vegetarian?

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Originally Posted by Commando_Boy

I dont wear or eat anything from a animal
i refuse to take my medication as its fish oils
i refuse to wear my scout woggle because its made from leather
So your wrong there

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Thats not really being a particaly strict vegertarain, for exsample, how strict are you really? have you ever consimed gummy sweets or jelly for exsample? all contain animal products. Maybe you havent, i duno.

Whats you motivation though for being verterain, since thats the part of it thats most questionable and almost always has some major holes in the logic till the existent people there sound brainwashed or just plain ignorant "/

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tbh i prefer vegi burgers
even if i ate meat i would they taste nicer to me for some reason

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Some people like dark chocolate, some people like milk chocolate. I much prefer meat to any vegertaran food ive come across.

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Butchers are always better
most butchers buy it from farmers and there the animals that you see in the feilds and stuff, I agree with that more because the animal is allowed outside. Most places like maccy d's and KFC like that the animals havent even seen sunlight

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I love how MD and KFC just get blamed for everything, the envromentalists blame them for cutting down the rainforists to make room for the cattle herds, and the vergiarans blame em for not letting the cattle outside o.0 The truth is, MD and KFC has NOTHING to do with there cattle. They buy the meat used in there products from a number of exsternal sourses.
Most of which are in far away places such as africa, and farmed in large streatches of land, becuse that there is still much cheeper than battery farms here.

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i never said about cows
i said about bulls
There is no need for bulls,
If a farmer wants his cattle to have calfs he will goto someone with a bull and pay them for the bull to.....

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o.0 actualy bulls are also valuabe, bull leather is often used in Luxury furntiture and clothing. They fetch a good price to.

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Originally Posted by 01101101entor

I love how MD and KFC just get blamed for everything.

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they both disregard animal welfare.

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Originally Posted by asher_

they both disregard animal welfare.

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If you would've read his post you'll see people are contradicting themselves by saying McDonalds cramp the animals together and by saying McDonalds are cutting down the rainforest to make room for cattle grazing.

Also, I (distantly) know someone who's meat is sold to McDonalds.

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Originally Posted by 01101101entor

Thats not really being a particaly strict vegertarain, for exsample, how strict are you really? have you ever consimed gummy sweets or jelly for exsample? all contain animal products. Maybe you havent, i duno.

Whats you motivation though for being verterain, since thats the part of it thats most questionable and almost always has some major holes in the logic till the existent people there sound brainwashed or just plain ignorant "/


Some people like dark chocolate, some people like milk chocolate. I much prefer meat to any vegertaran food ive come across.


I love how MD and KFC just get blamed for everything, the envromentalists blame them for cutting down the rainforists to make room for the cattle herds, and the vergiarans blame em for not letting the cattle outside o.0 The truth is, MD and KFC has NOTHING to do with there cattle. They buy the meat used in there products from a number of exsternal sourses.
Most of which are in far away places such as africa, and farmed in large streatches of land, becuse that there is still much cheeper than battery farms here.


o.0 actualy bulls are also valuabe, bull leather is often used in Luxury furntiture and clothing. They fetch a good price to.

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I dont exactly get what you mean by your first bit
But ye i have thought ooo that might be nice
but then thinking about the pain the animal went thro puts me off it.

Also Maccy d's and KFC could boycott there supplier
By saying they wont buy until its treated better!
Also KFC has lied several times about them treating the chickens nicely
And maccy d's used to be like KFC but has changed for the better so i have less of a problem with them

Not really, I tried to give up meat but it's too hard, the only thing I managed to give up is fish.

Actually, it's not.

Bull calfs are extremely vicious when they are grown up, even if they have been chopped.

And actually, its about 30 months, in compliance with thge governments OTMS - Over Thirty Month Scheme

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Originally Posted by trash

What you've said there is complete crap. When cows are born they have around 12 - 16 months to grow and fatten up - with the exception of some calfs for veal. There would be no point in shooting a healthy bull calf when it's born and it would be a waste of money for the farmer as there would be very little meat on it and it would cost less than what it did for the farmer to articially inseminate the calfs mother.

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Originally Posted by asher_

they both disregard animal welfare.

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Both have no contact with the animals there useing at any stadge in the animals life. They buy them from suppluers after theve been slaugted. So how they disregard animal welfair is beoned me, i wouldnt have though a dead cow would care that much whatever happened to it o.0

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Originally Posted by Commando_Boy

I dont exactly get what you mean by your first bit
But ye i have thought ooo that might be nice
but then thinking about the pain the animal went thro puts me off it.

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Well in most cases the animal dies a quick painless death, so its not that much of an issue in reality, its more the exstreemist claims and exsadurated propergranda that spreads the myths about how bad these animals are treated.

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Also Maccy d's and KFC could boycott there supplier

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And go out of bussness? while a new busness takes there place useing the same supplyers... so no animals would be saved, but mcdonalds would be out of bussness... very construcive o.0

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By saying they wont buy until its treated better!

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there not treated that badly to start with.

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Also KFC has lied several times about them treating the chickens nicely

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KFC has nothing to do with its chickens.

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And maccy d's used to be like KFC but has changed for the better so i have less of a problem with them

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Yet i dont belive they actualy made any changes other than some additional properganda on there part o.0

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Originally Posted by 01101101entor

Both have no contact with the animals there useing at any stadge in the animals life. They buy them from suppluers after theve been slaugted. So how they disregard animal welfair is beoned me, i wouldnt have though a dead cow would care that much whatever happened to it o.0


Well in most cases the animal dies a quick painless death, so its not that much of an issue in reality, its more the exstreemist claims and exsadurated propergranda that spreads the myths about how bad these animals are treated.


And go out of bussness? while a new busness takes there place useing the same supplyers... so no animals would be saved, but mcdonalds would be out of bussness... very construcive o.0

there not treated that badly to start with.
KFC has nothing to do with its chickens.

Yet i dont belive they actualy made any changes other than some additional properganda on there part o.0

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How will it go out of bussness, maccy d's did it and they havent gone out of bussness

And when i said that i ment
KFC said its suppliers

And mcdonalds did make changes i visted a place where they bought the meat before and after and it had changed

And i have been to KFC places and seen the real thing
and it isnt nice
i can show you pics that have been took by my mates and stuff to poove to you that it isnt propperganda or anything like that its what i saw

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Originally Posted by Commando_Boy

How will it go out of bussness, maccy d's did it and they havent gone out of bussness

And when i said that i ment
KFC said its suppliers

And mcdonalds did make changes i visted a place where they bought the meat before and after and it had changed

And i have been to KFC places and seen the real thing
and it isnt nice
i can show you pics that have been took by my mates and stuff to poove to you that it isnt propperganda or anything like that its what i saw

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If it means that much to you, then why not buy organic meat and dairy? The animals die quickly and painlessly "/ However, typing that, you can get non-organic meat which comes from animals which were killed quickly and painlessly. So really, you're just looking at a small picture from a terrible fast-food outlet...

Nope, Cumbria is built upon farming and I wouldn't be supporting any of my relatives or freinds if I decided agasin't it, plus meat is 1337.