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Originally Posted by Mentor

That and somewhere in the order 80% the NHS... A good chunk of university level lecturing positions and you know, other unimportant and low level jobs like that...

@-:Undertaker:- if your against such groups, why not aim to disband whats there, instead of aiming to create more?

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I am actually not against any of them, i'm against them whilst other groups such as the BNP are labelled racist. I believe they should all exist, but should not be funded by the state/the state should not label certain groups racist, while funding others.

Allowing all of them is democracy.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I am actually not against any of them, i'm against them whilst other groups such as the BNP are labelled racist. I believe they should all exist, but should not be funded by the state/the state should not label certain groups racist, while funding others.

Allowing all of them is democracy.

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Sort of like the government's being a hypocrite?

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Originally Posted by .Sarcastix.

Sort of like the government's being a hypocrite?

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Indeed it is, it labels the BNP racist for being for white people whilst funding gay groups, black groups and so forth, the Police especially should have neither as they are supposed to have no association with such groups.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Indeed it is, it labels the BNP racist for being for white people whilst funding gay groups, black groups and so forth, the Police especially should have neither as they are supposed to have no association with such groups.

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Then again, you don't see many gay groups or black groups running in elections to control the country, maybe supporting, but not running. Also you can get supporters in such groups who aren't gay or black etc.

Not saying your wrong or anything, just saying there may be other reasons why their funded.

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Originally Posted by Mentor

That and somewhere in the order 80% the NHS... A good chunk of university level lecturing positions and you know, other unimportant and low level jobs like that...

@-:Undertaker:- if your against such groups, why not aim to disband whats there, instead of aiming to create more?

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If you could find the link to that then i'll believe it. If it is true the only reason is because it proes the theory of British citizens are becoming a minority in our own country.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I am actually not against any of them, i'm against them whilst other groups such as the BNP are labelled racist. I believe they should all exist, but should not be funded by the state/the state should not label certain groups racist, while funding others.

Allowing all of them is democracy.

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But if you look at what the BNP are out to achieve, and what these other groups are out to achieve, then it is clear why the majority happily allow these other groups to exist.

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Originally Posted by iAdam

If you could find the link to that then i'll believe it. If it is true the only reason is because it proes the theory of British citizens are becoming a minority in our own country.

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Nevertheless, our country relies heavily on foreign workers. Without them, there will be many job shortages.

I agree that something should be done about immigration - perhaps like what they do in Australia. But I do not agree with the extreme policies of the BNP and I don't think they are the answer to all our problems. If anything, they will create more problems.

So hang on, because you dont agree with what the BNP are aiming to achieve but many people do, you think it should be possibly banned? - why are people not calling for communist and socialist groups to be banned aswell as they are equally dangerous, if not more judging from history.

I have said before, the other groups dont need to exist and certainly should not be funded by the government, the police should not be associated with any of these groups and should be kept neutral. Gay groups for example do have an aim for gay rights, such as gay marriage and other policies so they do have a political stance, and many people do not agree with gay marriage - therefore the police are supporting political causes, whether you think these causes are right or wrong, the police should still not be supporting these groups.

The thing that angers me most, and the rest of the country is how politicians, especially Labour call the BNP racist and say to people not to vote for the BNP yet at the same time Labour are the ones funding all of these other groups which are creating an apartheid system in which the BNP can only gain from.

An end to state groups please, if they can fund themselves then great, if not then they should close. That is democracy.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

So hang on, because you dont agree with what the BNP are aiming to achieve but many people do, you think it should be possibly banned? - why are people not calling for communist and socialist groups to be banned aswell as they are equally dangerous, if not more judging from history.

I have said before, the other groups dont need to exist and certainly should not be funded by the government, the police should not be associated with any of these groups and should be kept neutral. Gay groups for example do have an aim for gay rights, such as gay marriage and other policies so they do have a political stance, and many people do not agree with gay marriage - therefore the police are supporting political causes, whether you think these causes are right or wrong, the police should still not be supporting these groups.

The thing that angers me most, and the rest of the country is how politicians, especially Labour call the BNP racist and say to people not to vote for the BNP yet at the same time Labour are the ones funding all of these other groups which are creating an apartheid system in which the BNP can only gain from.

An end to state groups please, if they can fund themselves then great, if not then they should close. That is democracy.

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No, I don't think they should be banned, I never said that. This is a thread on the BNP hence why the focus is on them and not other extreme parties.

I can't see how gay groups and black associations etcetera can be compared on the same level as the BNP. They aren't out to harm anyone else or get rid of people. Like I said before (although you disagreed with it), the other groups exist because it is all about history and the present. People can't just get over what has happened, and what abuse still happens to gay and black people. British and white people were (and are) not discriminated against and abused in the same way they were (and are).

I dont think its just Labour who label the BNP racist as every single party in the UK seems to as well. Whats more their the only party in the country who do not allow non white members to join which makes them a discriminative body of people.

Also you say the government funds gay groups so I want you to do some research and post on here proving this point with links, quotes etc which prove this is a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

You mean like we have a Black Police Officers Association?

& do not say oh they accept white people aswell, because under equality laws both the British National Party and the BPOA have to accept people regardless of colour.

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Dan. How many times have you used that argument on here?
To say that a Political party that excludes ethnic minorities is the same is naive to say the least. I do like reading your posts but you seem to make the same points over and over again, lately. There is nothing defendable about the BNP unless somebody happens to be a facist then its the right party for them I guess.