Iraqi Flag removed and replaced with a interim Flag..

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

The Labour party promised us a vote, they denied it, as her majestys opposition they have a duty to oppose it and rightly should. Personally I think David Cameron is a tossbag so I know your trying to offended me but I agree with you, he's another Blair. The Pound is stronger than the Euro and Dollar by the way.

Yeah I do, what do you read, the sun :rolleyes:

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Yeah I agree Gordon Brown has waited all these years for the top job and he gets it and well.. I dunno what to say really it's like you're parents coming home after trusting you to look after the house and it's burnt down.. to sum Gordon Brown's efforts up erm I don't know why but the word disaster keeps coming to mind.

Concerning the flag ... well if they changed the union jack I'd be mad as I'm a very patriotic person and am proud to be british I guess the iraqis are feeling the same way.

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Originally Posted by Frodo13.

The majority of England may want right-wing news, but the majority of Britain doesn't. :rolleyes:

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Then read another Newspaper, Scotland seem to hate us so much surely they have their own papers by now?

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Originally Posted by PaintYourTarget

Since when? Tbh, in my little, Middle Class, Middle England life, I have barely heard anyone who's strongly against the war. Infact, the percentage of people I talk to are sick of people constantly bashing the Government and just want news.
I'd much rather pick up my newspaper and read of a success in Afghanistan or Iraq, but unfortunately these get relegated to a short paragraph on page 2 and the rest is dedicated to whatever scandals and whatever is happening.

Watch any political satire on the Tv - Mock the Week, Have I Got News For You? - and even some of the older ones - Whose Line Is It Anyway? - and they will all bash Daily Mail and Guardian readers. They insult them with a passion.

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Scandels have always been top of the news no matter what Government is in, if we want to talk biased then I could say i'm fed up of the left wing BBC. Yeha I do watch them both and unlike some people on here, I can take insults without going 'OMG UR A LIER -REPP'

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Originally Posted by Jordy

The pound is a hell of a lot strong than the Euro, and considerably more than the Dollar. If he wishes to express his conservative views then so be it, if you want to express socialist views go ahead, I'll listen, I just won't agree. I wouldn't make assumptions about the next election yet, it's a while ahead and it will only be called when the Tories are in trouble and Labour are doing well.

It was mostly a Blair thing being influenced by the American's, as you can see Brown isn't pro-American and it isn't a Tory thing either. It is true the Conservatives agreed to the War in Iraq too, there was full support by the Conservatives and Labour for the second Gulf war, clearly the Tories aren't perfect and do too make mistakes.

You have no evidence the Tories won't do what they say when they come to power, they haven't done that much in the past, unlike the Labour who promised a referendum on any new EU Constituencies, but says we simply don't need one... However it looks like after all we could get one due to a large amount of Labour MPs rebelling, it'll most probably take months and then our stupid public would vote for it anyway. If the public is silly enough to vote for Labour, then they could be silly enough to vote for this to go ahead.

Judging by his intellect he's probably more a Star or Daily Sport reader, The Sun would be considered a challenging read.

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Thank you :)

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Originally Posted by [ALEX]

so we get to vote who runs our newspapers yeah? er - no.

to be a democracy, the public need to know both sides of the story so the public can make an informed decision, right?

have you ever watched Euronews, it's so unbiased (Except pro-EU) it's untrue.

ps. Daily Sport ftw.

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It wouldn't be a democracy if the state decided to buy up the newspapers now would it? Anyway when buying a newspaper it is like a democracy. You have 3 news papers facing you, Daily Mail, Sun and Star, you pick whichever you think prints the best news.

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Originally Posted by Dan2nd

well if they changed the union jack I'd be mad as I'm a very patriotic person and am proud to be british I guess the iraqis are feeling the same way.

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Did you hear on the news a few months ago they're thinking of making the majority of the Union jack green or putting a dragon across the front of it as Wales feels excluded from the flag. It's such a silly suggestion and would wreck Britishness. Besides what do the Welsh ever do for us? If they want to come on our flag, they have to earn their place on it! :P

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Did you hear on the news a few months ago they're thinking of making the majority of the Union jack green or putting a dragon across the front of it as Wales feels excluded from the flag. It's such a silly suggestion and would wreck Britishness. Besides what do the Welsh ever do for us? If they want to come on our flag, they have to earn their place on it! :P

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Well obviously they've never been taught that blue and green should never be seen. Furthermore the Welsh flag has red and white on it, as does the union jack =)

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Did you hear on the news a few months ago they're thinking of making the majority of the Union jack green or putting a dragon across the front of it as Wales feels excluded from the flag. It's such a silly suggestion and would wreck Britishness. Besides what do the Welsh ever do for us? If they want to come on our flag, they have to earn their place on it! :P

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urrg the welsh we don't like them and they don't like us :eusa_hand :P
ha ha only joking i don't want to cause an international inccident :rolleyes:

It's just the princible really I doubt the Iraqis are upset because Saddam put the stars on the flag or w.e like Jordy said if they put a Dragon on the union Jack i'd actually want to punch the queen it's because it's the nations flag I don't know how to explain it , when i see it I'm like 'yup I'm british' and smile I mean look at the americans and their flag they are worse than us british they are sooo passionate .. yeah thats what I think its the Iraqis are passonate about Iraq and that flag represents that passion and their country!

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Then read another Newspaper, Scotland seem to hate us so much surely they have their own papers by now?



Scandels have always been top of the news no matter what Government is in, if we want to talk biased then I could say i'm fed up of the left wing BBC. Yeha I do watch them both and unlike some people on here, I can take insults without going 'OMG UR A LIER -REPP'



Thank you :)



It wouldn't be a democracy if the state decided to buy up the newspapers now would it? Anyway when buying a newspaper it is like a democracy. You have 3 news papers facing you, Daily Mail, Sun and Star, you pick whichever you think prints the best news.

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that's what i'm worried about, many of these newspapers aren't independant of each other, owned in groups, so infact, they can all print the same news from the same slant, right?

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Originally Posted by Dan2nd

urrg the welsh we don't like them and they don't like us :eusa_hand :P
ha ha only joking i don't want to cause an international inccident :rolleyes:

It's just the princible really I doubt the Iraqis are upset because Saddam put the stars on the flag or w.e like Jordy said if they put a Dragon on the union Jack i'd actually want to punch the queen it's because it's the nations flag I don't know how to explain it , when i see it I'm like 'yup I'm british' and smile I mean look at the americans and their flag they are worse than us british they are sooo passionate .. yeah thats what I think its the Iraqis are passonate about Iraq and that flag represents that passion and their country!

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Stars are different from Colours, them three stars were the symbols of the Ba'ath Party and thats what they are upset about.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Stars are different from Colours, them three stars were the symbols of the Ba'ath Party and thats what they are upset about.

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What do those colours represent though? our countries !

I guess I see where you're coming from though!

The flag change is just about patrionism in my opinion. We would have the same reaction if our flag got changed. If Iraq loved Saddam, we wouldn't of seen this:

http://www.phonebookoftheworld.com/i...dam-statue.jpg

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Originally Posted by Frodo13.

The flag change is just about patrionism in my opinion. We would have the same reaction if our flag got changed. If Iraq loved Saddam, we wouldn't of seen this:

http://www.phonebookoftheworld.com/i...dam-statue.jpg

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Just because they where happy doesn't mean all Iraq was, lets be realistic here? I bet in all the people there, there isn't one sunni.

There is no evidence suggesting what happened when the statue was brought down was the reaction the majority of Iraqis had..