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Originally Posted by Catzsy

This interests me as I would say it takes a great deal more to ban somebody on Habbox than it would there and I know the management review bans and sutobans regularly and many members have been afforded a second chance.

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As far as I could tell from the thread that got linked, the "blacklist" is just their name for the DNHL here rather than anything to do with actual bans.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

As I said before, although you didn't consider it, genuine or valid I believe that Habbox should really capitalise on the Habbo Merge with a lot of staff resources going into it. One thing that I would introduce is probably letting members have pictures of themselves in their avatars. I do think that now we allow them elsewhere on the forum the time has now come. What ideas do you have?

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The merge represents a great opportunity to get a new wave of members in, but we still have (as we did last year when I was making threads to the effect) a problem with retaining them in any number or quality. Pictures in avatars comes up fairly often as a suggestion but as far as I've ever seen it always gets shot down - not just by management but by the general populace.

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Originally Posted by doherty

I don't know who the Super Moderators are any more and I've visited every few days since 2006 so it's not like I'm totally out of touch although my posting has declined.

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Init I'm here most days really (cool kid) and I wouldn't be able to name the mod team at all. Maybe I'm just that good these days, but I think a fair chunk of the blame lies with them not integrating with the community enough.

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Originally Posted by doherty

That's difficult though because you can't really make it mandatory because their task is to do their jobs. I know some of my best RVRs would come on for 10mins per day, post the most accurate reports and get back to trade on Habbo.

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With RVRs that's acceptable I'd say, as they're still doing their job properly in that way. When it comes to community management (ie: not so much site staff) and moderation there really should be more of a presence, as they're meant to be a part of the forum by definition.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

I remember when I joined, I liked it when management / super mods replied to my thread or posts. I also replied to their threads or posts regularly. There are some managers who post regularly and there are some who never post. Till this week, I didn't know Faboosh was the Rare Values manager. I only realised when the resignation announcement was posted.

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I think the problem lies partly in the fact that people have for the past god knows how long been demanding that staff and members be treated with more equality, when in terms of making an actual status of staff - and in particular higher up members of staff - the opposite would be more helpful. There needs to somehow be a balance between them being "one of us" as it were and still being a dominant force that people respect if not like. I'm sure it's not the case with all staff but I think pretty much everyone knows that a lot of community staff (DJs and Help Desk staff in particular) are ignored as being beneath even normal members in many threads they get into, especially ones that tend to require you to have your own opinions, and there's not going to be any easy way to sort out staff-member relations without making paradoxical demands.

Not reading the whole thread, but I think a major key to getting more people signed up is through habbo. On total just trhough HxHD I've got about 10+ people signed up and running on the forum. If we pushed the forum on habbo then it'd be a win win situation!

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

The merge represents a great opportunity to get a new wave of members in, but we still have (as we did last year when I was making threads to the effect) a problem with retaining them in any number or quality. Pictures in avatars comes up fairly often as a suggestion but as far as I've ever seen it always gets shot down - not just by management but by the general populace.

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Well I personally think things have moved on now. There used to be no pictures, then pictures in a thread now pictures on the forum except for an avatar so the reasons given then probably bullying etc etc have gone really. I know some people think they look 'tacky' but most of the other forums/social networking sites have them for teens so it seems to be a normal requirement these days and is expected. We do have a new management team so worth putting forward.

Regarding having pictures of yourself as an avatar I did create feedback poll regarding this to which the majority answered no. It appears that all of the feedback polls have disappeared though so if a significant amount of members seem in favour of this I will create another one to see if opinions have changed.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Like I said before, most Moderators and Super Moderators rarely post. We all know who they are. I really think "Post regularly around the forum" should be added to their job description. If staff don't bother posting, why would the members bother?

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i agree here and even when they post they are so annoying and gay (happy)
it really gets on my nerves, the only ones who dont seem to be doing this is dinasaw, orangessh and dannnzo
which i like because they act like a normal user..

Moderator posting has increased since I've been in Forum Management as it was one of the things that Garion and I saw that needed to be cracked down upon when we took over. I agree that moderators do not post enough, in particular the Super Moderators and will be looking at ways to increase this posting.

A lot of our team are busy with exams at the moment though, so this may explain some absence.

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Originally Posted by doherty

Well you've been away half the time so I don't really expect you to understand. It's funny how you criticise me though when Saurav, Grig, Garion, FlyingJesus and Oli have agreed with me in certain elements. It was actually after a conversation with General Management that I posted this as you'd understand if you read the entirety of the post. Your attitude is very poor. General Management asked me what I'd do to help their decline in posts, I said I was unsure and made this thread to try and generate ideas. I don't have any more spare time on my hands than I have in the last few months so that false accusation is just trying to stir arguments. Same old. Also, just because you disliked ---MAD--- he made Habbox official, improved inter-department working, had a much bigger presence on Habbo etc. I'd say it was at its peak with him at the helm in fact. Don't let personal judgements blur reality.


Someone with sense.


Again, you've never been overly active on the forum and wouldn't understand. Those who have, have agreed with me. Once again, if you'd read the entirety of the thread you would have realised I stated categorically there is nothing fundamentally wrong with Habbox. However, there is a decline in posting. New posts go back an hour sometimes, threads in Spam go back 24 hours sometimes. In my four years at Habbox, that has never happened.

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Your accusation is pretty lame, considering I too have been, especially 2006 onward, always active on the forum, and have worked under each GM and AGM (the smart, and not so smart) since. The incentives to join and attract users when I was apparently incognito for the past six years have been more than lame. Paying $300 for a flash-based chat which a grand total of three people actually used was a horribly unattractive decision. To increase members and forum popularity Garion and Oliver, in conjunction with the events department, should be doing exactly what they've been doing for months. Getting the Habbox name out there on the client, and then keeping new forum users here with the well-kept atmosphere and forum events (like the election) is going to play a key role in drawing in all sorts of new American and Australian users proceeding the merge. If anyone is slacking, in my opinion, it's whoever's responsible (if anyone) for forum coding. There are a lot of useful forum plugins, such as live posts, tapatalk plugin, BBCode in usertitles and interactive javascript content which would enhance the forum, and improve on it significantly. Just the push required to get embedded youtube (which intertwined to the long wait for the vbulletin upgrade, and the skins not being done prior to) was what I'd regard as a hint of laziness which should have happened. Other than something like that I'm not even sure there's much constructive to Habbox's popularity decisions to be made through this thread. Especially since general management (of which two of them have previously managed the forum) are flexible and have a vast experience of knowing what works and what doesn't, and that Oliver has already stated, in what's a satisfactory lengthy post, targets outlining his commitment and plans to increase forum activity.

Garion, Oli, any reply to this please? :) http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...93#post6456993

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

Your accusation is pretty lame, considering I too have been, especially 2006 onward, always active on the forum, and have worked under each GM and AGM (the smart, and not so smart) since. The incentives to join and attract users when I was apparently incognito for the past six years have been more than lame. Paying $300 for a flash-based chat which a grand total of three people actually used was a horribly unattractive decision. To increase members and forum popularity Garion and Oliver, in conjunction with the events department, should be doing exactly what they've been doing for months. Getting the Habbox name out there on the client, and then keeping new forum users here with the well-kept atmosphere and forum events (like the election) is going to play a key role in drawing in all sorts of new American and Australian users proceeding the merge. If anyone is slacking, in my opinion, it's whoever's responsible (if anyone) for forum coding. There are a lot of useful forum plugins, such as live posts, tapatalk plugin, BBCode in usertitles and interactive javascript content which would enhance the forum, and improve on it significantly. Just the push required to get embedded youtube (which intertwined to the long wait for the vbulletin upgrade, and the skins not being done prior to) was what I'd regard as a hint of laziness which should have happened. Other than something like that I'm not even sure there's much constructive to Habbox's popularity decisions to be made through this thread. Especially since general management (of which two of them have previously managed the forum) are flexible and have a vast experience of knowing what works and what doesn't, and that Oliver has already stated, in what's a satisfactory lengthy post, targets outlining his commitment and plans to increase forum activity.

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Live post has been discussed. It would slow the forum down too much.
BBCode in usertitles is not there as members cannot have editable usertitles. Donors can have editable ones while VIP can have HTML ones.
Javascript is likely to cause security flaws. Many skins were done before the vb4 release? Only the old ones were recreated after. It took time to get them up as Jin wasn't on as much as no one else had FTP access. So you are trying to point out flaws which never existed. Sort your own department out first seriously as you seem to have zero clue about the forum.

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Originally Posted by sex

i agree here and even when they post they are so annoying and gay (happy)
it really gets on my nerves, the only ones who dont seem to be doing this is dinasaw, orangessh and dannnzo
which i like because they act like a normal user..

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Well the rest of us will remember that in future. Not.............:P

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Habbox.com is also getting a makeover. Jin posted an announcement regarding it earlier this year stating you will be able to customise the site, move the content boxes around etc, so that should make Habbox unique as no other fansites offer that.
Habbox needs to offer more things rather than just Rare Values as the key thing. I have suggested to Alkaz a few ideas for the site, which he liked so I am hoping they will be implemented if they can get the right people to do it.

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Indeed you did. Hopefully some of them ideas will be implemented as soon as possible or with the new version of Habbox. :)