where have i heard this from

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Originally Posted by Ostinato

I find that quite difficult when your constantly posting crap.

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Oh it's very easy

'Post reply' - Do not click.

I have to say, I have posted more about the issue and gone into more depth than you.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=370167
Above is more proof that it doesn't exist.

Dan mate, I understand entirely the point about how the planet naturally undergoes the process of what we call "global warming", but to say that humans have no effect on it at all is a bit silly surely? Even if we have a relatively small effect, there is an effect caused by our activities and such. I for one don't care that much about it because I don't believe it will significantly affect me in my lifetime and I'm very selfish like that, but surely you can't actually deny that carbon emissions from the way we live our lives has at least some effect on the planet?

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

It's called a 'debate', other people who disagree over Global Warming, I accept that.

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Also to the person who -repped me in saying 'Black Holes aren't proven to exist', I have read it in a science book so it's a scientific fact, so instead of -repping me why don't you actually face up to me and argue your opinion you coward.

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Science is only best guess. So therefore there is no such thing as a fact. No matter what we do, we can only take a best guess from the evidence we recieve, meaning dont belioeve everything you read.

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Originally Posted by Ostinato

I find that quite difficult when your constantly posting crap.

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You make me lol!

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Dan mate, I understand entirely the point about how the planet naturally undergoes the process of what we call "global warming", but to say that humans have no effect on it at all is a bit silly surely? Even if we have a relatively small effect, there is an effect caused by our activities and such. I for one don't care that much about it because I don't believe it will significantly affect me in my lifetime and I'm very selfish like that, but surely you can't actually deny that carbon emissions from the way we live our lives has at least some effect on the planet?

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My point exactly.

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Dan mate, I understand entirely the point about how the planet naturally undergoes the process of what we call "global warming", but to say that humans have no effect on it at all is a bit silly surely? Even if we have a relatively small effect, there is an effect caused by our activities and such. I for one don't care that much about it because I don't believe it will significantly affect me in my lifetime and I'm very selfish like that, but surely you can't actually deny that carbon emissions from the way we live our lives has at least some effect on the planet?

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I believe humanity has a effect on wildlife by cutting down trees and forests but I don't accept the carbon issue.

When we find factorys that were around billions of years ago, then I will believe its us.

But that's not going to happen, people need to face that it's happened before and the tempertures will always change.

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I believe humanity has a effect on wildlife by cutting down trees and forests but I don't accept the carbon issue.

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When we find factorys that were around billions of years ago, then I will believe its us.

But that's not going to happen, people need to face that it's happened before and the tempertures will always change.

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Billions of years ago they may have increased what, fourthfold, but not one hundrethfold like they are now. Exactly since the industrial revolutioon and since carbon emissions were released into the atmosphere, the number has not crept up, but shot up over the charts.

It SERIOUSLY has had an effect since the insustrial revolution.

Maybe back then there may have been more volcanic activity, but we would be able to trace this activity now, and there is no pattern between natural gases being released and the ammount that is spilled into the atmosphere.

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I believe humanity has a effect on wildlife by cutting down trees and forests but I don't accept the carbon issue.

When we find factorys that were around billions of years ago, then I will believe its us.

But that's not going to happen, people need to face that it's happened before and the tempertures will always change.

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You're missing the point, I'm not denying that it's happened before and that it's natural, nor do I believe that isopods made factories, but also I'm not saying that humans are the only (or indeed even the most prominant by far) source of the "problem" of global warming - only that we do in some way affect it.

I agree with you that it's been blown out of proportion and that people worry too much about it, and hence I'm not about to preach about saving the planet or whatever (and at any rate, I don't care), but it's undeniable that we contribute.


as a side note that has no relevance at all: other Dan (Lost), why do your quotes always come up as two separate quotes when it's from one post? Always wondered that :P

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You're missing the point, I'm not denying that it's happened before and that it's natural, nor do I believe that isopods made factories, but also I'm not saying that humans are the only (or indeed even the most prominant by far) source of the "problem" of global warming - only that we do in some way affect it.

I agree with you that it's been blown out of proportion and that people worry too much about it, and hence I'm not about to preach about saving the planet or whatever (and at any rate, I don't care), but it's undeniable that we contribute.


as a side note that has no relevance at all: other Dan (Lost), why do your quotes always come up as two separate quotes when it's from one post? Always wondered that :P

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Took the words right out of my mouth! :P

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Billions of years ago they may have increased what, fourthfold, but not one hundrethfold like they are now. Exactly since the industrial revolutioon and since carbon emissions were released into the atmosphere, the number has not crept up, but shot up over the charts.

It SERIOUSLY has had an effect since the insustrial revolution.

Maybe back then there may have been more volcanic activity, but we would be able to trace this activity now, and there is no pattern between natural gases being released and the ammount that is spilled into the atmosphere.

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http://liveearth.uk.msn.com/green/articles/one_degree.aspx

I laughed when I saw the msn article, absolute crap.

In the 1700's, the water level used to be around 1 metre higher than it was today, so really isn't that the opposite of what they say is happening to the ice caps?

The reason why people think this is because we have built many houses on flood plains, so when it floods and the media say 'this is what is happening because of us', people are fooled, they think it's this Global Warming rubbish but in reality them pieces of land have always flooded.

Also tempertures can change every 10 years, for example you can have a 100 years of adverage temperture 23 C, then for 10 years the adverage turns into 25 C, solar flares and tilt of eart effect the climate.

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You're missing the point, I'm not denying that it's happened before and that it's natural, nor do I believe that isopods made factories, but also I'm not saying that humans are the only (or indeed even the most prominant by far) source of the "problem" of global warming - only that we do in some way affect it.

I agree with you that it's been blown out of proportion and that people worry too much about it, and hence I'm not about to preach about saving the planet or whatever (and at any rate, I don't care), but it's undeniable that we contribute.


as a side note that has no relevance at all: other Dan (Lost), why do your quotes always come up as two separate quotes when it's from one post? Always wondered that :P

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How can we assume that we cause it when it's happened many times before, oh so just because we have factorys and it's changing slightly means it's our fault?, this has happened time and time before and will happen even when we're gone.

Al Gore is another one of these climate idiots, he flys around the world telling us all to stop flying, his house pollutes much more than other houses and now there doing a concert which many people will drive to and it will take lots of Coal and Oil to power the venue.

They are all completley talking through their backsides and I am no supporter of George W Bush, but at least he hasn't been swallowed by all this media scare mongering.

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How can we assume that we cause it when it's happened many times before, oh so just because we have factorys and it's changing slightly means it's our fault?, this has happened time and time before and will happen even when we're gone.

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Again, I don't believe we are the sole - or even a major - cause of it, just that we contribute. Yes it's happened before, yes it will happen again many times before the Earth dies, I'm not trying to deny that at all.