with you it could quite possibly have been made up through theories by anyone, just as I could sit here and say I saw Madonna at a Walmart yesterday. However, I doubt historians and archaeologists would make up such a statement just for it to be recorded in a history tablet.
Your body is only a physical reformification of your Spirit, when your Body stops working then your Spirit will move on to the 'Second Life' in hence - People who often believe in Reincarnation will find this as a specific calming nature. When your Spirit moves on, who is to say it doesn't roam the physical world? We are our spirit, if we were our body there would be nothing to justify our movements, we would just quite literally be Skin and Bone, which is where the saying comes from that you may have heard: 'Youre just skin and bone' Yes it is possible that Electrical magnetisiums would send messages to your brain, but if that was a case, then turning on a Light switch would give you an automatic electric shock because you would be bolting 1000's of unwanted electrical volts into your brain at thousands of MPH. Which in some cases it does - That's called Electricution. But yes that's quite a good point you have made.
Yes I do believe in God, However, God does not influence my beliefs in any kind, I haven't made any statements of Heaven or Hell.
You seem to know alot Bliss.
I dont want to get dragged into anything but Bliss how do you know so much and why is your stories so tragic and unrealistic?
Hi there Oakenfold. :)
I suppose I know quite a bit. Everything I know has been from many years of paranormal studies and investigations, some knowledge and personal experience, my stories.. I don't think it's quite fair to call them 'Stories' because I'm not quite writing a book, (not yet anyway haha) I don't think they're unrealistic either, it depends what you believe in as an individual, you may think they sound unrealistic but infact they are completely realistic to paranormal investigators and people who study in that area of intelligence.
If you mean what I said about the Witches being burnt in my Back Garden, and living in my house. I didn't mean recently, don't worry my family aren't witch hunters who go around waving fire-sticks around on horseback chasing 'Witches' out of the Village, however this did take place about 500 years ago and my back garden does, putting modesty aside, consist of 17 Acres and was infact forestation during that time, I know this by looking at maps and historical records of the area. In fact my house is surrounded by a lot of the forestation that did exist during that period. Alot of the house was built in the Georgian era also, It's not all Tudor, but a small area of it is, the rest was built to match the main building.
The Paintings and Table going flying across the room - This was because of the amount of bad risidual energy in the room, the Paintings merely fell from the wall, this couldn't have been lose screws (and no i dont have a screw loose myself haha) because they were attatched to the wall and several fell after it. It is an often occurance in paranormal investigations that a Table will be removed from the ground and thrown, this will be often refferred to as a Poltergheist by scientific termonology.
your knowledge is flawed and you've yet to post any evidence to convince anyone otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bliss
My knowledge is not flawed, my knowledge is proffessional, you may think it's flawed because you have not been in a position where Paranormal investigations or studies have taken place. In the terms of spectroversy, you clearly don't believe something until you see it, and that's completely okay! I was the same in my younger years.
I don't see how I can post evidence on a Paranormal investigation and Study that took place at a private home, if I did have a tape of it (Which I don't as I do not believe it's correct and inpartial to record something and make a mockery of a life-form) then yes I would have posted it on this forum for you all to see for yourselves, however if you look into Paranormal Studies then you too will see that it all makes sense, and is infact not flawed.
So you can provide a notable source to this event? please do, im pretty sure there would be some formal documentation if you managed to persuade a number of MP's scientists, priests and other people to take part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bliss
Dispite the fact its commiting a massive authorty fallasy, and a preist if where talking Christan has just sentanced himself to hell for partakeing in the dark arts. Why an MP would join is also beoned me, and sicentist is a pretty loose term these days.
If you want me to belive this happened, please present some evidence?
not being able to write in english is not uneducated, polish, french, turkish, latin and prettyy much any other lanuage you wish to add are all equaly valid, and in most cases more likley, ejipt was around far longer than any english speaking countarys have ever been? statisticaly, we would probably have about 1% at best able to speak english at all?Quote:
I never said they all speak in alphabetical language, if you read my first post correctly then you would have noticed I said alot of spirits are uneducated depending on the era they are from and the level of their education. I also haven't spoke to 10's of 1000's of spirits.
Studied? how exsactly do you study something none exstented? with no factual, concise or objective information relating to the subject?Quote:
No they did not 'tell me through the board' as you so put it, I have studied this for many years and know exactly what I am talking about, you may be a scientist, or you talk like one at least in most words which I, and many other members of this forum probably can't understand. I have also had to draw in frightened spirits that are trapped in a form of risidual energy.
This engergy is fictional, as are your spirts. There is nothing, at all, to suggest there existance, hence the assumption of it is hence tainted by that.
This isnt a question of spelling, when people feel the need to comit to an ad homen fallsasy, you can usealy tell there unable to defned there claims against your own points. Spelling is an exsample of this.Quote:
I generally suggest you learn how to spell the simplest of words before making a dictatorship to me. All of the investigations that have taken place are entirely proffessional and are not fraudulent. Your theory of 'A rumble in the ground from a soccer pitch to move the glass' is completely invalid and ridiculous. This is completely impossible.
Its then strengthened by the fact your responding to the questions of you "experiments" again, as opposed to any later made points of mine.
Secondly you completely missed the point of my previous exsample. The football exsample was simply an illstraion of group concusness, the fact everyone joins in at the right time, when iniated, people think alike when in proximity due to the simlartys of exspernace in them and are subcousnless reading of behavoral signals.
Now in the ouiga board exsample, there are two points, people touch the glass with the tip of the finger, this allows them to exsert force, aka push, but not pull without looseing contact with the glass, hence its immpossible for any one person to be able to utalise all the letters due to there circular arrangement, when someone accidnlty makes a sight push, for a lean of simple jog of the arm, this tiny bit of momentum is amplifed, since others who feel it immidlty stop resiting and try to follow any motion, so a slight flinch can easly result in motion, multiple peoples contributions to this, much on a subcousless level when done properly, and with a number of people, then allow the glass to move to letters, the letters are at first random, once a letter has been hit, the causal linking we innatly hold causes us to guess and exsepect the next letter, the glass speeds up, a sence is built by what the majorty of the group is exspecting to come next, and hence leaveing the least resistance to.
Hence we build up a cohirent sentnace, if people are scared, it will be something scary, if there happy, it will be somthing happy. Its all controled by the group consuioness.
This is a hypothisis formulated of my own from a small exsperence basis and is largely untested, so holds little wieght prior to any real exspermantion with proper controls and method. This is only what i think happens, im far from the postion in which i could assert this is infact what does happen.
Im not a phycologist after all.
So again, nearly all spirts wouldnt know english, makeing near all inncounters usless and unproductive? this doesnt fit with the success rate claims?Quote:
It is only in the last few hundred years that we have learnt to contact them because that is when Education was put into prospects, cavemen were not educated, therefore they could not commit to things such as Ouija boards, therefore this is also why they will never contact someone through a Ouija board, so that theory of yours is also unjustified and completely ridiculous.
Seconldy, education is not the foundation of language, that was around long before formal education, even in writeing forms, the larger a population the larger its need for effecnsy to utilase highly skilled members in one aria, instead of lesser more general skills in all. Hence we get teaching and form education.
Education does not equal leanring english.
You seem to be unable to grasp the concept of illstraive exsamples? i take it you dont do well with poetry o.0Quote:
We also are not lightbulbs, it's pathetic to make a claim of justifications between a Lightbulb and a Human organism.
The aura of a person is put down to the eltetric field, humans and lighbulbs both have one. If your claiming the sole/spirt is the aura, then a lightbulb must also have a sole/spirt.
That in no ways is makeing a claim that would suggest humans are lighbulbs, only lighbulbs also have soles, which is the claim you indrectly made, and which i was exposeeing as being kinda stupid.
Thin as theres no much off, it, not thin in size, a better would would be scarese, or less dence "/Quote:
Air has a high level of spectroversy in it, Air can be thin when you reach levels of High altitude such as on Mountain peaks hence the reasons for altitude sickness.
Underwater its more due to the fact water is somewhat hevery than air, air is inflating your lungs, air squashers more than water, and are lungs getting squashed aint a good thing.Quote:
Air can also be heavy stopping people from breathing sufficiently, such as deep underground and underwater, hence the reason for air canisters needed to keep the person alive for more than 5 minutes.
Air dencey is little to do with it, although higher graviational forces aint particaly good for us.
Philopshy and science deal with differnt arias, your entering a philosophical aria and im offering information from the knwolage sourse, yet your seemingly obssesed with me being a scientist? your confusieng your disaplins.Quote:
I'm sorry dear, but I think you'll find that my explination is completely likely, we are Spirits, and no Modern Science did not say that this is not real, infact they said it's an extremely high possibility, I have made statements of justification in my texts as you will see if you read them PROPERLY rather than SEMI-SKIMMING them with your eyes. I'm sorry but if you want to be a scientist I think you had better go back to your drawing board and re-think your future out, seriously hard.
No actualy offer some texts, even a single proof that mind and body are sperate or seperable? Descartes's offered 4, and his diddnt stand up? how can you claim to have a justifed belife if you cant offer one? a single logical proof?
Whats pathetic is your abilty to actualy understand such basic princibles, now stop pooring on the ad hominm in an attempt to cover your own ignorance and get back on topic.Quote:
Man is the strongest power in the Universe, and I summence to wonder why the hell you keep making references to things like Lightbulbs and Pink Elephants in referance to the Human life-form and spiritual energy, it's quite pathetic really.
You have NO PROOF OF SPIRTUAL ENGERY.
You have NO PROOF OF A SOLE.
the point was a dunk has just as much proof as you do for pink eliphants (more in fact), than you do for this.
So offer some basic reasoning, or eveidance, or i cant take you seriously.